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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1804.0. "acoustic cutaway opinions?" by ACESMK::RUDNICK () Fri Apr 27 1990 18:14

    Hey - 
    
    Do you guys have any opinions on cutaway acoustics??  The deal is this:
    I have a Guild D35, full bodied, tastes and sounds full and great.
    Whenever I need to amplify myself I use a Dean Markley Pro-Mag which
    does well enough for what it is and for what I've needed it for up till
    now.  Soon in the future I'll be getting out some more with the guitar
    and having an acoustic/electric would be real handy.  I was just
    looking at the Takamine LTD 90.  Beautiful Hawaiin Koa Wood body, 
    parametric equalizer and also a cutaway.
    
    I guess the real question is this... The TAK sounds amazing plugged
    into an amp and with those parametric sliders you can do anything you
    want.  But... ahh, there's always a but, the expected play-out time
    would be 1-2 times a week on a busy week maximum which means that the
    kitchen is still the place where I'll be playing the most.  I felt that
    with the cutaway I was missing out on that full bodied Guild sound.  
    
    So I see a couple options here including having two guitars, which I 
    am seriously trying to avoid or to possibly just get a full bodied TAK
    with the same acoutsic/electric/parametric EQ features.  Which once
    again leads me to the question of what do you guys think of cutaways... 
    
    Ben.
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1804.1PELKEY::PELKEYI love being a turtle!Fri Apr 27 1990 18:5632
well, here's how it went for me.

I had an Ovation Balladere..  Dumped it for an Ibanez lonestar.
Now realize the lonestar is an electric acoustic in the purest sense.

The cutaway is more for looks than sound...  It's simply a closed off
hole.. No sound comes from it at all, unlike that Tak's, hammers and
thin body guilds and Washburns.



So what came next was inevitable..


I bought another Ibanez that's a strait acoustic for kitchen
concerts.

one thing about the thin body cutaways.

they are WICKED comfortable to play.  So I keep me electric acoustic
as well as the full-body acoustic. And with a little help from a
graphic eq. and a DSP128, I can get some amazing sounds out
of her.

Eventually, when it's time for the auction block, they'll probably both go 
to pave the way for a twelve stringer...  Right now I need one, and
wouldn't want to do with out the other,,

By the by, the cutaway washbsurns are thin enough, yet thick enough
to do a decent job covering both requirements.

It's not the fullest,,, but then again...
1804.2Cutaway for fret access doesn't hurt soundBSS::COLLUMWe have Dr. Seuss on lead guitar, and...Fri Apr 27 1990 19:275
    I've played a couple really fine custom built acoustics, both the same
    guitar, one with and one without a cutaway.  I didn't notice any
    difference in sound.
    
    Will
1804.3CSC32::H_SOIf you like the shoe, then wear it!Sat Apr 28 1990 02:384
    
    Hey, Will.  What about the one you're gonna have custom built?
    
    J-Dot
1804.4Custom acoustic on orderBSS::COLLUMWe have Dr. Seuss on lead guitar, and...Mon Apr 30 1990 17:0116
    Don't get me started...("embossed" big?? Aw come on, read a little ;^))
    
    Actually, the two customs I played are the ones like mine.  I ordered
    the cutaway on mine, and I'll probably have a Strat dimensioned neck
    put on it with very low action.
    
    It's Cedar top, Duane's own radial-x bracing, Indian rosewood body and
    neck, ebony fretboard.  Medium sized body, but extra deep for that full
    dreadnaught sound, (same cubic inches as a dreadnaughtt) with the top
    and bracing being tuned for touch sensitivity.  It's killer.  The sound
    just jumps right out of the things.  I guess Duane has built 3 or 4
    with this design.
    
    Like I said, the cutaway didn't make a difference in the sound.
    
    Will (who's drooling just thinking that he can't wait till Christmas)
1804.5Electric vs. wood DENVER::MALKOSKITue May 01 1990 13:3624
    In my experience, a cutaway doesn't have an effect on the sound as much
    as the way the guitar is constructed.  Smaller bodied instruments tend
    to have a "tighter", more balanced and focused sound than dreadnaughts. 
    The wood makes a difference too.  I have a D-28 (Indian Roeswood) that
    has a warm, big sound.  But I also have a Martim OM (000-sized) that is
    very warm (Brazilian Rosewood).
    
    The point you make about the Tak and its electronics is no small point. 
    I believe that any good acoustic can be an excellent electric with the
    right components.  I have a Martin Thinline pickup in my D-28.  I feed
    it to a small equalizer/pre-amp that gives the same control as you will
    get from the Tak.  The sound is very good.
    
    Try, if you can, a Taylor guitar.  They are made in California in a
    number of models.  I have a 612, which is like a Martin 000.  It made
    of maple and also has a pickup.  It is very corfortable to play since
    it is smaller than the D-28 and has a tremendous neck, sorta like a Les
    Paul.  The same model can be had in a number of different woods
    (rosewood, koa, mahogany, maple), trims and with a cutaway.  A friend
    has one in koa (top, back and sides) with a cutaway.  It sounds just
    about the same as mine and it is beautiful.
    
    Paul
    
1804.6Maybe the Guild sounds better 'cause its made betterSUBWAY::BAUEREvan Bauer, DBS Tech Support, NYSat Aug 04 1990 03:309
    re .0
    
    I don't think the acoustic sound difference between the Guild and the
    Tak is the cutaway, necessarily -- sounds like the Guild is just a
    better acoustic guitar.  I'd keep the Guild and get a second guitar for
    playing out.  'Course my wife would probably kill me, but she's gonna
    eventually anyway.
    
    - Evan