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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1269.0. "Stereo Phone plug to Mono Effect" by DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE (If all else fails, take a nap...) Fri Apr 21 1989 13:31

    
    
    	I just bought a couple of Radio Shack right angle phone plugs
    that were on sale so that I could patch up a couple of cords to
    use with all these new stomp boxes that I've been buying (going
    through my effects period??)   Anyway, I just tied the ground portion
    to ground and the tip to hot and forgot about the middle lug:
    
    
                        |--------------------------|
    O__|_____|__________|                          |
                        |__________________________|
    hot1 hot2 ground
    
    
    	And found out that these patches would work OK with some
    applications and not with others.  Looks like some of my, jacks,
    like my guitar and my delay pedal find the grounded area further
    back and some don't.... I don't have any stereo effects, but these
    plugs were really cheap... $1.19 for 2 of em'.   Anyway, I jumped
    both ground lug and hot2 lug to ground and things worked fine. 
    I know this is probably not a space age discovery, but it would
    have been helpful to me if I'd known it in advance....
    
    
    
    Steve
    
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1269.1really at RS?TOOK::SUDAMALiving is easy with eyes closed...Fri Apr 21 1989 17:1720
    Were these really right angle (like 90 degrees) phone plugs? I didn't
    think Radio Shack had such things. I've been looking to find some for a
    long time to make some new stereo cords for my ES-345, so I'd
    appreciate it if you could tell me where you got them. As far as I knew
    RS made right angle mono plugs, and straight stereo plugs, but not
    right angle stereo plugs.
    
    If anyone else knows of a source in the Boston area (or mail order) for
    good quality right angle stereo plugs, I'd like to hear about it. I'd
    also like to know if there is a good source in the Rt 495 area for
    stereo (3-wire) shielded cable.
    
    As far as your wiring goes, all you've done is make the whole shaft
    into a ground connector. This will work most of the time, but you may
    run into some problems getting a good contact if the ground connector
    on the jack happens to strike right at the insulation ring on the plug
    shaft.
    
    - Ram
    that stereo plugs will usually work 
1269.2In's! GIAMEM::DERRICOFri Apr 21 1989 17:247
       I hate when that happens..don't you! On most of the small effect
    boxes, They use a stereo (female) jack. When you plug your cord
    in to the box, the ground portion of your jack is used to make 
    connection to the Hot-2 pin in the effects box. This is used to
    turn the pedal on, it's a battery saver.
    
    JD
1269.3AQUA::ROSTDWI,favorite pastime of the average guyFri Apr 21 1989 17:2914
    
    Re: .1
    
    For stereo cords for guitars, you need 2-conductor shielded cable (that
    is a total of 3 conductors, counting the shield).  Microphone cable
    like this can be bought at most supply houses, even RS sells it.  I
    bought a 50' spool of it at RS about two years ago. 
        
    I've used this for wiring XLR mike cables and also for making three
    conductor 1/8" stereo mike cables for the mike for a Walkman Pro.

    BTW, I think the plugs on sale now are the right angle ones with the
    plastic bodies.
    
1269.4Open vs. Closed Circuit..DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Fri Apr 21 1989 18:3415
    
    
    	.1   Yup.. 1.19 for two nifty stereo plugs
    	.3   They are all metal...
    	.2   Ummmmm... yeah, but not exactly.. even though they carry
    two signals... the battery saver feature is provided by way of a
    closed circuit terminal that "makes" the ground lug when a plug
    is inserted... hey, I'm starting to get a little excited... <grin>
    anyway.. the battery ground is hooked infront of this thing and
    the battery circuit remains open until Mr. Phone plug comes for
    a visit.
    
    
    
    Steve
1269.5RS plug pitfall, and on the general utility of 90 o plugsDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeMon Apr 24 1989 13:3527
    Awhile ago, I went out and bought a batch of RS right angle plugs.
    
    One thing you should be wary of in the RS plugs is that they are
    VERY WIDE.  If you have to plug two of them side by side (such
    as in a rack mount, a unit that has the input plug close to the
    output plug, or a unit that has closely spaced stereo out plugs),
    you may NOT be able to use these plugs.
    
    But generally speaking, right angle plugs are VERY useful.
    
    I was trying to "rationalize" the wiring in my keyboard and guitar
    rig and I needed the right angle plugs in places where I didn't
    want things sticking out the back of my rack.  
    
    I also want the right angle plugs for things that plugged into the back
    and front of my guitar amps.   For example, using right angle plugs
    for the input and channel switching plugs on the front of my Boogie,
    would allow me to fit the cover over the amp without having to
    unplug anything.  I wrap the cord around the side and stuff the rest
    of it in the back under the speaker, and then slip the cover
    over the whole thing.
    
    It may sound somewhat anal, but the less plugs you have to fuss with
    when you setup and breakdown, the faster it becomes and the less
    chance there is for error.
    
    	db
1269.6S.G.GIAMEM::DERRICOMon Apr 24 1989 16:044
    Re.4   You said what I think I thought I said...
           
                      djd
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1269.7DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Mon Apr 24 1989 19:133
    
    
    	Oh yeah... <blush>
1269.8DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Tue Aug 15 1989 20:076
    
    
    
    	And another neat Shack Product for 1990 is a set of needle files
    for 5.99, some of which look a lot like the more expensive Luthier's
    files that I see in music catalogs..... part number 64-1985