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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1545.0. "Pickups and Strings vs beginners..." by FERNEY::HUDELOT (DECBringue ...) Tue Oct 31 1989 11:49

    I'd like to find who or where to get hardcopies of Seymour Duncan's
    pickup's catalog, as well as Di Marzio, EMG ,... 
    
    Since I'm a bass player beginner, I don't know much about pickups and
    strings. I learned a lot by reading notes 31,213,311,565,853,1218,1238,
    436,1430, but I think that I still need a lot of info like how to
    choose pick-ups and strings, who and how to incriminate either p/u's
    or strings when having bad sounds, etc...
    
    So do not hesitate to give your inputs, there might be other 
    beginners like me who read this conference and want to learn.
    
    Any input would be very appreciated.
    
    Patrick -Not-really-easy-to-find-accurate-info-from-the-outside-world
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1545.1ANY store should have brocures for stuff they sellMPGS::MIKRUTDon't you boys know any NICE songs?Tue Oct 31 1989 12:3110
    I got my Seymour Duncan brochure from Hamel Music in Chelmsford (across
    from Marshall's). [btw, Marshall's is a clothing store, and NOT a
    store that sells amps  :^)
    
    But you should be able to get a brochure from ANY music store which
    stocks SD's, EMG's, DiMarzio's, etc. etc.
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    cheers/mike
1545.2TIGLET::PELKEYLoco Boy Makes Good.Tue Oct 31 1989 16:429
Just a dumb question..

Why are yoo looking for replacement pickups ?

More dumb questions..

What kind of Bass you got..

Do you use a pick, or fingers, or both..
1545.3PNO::HEISERRude Dog's TrainerTue Oct 31 1989 19:063
    You can also call the numbers in the "Manufacturers Information" note.
    
    Mike
1545.4Try them out !USEM::SEAWARDTue Oct 31 1989 20:3361
    A recent issue of Bass Player Magazine, focussing on Soloing, covered
    some of your questions.
    
    The best way to choose is to try out the combinations that you are
    interested in at music stores, because a lot of factors go into
    making up the final sound.
    
    The bass has certainly evolved dramatically in a relatively short
    period of time.  Now you see set-ups like Billy Sheehan's where
    a special neck pickup is routed to one amp where the signal is
    divided, while the bridge pickup is routed to yet another amp.
    You can get an eight string bass, fretless bass, synthesizer
    bass, and you can use special tuning.
    
    I recently upgraded pickups on my Ibanez RD700 to a set of EMG
    PJ pickups.  The changeover was straightforward, but only
    because I had only three controls: the Ibanez panning pot,
    volume and tone were replaced by the EMG neck volume,
    bridge volume, and tone control.  If the existing set-up had
    been two or four controls, some serious body work would
    have been needed.  I am happy with the EMGs, they have a
    wide tonal range and monstrous output - I no longer get
    the cardboard treble tones that I suffered with.
    
    Now, if I had wanted to make a radical change to two coil
    type pickups, I would have been better off buying a new
    bass due to the massive body changes.
    
    I suggest that you figure out what kind of sound you want to
    get, then check out equipment accordingly, bearing in mind 
    that the amp and speaker have a lot to contribute - I've
    heard a Trace Elliot (top of the line bass amp) make a
    Rickenbacker with years-old strings sound fat and warm;
    when the guy plugged into my Carvin he experienced a dead
    sound littered with the clicking of strings on the frets !
    
    Also, it seems a sad fact that bass strings age very
    quickly - I haven't found anyone that gets more than
    a couple weeks of great sound.  Considering that the
    strings are 20 - 28 dollars, great sound doesn't
    happen every day.  Years ago, age was thought to be
    useful, back when flatwound strings were in vogue. The
    story goes that James Jamerson, the Motown great, fell
    out of favor because he would not change his 2 year
    old Labella strings that would no longer create accurate
    pitch at higher frets.
    
    Then of course there is tapping, which is easier with
    lighter guage strings - but I haven't progressed into
    that exotic land.
    
    I still consider myself a beginner after almost a couple
    years on the bass.  When I have tone problems, I take a
    close look at how old the strings are, and string
    picking/plucking technique.  From what I have been reading,
    string plucking technique is the big factor in how a bass
    sounds, given that the equipment is reasonable; and is what
    I plan to focus on.  Hope all this helps !
    
    -Bill
    
1545.5My strings were dead...FERNEY::HUDELOTDECBringue ...Wed Nov 01 1989 14:3520
    Thank you very much for all your answers. I changed my strings
    yesterday for Roto sound swing bass ones. I guess that my old 
    ones were very very old, 'cause had a dead fat sound before (I
    play on Fender P.bass). Now, I can really change its tone just
    by adjusting the tone control on the bass itself, which wasn't
    the case before. Of course, I can get a larger sounds variety
    by tuning my Carvin, but I was frustated that I could not do
    it on the guitar.
    
    I'm not looking to pickups now, but just looking for info on
    what I can get, the price, the quality, and the sound I want.
    My seller has just one Seymour Duncan cat. (we are in France)
    and I would like to read some doc. quietly. That's why I was
    looking for some addresses in the states where I could get 
    them. I'll check in the manufacturers note.
    
    But if you have other advices for beginners, please do not
    hesitate to put them here.
    
    Patrick