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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2089.0. "Generic `How Old Is This Guitar' Note" by BTOVT::BAGDY_M (Hey Mr. Saddam, can you say `BOOM'?) Tue Jan 22 1991 12:17

        Hmmm.   .  .since everyone is dating something in here, I was
        wondering if someone  could  help  me  date  the Guild I just
        purchased ?  
        
        Specs: 
                Model - S300-D
                S/N   - 195729
                        Two double coil pickups. 
                        Two Volume pots
                        Two Tone (there's that word again) pots
                        Single three way (LP style) pickup switch
                        Phase shift 

        Any help would be appreciated.  I'm basically just curious as
        to its vintage.
        
        Matt
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2089.11978ICS::BUCKLEYRollercoasters are more fun than war!Tue Jan 22 1991 12:222
    I would put that baby in the 1978-1980 timeframe dude.  However, I bet
    it's closer to 1978!
2089.2It was a very good yearMILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetSun Jan 27 1991 02:419
    According to the book "American Guitars" by Tom Wheeler, your Guild
    was made in 1979. 
    
    Serial numbers 195068 - 211877 were all ade during 19799.
    
    Enjoy !
    
    Mark
    
2089.3Rocket electric guitar ???ROULET::FANARAMon Mar 09 1992 21:058
    
    I found an old guitar in my attic called a Rocket made by it says 
    harmony...has anyone ever heard of this type of guitar. It's 6 strings
    and seems to be in excellent shape.  Any help would be appreciated.
    
    
    Thanks
    Matt
2089.4KDX200::COOPERStep UP to the RACK !Mon Mar 09 1992 22:195
    Harmony was made for/by Montgomery Ward me thinks...  I'd heard stories
    of Harmony's and Silvertones being worth bundles of bucks.  Silvertone
    is the Sears Roebuck equivelent to the Harmony.
    
    jc
2089.5HarmonyRGB::ROSTThe Legend Lives On: Jah RostafariTue Mar 10 1992 09:3221
    Re: .3, .4
    
    .4 isn't quite right.  Harmony sold their guitars through regular
    dealers (dunno about Monkey Wards, never had 'em in CT where I grew
    up).  Silvertones were indeed guitars sold by Sears, most were made for
    them by Danelectro, some apparently by Harmony (likely the acoustics)!  
    
    Harmonys are indeed sort of "cheap" guitars, but the Rocket is a decent
    instrument, if not exactly up to the quality standards of a Gibson. The
    company made a full ine of guitars, including the world's largest ever
    (there's a famous shot of Johnny Winter playing it, it's about ten feet
    long!), banjos, mandolins (even *electric* mandolins!) and amplifiers.
    
    Harmony sort of died in the mid seventies but the name at least has
    been revived for super-cheap imported guitars (the type you see in dept.
    stores for $79).
    
    For older styles (rockabilly, blues, etc.) the Rocket is certainly an
    "authentic" axe.
    
    							Brian
2089.6I used to play a HarmonyGANTRY::ALLBERYJimTue Mar 10 1992 11:0915
    Harmony did make guitars for Montgomery Wards, but they were marketed
    under Wards' "Airline" brand.  Harmony also made guitars for Sears
    under the "Silvertone" badge (although the most "famous" Silvertones
    were made by Danelectro).   At one point in time, Harmony was (in
    terms of units shipped) the largest manufacturer of guitars in the
    world.
    
    As a cost cutting attempt in the 1960's, Harmony contracted factories
    in Japan to build instruments for them.  Within a few years, Japanese
    companies began marketing their own instruments, and the increased
    competion was a contributing factor to the decline of Harmony.  The
    company was bought out, and the brandname is today used on instruments
    manufactured in the orient (like Washburn, Kay and Saga).
    
    Jim
2089.7AirlinesSMURF::BENNETTWhat goes down the stairs alone or in pairs?Tue Mar 10 1992 12:223
	And of course not all of the Airline guitars sold by Gummy
	Wards were made by Harmony. Some of them are rebadged Nationals....
2089.8Made in the U.S.AROULET::FANARATue Mar 10 1992 18:569
    
    
    The Harmony Rocket Guitar that I have was given to me as a present
    about 20 years ago.  It's in great shape and sounds pretty decent
    and mine does say on it made in the U.S.A.
    
    
    
    Matt
2089.9Help on Acoustic makeUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaTue Jul 30 1996 10:5119
    I need help identifying an old acoustic I picked up.
    
    It has an old sunburst finish, "steel reinforced neck" written on the
    back of the headstock, 2 "F" holes instead of the one round sound hole,
    a floating bridge with adjuster for the bridge height.
    
    There are two screw holes at the top of the headstock which seems to
    indicate there was probably a metal name plate on it, which is now
    missing.
    
    There are two ink stamps inside the body, one reads  "L 3002", and there
    is one on the other side, hard to read but looks like it may be "N-2".
    
    I am wondering who made this guitar and how old it is.  I also need
    info on where to place the floating bridge, isn;t it suppose to be
    placed at a certain point such that one of the frets is half way
    between the top of the neck and the bridge itself?
    
    Thanks, Mark
2089.10Check out "Kay"POWDML::MAY_BTue Jul 30 1996 11:2513
    I would guess that you may have a Kay.  They used to come with a metal
    (tin in think) stamped name plate that would be nailed on.  Has it got
    a flat finish??  Is the body plywood?? 
    
    
    There are many books that are normally sold in music stores that could
    help you identify it.
    
    
    Good luck
    Bruce 
    
    
2089.11Bridge placementGANTRY::ALLBERYJimTue Jul 30 1996 12:399
    I can't help you on the make, but the 12th fret is the halfway point
    between the bridge and the nut.  Use that for an approximation.  You
    can then compare the pitches of the harmonic at the 12th fret with the
    fretted note.  If the fretted note is higher in pitch, you need to move
    the bridge back (away from the neck); if the fretted note is lower, you
    should move the bridge forward. 
    
    You say it has f-holes "instead" of a round soundhole... is it an archtop
    or a flattop? 
2089.12more infoUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaTue Jul 30 1996 13:165
    Will have to look again but I do not think it is plywood body.
    
    Can you explain the difference between archtop and flattop?
    
    Thanks for the scoop on the bridge placement.  Mark
2089.13SMURF::PBECKPaul BeckTue Jul 30 1996 14:163
    Flattop: the soundboard of the guitar is flat. Archtop: the
    soundboard is arched (carved). Acoustic jazz guitars tend to be
    archtops.
2089.14archtopUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaWed Jul 31 1996 10:183
    It appears to be an archtop.  Reminds me of a violin shape.
    
    - Mark