Conference napalm::guitar

We have a roland d-110 which is probably the d-20s daddy, 
well maybe big brother..


We got a bunch of roland stuff,, effects processors, stomp boxes,
midi timbrle (d110) and an entire Roland Midi drum setup..


Da stuff is top shelf!

    
    
      The D-20 is basically a D10 with a Very basic sequencer built-in.
    In my opinion, if you're going to spend approx $900 or more, you
    could do much better than the D-20.
     
                                Rich
    
      Check nova::commusic!!!
    use this command..............show keyword d20/full
                                                           
    
    

    The new Roland Users propaganda has all sorts of new products.  In
    addition to the SE-70, there's a SRV-330 (3-D reverbs) and SDE-330 (3-D
    delays, 8 independent delays up to 3 secs. each).  A SC-33 (stripped down 
    version of the Sound Canvas), an SD-35 (Canvas & Brush together in 1 
    unit), and lots of new multimedia stuff, including:
    
    - Digital recording studio software for PC/Mac
    - SC-7 sound module for music *AND* games
    - 3 sets of stereo micro monitors, one to set your PC/Mac monitor on.

         Has anyone heard anything about the new Roland
    SDE-330 Dimentional Expander, or anything about the
    new 3-D reverbs and delays mentioned in the previous
    note?  
         I talked to someone at Daddy's over the phone and
    was told that these things are VERY new and that they
    should be getting some in soon.  I would think that 
    these units should be out judging by the date of the
    previous posting. 
         BTW, I've seen these things available in mail-order
    mags for almost a grand$$$.  (!)  A demo CD of all these
    units is available through Roland for a $5 price tag.
    It's got like 70+ samples on it.  I'm thinking about 
    looking into this, any advise?
    
    Kev --
      

    I certainly don't htink they are "VERY new".
    
    I saw this in the RUG magazine at least six months ago.   
    
    Of course, it's possible that it didn't actually come out until well
    after it was announced there.

    New? Not unless they did a Mark 2 or something.  It's been out for
    about a year, as I recall.  I've seen it in mail order catalogs for a
    long time.
    
    I read a review in a magazine (Recording, previously Home & Studio
    Recording, as I recall, might have been EQ) that said the 3D effect was
    pretty subtle, but it was a great reverb and they felt it was well
    worth the money.
    
    I have a couple of the older Roland SRV2000 reverbs in my studio and
    they are outstanding.
    
    Greg

    They were in RUG in the summer of '93, when first released.

    RE:  Last few...
    
         Man, that dude at Daddy's needs a slap.  It turns
    out he told me a bunch of crap (the Mesa 395 deal, Coop!).
         The thing about the reverb being worth it is really
    what I wanted to hear, cause that's essentially what I
    am looking into.  
    
    Thanks,
    Kev --
    

    Well, one thing,  although I have seen these mentioned in the RUG,
    I think the first time I actually saw a real live unit was only a few
    weeks ago.
    
    They may be "new" in the sense that they just arrived at the store.

    One thing I didn't mention, Kev...  While the SRV2k is a marvelous
    studio reverb, I don't think it'd be all that wonderful in a guitar
    rig, too hard to use.  Maybe the SRV-330 is better, I haven't seen one
    in person.
    
    Greg

    The guy MUST be a putz - He said the Simul:395 was the replacement 
    for the Boogie Strategy 500.   (Bzzzt!  Wrong answer!)

    A friend of mine has an old Roland drum machine,  I think he said model
    505 or 707.  Anyway, he left it in a closset and the battery ran down.
    When he replaced the battery all of the stored information was gone.
    
    It sounds like this unit must have some NVR that the battery was
    keeping charged.  Does anyone know a way to reprogram or reset this
    unit?  He doesn't have any documentation.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark 

>    			<<< Note 1588.13 by NOTAPC::HARPER >>>
>                           -< Drum machine question >-
>
>    A friend of mine has an old Roland drum machine,  I think he said model
>    505 or 707.  Anyway, he left it in a closset and the battery ran down.
>    When he replaced the battery all of the stored information was gone.
>    
>    It sounds like this unit must have some NVR that the battery was
>    keeping charged.  Does anyone know a way to reprogram or reset this
>    unit?  He doesn't have any documentation.
>    
>    Thanks,
>    
>    Mark 

I believe that the 707 allowed backup via a memory cartridge and also to 
cassette tape. Can your friend spell backup?

If you're asking how to return the machine to factory spec, there is a reset
sequence. I think one had to hold Shift and one of the Track Mode buttons 
while powering up. 

m

    I don't know specifically about the Roland drum machines, but I know a
    lot of the gear on the market these days has a little battery inside
    that refreshes the memory so that you can do things like turning it off
    or changing batteries without losing your programs.  I had to have a
    battery like this (little soldered in lithium cell) replaced in a
    Yamaha SPX-90 effects processor that I own awhile back.
    
    Greg

         I HAVE to know, what is the new Roland guitar product
    coming in March?  
    
    Kev --
    

    
         Anybody check out the 3 page ad in this month's GP
    regarding the new Roland V-Guitar System?  This floor unit
    supposedly allows you to "build" almost any guitar through
    it's electronic means.  I guess you can place different
    pickup configurations in virtual places on the guitar (even
    up the neck) along with different cabinet/amp configurations
    as well as different mics and mic placements.  You can select
    any tuning you wish without touching your tuning pegs.  Plus
    a bunch of other stuff I'm sure.  I just scanned the ad
    quickly.  Anyone care to take it from here?
    
    Kev --
    

	A dealer mentioned this new product to me,evidently it works with the GK2 pickup
and allows you to configure your setup so you can emulate items like a 60's Strat through a 
Fender Super Reverb. I guess Roland was showing it at some kind of trade show(NAMM?) It's a 
nice idea,but I'm sure it will be priced outside the reach of a typical player for the six
months to a year and then something new will arrive and drive down the price. I wonder how
many other companies will try to come out something similiar? Lets see wheres that 1938 Gibson
L5 patch?  :^)

									Rick

This puppy lists over $2600 - I haven't seen any retail prices yet.  I
don't believe that that price includes the pickup...

Geoff

    This system is too much.  I mean, if I were a high-price LA studio cat,
    this would be ideal, but to the average player, who needs all that?

    re V guitar
    	
    	Does it *really* work though, and I dont mean the new toy syndrome
    either,  for those bucks it should be indistinguishable form the real 
    thing.
    
    P.K.

    Better late than never.  I checked out the Roland 707 brum machine
    and found that the power supply was putting out 17 volts instead of 12
    and the two AA batteries were near dead.  After replacing both I did 
    the power up with the mode and whatever buttons down and it was like
    new again.  We just need to find some cartridges for it now.
    
    Thanks for the help,
    
    Mark

    
    Gave the new V-Guitar thing a brief whirl up at Daddy's
    over the weekend.  This thing certainly has it's share of
    cool sounds in it.  Unfortunately, I didn't have the time 
    to really get into the speaker emulation/pick-up set-up
    thing as that's the area Roland has been claiming a major
    breakthru in...don't know about that tag price!?!  
    
    I'd like to spend some more time with this thing.  I was
    majorly lost in space without a manual or some help from the
    help.
    
    Kev --
    (...did make another large step into Boogieland)
    

    
    Got this off the Internet ...
    
Subject: Re: Roland VG-8 V-Guitar System?

        When I first heard of this I was pissed off. The nerve of someone 
to want to replace my Fender twin and my Strat. One piece of equipment to
replace all the gear I have painstakingly put together. Years of dollars
finding the right Guitar/Amp/effects combination. Then I had the chance to
record with one of them.....so what did I think.....

See above comment :)

        Seriously though. I ran the unit via my strat straight into the
desk. Whilst it did give some nice 'sounds', I found that the overall tones
didn't make me want to run out an buy one ( Not at $4500 Aus NOT INCLUDING THE
GK2 PICKUP - NOTE *What do Roland think I'm going to use instead of this??? ).

How it went - I got to the Studio and my friend rolled up with the unit so we
could give it a try. I installed the pickup in about ten minutes so the set-up 
may have been a bit dodgy but considering this, the tracking*1 was excellent. 
I then scrolled through the presets. The 'clean' guitar sounds where quite 
good, Fenders,Vox...etc. The Distored sounds (ala Marshall's) didn't really 
moove me ( Note * I've also owned Marshalls in the past ). 

	The synthier type sounds where o.k too ( I know it's not a synth.. 
but that's the only way I could describe them :). I ended up using a 
Marshallistic type sound for the track we where recording. We where after a 
'grungy' type guitar track (Flat out sound, very little dynamics). The box 
did this o.k ( I wasn't really pushing it's capabilties ). I ended up 
recording the track again a few weeks later with my Twin / Strat / ME-10.  

At the end of the day I'd say I'd like one. Not as a $4500 floor module but 
as a half rack mount unit which sells for less than $900 Aus. Then it would 
be part of my effects loop not a replacement for any of my gear (I am a gear 
slut after all :) 

tracking*1 : To my understanding of the unit, the output is a mix of the 
original pickup output ( the gk2 ) and the 'virtual' sound. The clean sounds 
therefore can utilise a lot of the 'original' signal coming from the 
string/pickup assembly. Then add the 'soap' ontop of the original signal
to give the various tones. This then makes the tracking a different kettle
of fish when compared to say a MIDI controller. There is no pitch to midi
conversion ( This is where the lag comes in on Guitar - Midi. Converting the 
strings pitch to midi info ). Remember we are changing the guitar signal 
to a different format ( midi ) to then send a signal to the synth. The 
VG8 is using the guitars signal and modifying that directly. Still it is 
no easy feat to do that but the perception of a 'tracking delay' is very 
less apparent. 

	If your after another synth controller, make sure this will do it.
I'm not sure it does as someone else pointed out. Because it's primary 
design is not to control other synths, you may find this the wrong thing to
get. Note * I recently demo'ed the new Roland GI-10. This is a ptich 
to midi converter used with the GK2 pickup system ( GK2 NOT included in the 
price. Why does that not surprise me :)  It does not contain any sound sources 
and is basically a half rack GR-09 with out the synth section. Very simple 
midi control and only about a dozen parameters to set-up and play. Nice unit. 
Tracked pretty good.

    Speaking of Roland products....I think they just teamedup with Fender
    or visa-versa, an dput a synth pick-up in a Strat. For more info, see
    Frontline magazine from Fender.
    
    -kev

    
         I saw a clip with Neil Schon where he had a Roland synt-pick up
    custom installed onto a beauty white Les Paul.  It could hardly
    be seen (which is the way I would want it).
         I gave this thing a try a while back and liked it (didn't like
    the price though).  I thought the "dolce" sounds I was getting 
    with the virtual pick-up on the neck were awesome, especially when
    running through some classical pieces (a la Sor, Ponce, my own, 
    whatever).  Mixing the signal with the "virtual" signal off the
    pick-up was interesting as well.  This thing has some really fine
    sounds for a clean player.
    
    BTW, the distortion didn't do anything for me either.
    
    Kev --