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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1386.0. ">Learn By Tape ???\" by CASPRO::PELLERIN () Wed Jul 19 1989 14:58

I'm looking for some feedback/input/comments on the "learn by tape"
    method/market. I would prefer video tapes, but I'm curious about
    how good the audio cassette format is. Has anyone used these?
    
    I'm in a "I want to learn some new stuff" mode and I don't have
    the time to go out and find a teacher nor would I be able to commit
    to taking a lesson once a week or whatever.
    
    I have read the advertizements of several producers of these tapes
    (Learn to Burn, Star Tapes, Blues, Etc...) and have ordered two...
    
      o Larry Carlton (featuring Larry himself on the tape)
      o Paul Gilbert (currently with Billy Sheehan in "Mr. Big")
    
    I just want to be an all-around better guitar player. I'm not
    necessaraly"into" one style of music, although I love the Blues
    (since it's set up for a good solo most times). 
    
    I like Jazz, Blues, and am currently in a Top-40 Rock band called
    "Crossfire" playing many New England clubs. 
    
    Any input????
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1386.1DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDThe sea refuses no river...Wed Jul 19 1989 15:1213
I have two Arlen ROth videos: one is slide guitar the other is Chicago blues
guitar.

 I have mixed emotions: The slide guitar tape is good and was very useful to me
but it got boring listening to Arlen riff out between useful parts. The other 
tape was useless since I've advanced beyond minor penatonic scales and that's 
all it covered, and again the riffing out bored me.

I do recommend the slide tape, in spite of the wasted time, as it definatly 
gets you up and running on slide guitar. The other tape I woud recommend only to
anyone who currently has no idea how to play blues lead guitar.

dbii
1386.2$$$SIGVAX::KARRFALTSteve Dallas is BACK!...and he's badWed Jul 19 1989 15:2325
	Crossfire, I think I've heard the name.
	
	I have a Zeppelin tape that I ordered about 4 years ago, and it's not
bad.  Basically, it tells you what fret to play on what string, along with the
corrosponding note name.  It breaks everything into sections - first they play
it at the proper speed and then they play it "note-for-note", telling you what
to play.  You obviously have to go through it a few times to memorize it, but
it works.  If nothing else, it helps you to learn the names of the notes at 
each fret.  

	Personally, I prefer good old written tabs because it allows me to work
at my own speed (which is rather slow).

	Overall they are helpfull, the only downfall being the price.  They can 
get very expensive since you have to buy an entire tape with maybe 8 or 10 songs
on it in order to get the one you want.  The tape that I have was a good 
investment for me because I wanted to learn every lead (I don't like LZ *too*
much).  One posssible solution to this problem would be to set up a "swap" meet
to exchange tapes with other people once you learn what you want to.  You could
even copy the tapes before you swap them, but I didn't say that.  (Mr. Moderator
will probably zap my reply for even mentioning the dreaded four-letter "C" 
word!)


						Brad
1386.3PNO::HEISERbash-n-the codeWed Jul 19 1989 17:184
    From what I've seen in the guitar mags, Larry Carlton has a new
    video out that lists for $50!
    
    Mike
1386.4Metal Method is cool...MAAFA1::WYOUNGYow! Lemme outta here!Wed Jul 19 1989 19:1513
    
    
    I have a couple Metal Method tapes, and have seen others in the
    series. I'd recommend them. He now has tapes of songs, as well as
    lesson tapes and videos. A friend ordered some stuff a year ago
    from Fretboard Dynamics, and his order STILL isn't straight. I've
    seen some of that stuff too; and it's good, but near impossible
    to get. Anybody out there have any James Gleason stuff? He's the
    dude who has 1 and 2-page ads of song transcriptions in GP and GPM.
    
    
    						Warren Young
    
1386.5AZTECH::MADDUXno title yet bluesThu Jul 20 1989 15:558
    I've used the several of the tapes from Homespun.  Since I read 
    fluently (college trumpet major), I would sit down with a new tape
    and the tab/music - give it a careful listen, then put the tape
    away and study the tab.  Good results this way, but it's extremely
    important to work on the piece or lick/riff every day.  I found
    that after 1-2 weeks I could master a given tape/piece - although
    this largely depends on the piece.  (limerock still gives me fits).
    
1386.6by mail?BTOVT::BEST_GCommunion with the SunThu Jul 20 1989 19:278
    
    Perhaps, if you can find a good teacher, and depending on what you 
    want to learn, you good get someone to give you lessons by mail.
    They could make tapes, play chord patterns, scales, etc., and send
    along a transcription of it too.  This would work good if you are
    trying to learn some basic theory.
    
    Guy
1386.7Jazz lessons.POBOX::DAVIAAnd the bearded lady said to me...Thu Jul 20 1989 20:108
    
    Downbeat has an add for three Barney Kessel instructional video's.
    One sells for $70 and the other two for $50 a piece. I'd really
    like to check it out but those are really high prices. Then again,
    lessons from Barney Kessel...?? Anyone know anything of these videos.

    
     Phil 
1386.8<>POOL::CLABORNThere's no &quot;'&quot; in the possessive itsThu Jul 20 1989 20:2512
           <<< Note 1386.5 by AZTECH::MADDUX "no title yet blues" >>>

	(limerock still gives me fits).
    

That little cross-picking 'A' part up on 9 and 10 where you have to switch back
to the open position in one beat? I'm with you... a real killer!

- George

BTW - I too have also found the Homespun tapes very useful; especially the
      series by Dan Crary.
1386.9How about Classical????UKCSSE::WILLIAMSWed Aug 23 1989 13:0810
    
    
    How about this... has anyone ever seen any "learn by tape" for
    classical guitar? I live in the UK, and have spent some time looking
    around music stores here, but can't find any. If there are any such
    things in the States, I can get them sent over..
    
    thanks
    Angela
    
1386.10SIEVAX::OLDHAM::MIDONAAlan MidonaMon Sep 25 1989 11:5314
	Hi,

	I'm sure I've seen one somewhere...It may be in the local music
	shop here in Newbury (Berks). I'll have a look for you the next
	time I'm in there.

	The only simillar idea I can remember is all those plastic
	flexi-records that you get in the 'Complete Guitarist' series.
	But they are sheer unadulterated bat-guano.  At most they tell 
	you how to tune the guitar and maybe play the first noddy-pieces.

	I'll get back to you...

	Alan.
1386.11Found one... :)UKCSSE::WILLIAMSMon Oct 23 1989 15:5415
    
    
    Hi Alan - I managed to find a "teach yourself" book in a Winchester 
    book store on Saturday. Its interesting, because the book claims that
    you have to understand classical to a certain level prior to going onto
    any other form.. Anyway, from a quick glance last night, the book and
    cassette look promising. - I really don't know how anybody could really
    teach themselves to go from scratch to a reasonable level of classical
    - without having a live teacher.. but when you've had a few lessons
    it helps fill in some blanks....
    
    I should be a good laugh driving the other half crazy whilst I try to
    keep up with the cassette
    
    :) 
1386.12Homespun Tapes has a classical seriesSUBWAY::BAUEREvan Bauer, DBS Tech Support, NYTue Oct 24 1989 19:598
    The most recent Homespun Tapes catalog shows a complete set (6 tapes,
    each with book) by Stephen Funk Pearson (sp?) that looks pretty good. 
    My own experience with the stuff from Homespun has been excellent.  I
    think the address for them (in Woodstock, NY) is posted in the
    conference, if not let me know and I'll post it when I get home (don't
    have a catalog in the office).
    
    - Evan