Conference napalm::guitar

    DON"T assume a Hartke 2x10 + 15s will make your rig sound like a Hartke
    4x10.  There's something magic about the 4x10 combination.
    
    Also, more confusion.  Before you spend any money, try the SWR 4x10
    (EUW has em).  The speakers aren't aluminum, and they may a bit more
    roadworthy.  To my ears, the SWR sounds better.

                      
    I have a mate who swears blind that his piddly Fender 85watt combo with
    its single 12" speaker blows away my Laney Stack in both volume and 
    sound clarity.
                      
    He's annoying me!!

    
    Dan, when I talk to bass players about tone, I always tell them about
    the GREAT tone you get from the Boogie.  I wouldn't change a thing!
    
    Kevin

                    
    <<I have a mate who swears blind that his piddly Fender 85watt combo with
    <<its single 12" speaker blows away my Laney Stack in both volume and 
    <<sound clarity.
    <<                  
    <<He's annoying me!!

I agree...

If I was you,,,,,, I'd kill him...

    RE: .2!
    
    Yep - I know what you mean - there's this monster guitar player I've
    known for a while (too long), goes by the name of Lightn' Licks - and
    it took me two years to convince him he needed to add a cab to his 1X12
    rig.  Now we gotta work on the Marshall stack concept!! 
    
    And Kevin: Thanx for the kind words on my rig.  There's always that
    "other" sound that seems better - you know?  But with the prices of
    Hartke and SWR stuff - I will probably just dream on!  No harm in
    looking though - hmmmmmm - seems that's what I said when I started
    looking at Boogies?
    
    This may sound strange but it's true - for you bass players that have
    cable in your homes - check out the Weather Channel and listen to the
    background music - specifically the bass work - there's some really
    outstanding sounds coming from behind the scenes!
    
    Anyway .... Thanx

    Dan,
    
    Boogie makes 2x10 cabs (and possibly even 4x10). Before straying from
    the all-Boogie gear, I would demo a Boogie 2x10 cab in combination
    with your present rig. With your bass head, you may be able to drive
    it without adding a crossover, or additional power. Then again, you 
    may want to drive the 2x10 with your existing head, and get another
    boogie power amp to drive the 2x15 cab. The possibilities are endless.
    At least Boogie makes road-ready cabs that would match your' present
    rig. I believe they offer a 2x10 with a "bullet horn".
    
    Doesn't your' head have a built-in crossover ?
    
    For guitar rigs, Boogie makes 1x12 extention cabs, in either half-open
    back, or Thiele closed back cabs. The prices are very reasonable, too.
    
    
    I'm not even a bass player, but I've been looking at Jazz Basses. 
    
    Mark
    

    RE: -1
    
    Hi Mark:  
    
    The Boogies 400 doesn't have a built in crossover - however it does
    have the two 4 ohm and two 8 ohm speaker outputs.  If the 2X10 cabs
    were full range (I'm almost sure they are), then I could simply plug
    one in.
    
    The sound however is more the issue here, for me at least.  I've demoed
    the Hartke cabs and they do have "that" funk sound that I seem to be
    drawn to.  
    
    I'm thinking that maybe my ultimate rig would contain a 1X15 Boogie cab
    coupled with a 4X10 Hartke cab both being driven (without a crossover)
    from my current Boogie head.
    
    Hey - I got this chainsaw!  Maybe I could just cut my 2X15 in half???
    
    Thanx  ...... Dan

    Yo, Boogie also has a cab, same size as your 2-15 that has 1-15, 1-10
    then a 5" or some such and a bullet tweeter....go down to Daddy's and
    listen to one.
    	
    						Brian

    
    
    re: Hartke Cabs
    
    	Admit it Dan, you just wanna look cool in front of some of them
    aluminum cone speakers! :-) :-) :-)
    
    -Tom
    (A 1-15 210 man)
    

Dan,

Try out the Boogie 2x10 before you pass judgement that it won't do what 
you want.  The bass player in one of my bands has a pair of cabinets with
1x15 in each and one also has a 10 in it as well.  That one 10 really adds
a lot of brightness to the sound, gives it a funky kind of sound kind of 
like I think you're probably looking for.  

Give it a try and see if it does what you want.  If it does, you could 
probably save some money over the Hartke ($$$).

FWIW...

Greg

    RE: .9
    
    OK OK - I admit it!  I just want some attention - I mean - it's just
    not fair that these monster lead players get all the scrutiny - right?
    Heck - my lead player has women falling dead at his feet all night long
    - it's a terrible sight and gesh what a mess to clean up!  But he
    handles it with grace and pinash!
    
    RIGHT!
    
    Hey - maybe it's because he plays a pink guitar - - yeah that's it - 
    where can I get me a pink bass!
    
    D.

    I don't leave home without my bi-amp bass set-up.  It has a wide
    range and lots of response, and can be tuned to each place we play.
    The variable electronic crossover can really expand your sound,
    without it I have to reduce the low end to avoid cracking up my
    2 10s.  Through trial and error, I have settled on SEALED cabinets;
    yes, there is a lot vibration to control, but it's been worth it.
    
    Good luck in your pursuit of the purrfect sound...
    

    re:- Biamping.....yep the only way to go!!!!!!!You can thunder down
    buildings and still have that breakin'-bones snap in your sound....
    It also cleans up your sound immeasureably...AND keeps crazy
    guitarists at bay!!!!!!!   =BvQ
    -BiLdO 

    
    
    	re: Biamping (well crossovers actually)
    
    	Any recommendations for a post-power amp crossover?
    
    	I need a crossover for a 2x10 cab for bass, of course.. :-).

    Sorry ; no not really...the impression I get is that they soak up
    too much of your power...I know peavey makes a few....the one used
    in the 1x18+2x10 cab is crossed over at 500 hz....a little high
    compared to what I would biamp at but I think that's as low a frequency
    as a passive system will go without introducing too much loss .
    
    
    
    -Bill *8^Q>

    Active crossovers only work with line-level signals. 
    
    Passive crossovers work on power amp output signals. They are usually
    mounted right inside the speaker cab. There used to be a company called
    "Speakerlab" that sold passive crossover kits. They provide all the
    components, and a set of instructions and you do the soldering and 
    assembly. I believe you can get these from You-Do-it (aka You-blew-it)
    electronics in Needham.
    
    Active crossovers are preferred because there is literally no power
    loss when using them which gives you maximum efficiency. The downside
    is the cost of buying the x-over and the additional amplifier channels
    needed to drive the low and high freq. drivers.
    
    Mark