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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1695.0. "Stomp Box Controllers?" by NRPUR::DEATON (In tents) Wed Feb 28 1990 12:50

	I was reading an article in some musician-type magazine (Electronic 
musician?) that mentioned stomp-box controllers.  I assume it meant a device 
that would configure what was in the signal path and what was not.  It seemed
to imply that these had become common.  I have never heard of them.  Is this
what the Patch Bayette (in that ever popular amplifier note) is?  What others
are out there on the market?  What exactly do they do?

	Dan (owner of a few stomp boxes)


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1695.1peavey strikes again...and again!HAMER::KRONBILL-THE-WONDER-MUTANTWed Feb 28 1990 13:1927
  I have a peavey midi-pedal board that controls 3 mono effects and
    two stereo pedals including the sequence of the effects units.
    So for example you had:
             1.distortion
             2.envelope follower
             3.equalizer
             4.stereo chorus
             5.stereo delay
      you can switch the order from :
        input-1-2-3-4left-outputleft
                    4right-5right-outputright
       to 1-4left-3-2-outputleft
            4right-outputright
    
    
    
    and any combination you can think of as long 
    as you don't try to merge the left and right signals back into
    one again....Mine has 128 memory programs that can be set up
    any way you please and it also can control midi devices also.
    I got it dirt cheap (75$) at sam ash in manhattan and have yet
    to really sit down and plan out a sequence of settings I would
    like to have but I will soon....It also supplies 9v power for the
    pedals.....
    Regards,
    -BiLL
    
1695.2programmable intensityFREEBE::REAUMEJane! Gimme back my loincloth!Wed Feb 28 1990 13:2919
    
      Yeah - that's what they do. The only ones I'm aware of right now
    are the Kitty Hawk Patch Bayettes, 360 Systems Audio Matrix,
    DW Labs Quickchange (something like that), Rockman MIDI Octopus,
    and the Rocktron/Bradshaw units. Obviously I can't speak for all
    the above mentioned units, but I am familiar with the KH units
    (a surprise to everyone).
      The KH patch bayette 1 has six audio loops and two switch controls
    that can be progammed into 128 patch locations. The loops can
    accomodate your stomp boxes while the switches can control amp
    channel switching (that's what I use them for) or any other
    on/off/bypass type of signal. The patch bayette 2 has no audio
    loops, six switch outs, a momentary switch out, and programmable
    A/B out so you can switch to different amps. The only tricky thing
    on these units is making sure you eliminate any ground loops, of
    course once it's all set and hardwired in then you're all set.
    
    						-BoOm-
    			
1695.3Ahead Of Their TimeAQUA::ROSTBikini Girls With Machine GunsWed Feb 28 1990 13:356
    
    There also was an Ibanez unit (now discontinued) in their UE line that
    allowed you to patch up four or five pedals.
    
    
    							Brian
1695.4$?NRPUR::DEATONIn tentsWed Feb 28 1990 14:294
	So, what do these units go for price-wise?

	Dan

1695.5exercise restraintFREEBE::REAUMEJane! Gimme back my loincloth!Wed Feb 28 1990 16:2212
      The Kitty Hawk P.B.'s were listing out at $695! I bought my
    last P.B.1 for $125 and P.B.2 for $100 but, as with all the last
    few months of Kitty Hawk purchases, was from the warehouse blowout!
    They originally would have run $400-500 from a dealer. I'm not really
    sure if any are left. And I don't want to call because then I'll
    probably oreder something!
      The Peavey and Rockman are probably among the lowest priced units
    out there. It's just a question as to wether they provide the
    functionality.
    
    						-BoOm-
    
1695.6comparison chartNRPUR::DEATONIn tentsWed Feb 28 1990 19:3113
	O.K., from relevant notes, I am beginning to gather what the various 
features are.  Can anyone fill in the blanks on the other units (rockman, 
Ibanez)?

                |best|          |  Order     |   MIDI    | # of |  Other 
Name of Unit	| $  | # of FX  | Switching? | control?  | mem. | features
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                |    |          |            |           |      |
Peavy MFP-2128  |$75 | 3 m/2 st |  yes       |  yes      | 128  | case
                |    |          |            |           |      |
KH PB 1         |$125| 6 (m?)   |  no?       |  yes?     | 128  | 2 prog sw.
                |    |          |            |           |      | rack-mount?