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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1266.0. "Left high and dry" by CAVEAT::COLE () Thu Apr 20 1989 19:19

    	Howdy,
    
        I have an MSA single neck (E9) 10 string pedal steel guitar.
      This machine has only a single F# to G puller on the left-left
      knee lever. I would like to add a puller on this lever. My 
      dilemma is this; MSA went out of business about 4 years ago
      and parts are now impossible to obtain. The only part I'm missing
      is the pull crank. This piece is make of aluminum and has a bushing
      installed for pull rod pivot (I realize this may be hard to visualize
      for non-steel players). This piece is about 1.25"" x 3/8"" x 1/2""
      so you can see it's a rather small part. I checked out a couple
      of machine shops in the Hudson area and the cheapest price to
      reproduce the part is $50, that's right $50 for a $1.00 part.
    
      Do any of you folks know of;
    
      Other steel players with access to parts or
    
      Know of a semi-private shop that can help out a poor soul like
      me. I have the aluminum stock and I'm sure I can find a bushing.
      The problem is cutting and drilling. Even the specs aren't that
      critical.
    
    
    					Thanx in Advance,
    
    					Dave "Please don't send me to
    
    					Nashville" Cole
    
    					DTN: 297-5599
    
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1266.1Betcha Emmons is nextLEDS::ORSISee the man with the Stage frightFri Apr 21 1989 12:078
    
    Dave, call Tom Cass in Woburn if you haven't already. He has MSA
    parts. When he can't get parts, or they are just too expensive,
    he has a machinist friend crank out some for him. 
    
    Neal
    
    
1266.2MSA? They're like folding tables right?? ;^)SALEM::ABATELLIFurther on down the road...Fri Apr 21 1989 19:4128
    
    WORD OF CAUTION IN MSA MANIA!!!
    
    	I knew this guy that had a MSA Sidekick (3 pedals/1 knee lever)
    and didn't like it anymore cause he outgrew it. Buy another one? 
    Naw... too easy! He instead put in three more pedals and one more
    knee lever. During a gig it literally folded up on him.
    
    Fred (ex-MSA owner)
    
    BTW... I wasn't the person you just read about.
    

    =========================================================================
    Speaking about steels...
    
    I heard a cute story years ago about Curly Chocker (sp). Years ago
    he was going to play with the London Symphony and while he was setting
    up his guitar one of the musicians from the orchestra was watching
    him. He asked Curly if he was going to play "that thing" and Curly
    said "yes"! A few minutes went by and again the musician asked Curly
    if he was "really" going to play that thing. Curly said yes and
    after he had put the legs on and connected the pedals he took it
    out of the case and the musician almost fell over with laughter.
    WHY? Because he had never seen a steel before and didn't know they
    had strings too! All he had seen was the bottom side of the guitar!
    Funny? Maybe you had to be there? I have a better story, but I'll
    leave that for another day, or year, or... well...  nevermind.
1266.3LEDS::ORSISee the man with the Stage frightMon Apr 24 1989 12:5626
    Re -1
    Great story about Curley Chalker.
    
    BTW, all pedal steels are not created equal.
    
    Equating Dave's MSA with the Sidekick is like saying that a Fender
    Strat is the same as a Fender Bronco.
    
    The MSA Sidekick is the student model and made very cheaply
    like the Sho-bud Maverick and shouldn't be equated with the real
    thing. Most student models have very unsophisticated mechanics like
    bellcranks with rods and collars, and never pull true without all
    the other strings dropping about an 1/8 of a note or more. Good
    intonation is only possible once in while. I would never modify
    one of these guitars. 
    
    Dave's guitar is a professional model and can be modified to suit
    his needs. 
    
    The only decent student model I've played is the Emmons GS-10. 
    It has the same pick-up as the more expensive models, but no alum-
    inum neck, and it stays in tune, but if you try to modify the thing,
    you'd be asking for trouble.
    
    Neal
    
1266.4In support of MSA Classic XL'sCAVEAT::COLEMon Apr 24 1989 14:2914
    Thanx for coming to the rescue Neal! I just installed a Bill Lawrence
    2600 ohm pickup into the machine and it really screams now. The
    old one was a B. Lawrence but only 1200 ohms. I took my steel to
    Tom Cass(ella) and he moved the chromatic F#-G raise and placed
    it on the lower F#. He's the guy who handed me the new pickup. I
    guess they are no longer making the 2600 ohm model so I skoffed
    it up. I also got a match box (Goodrich) and the highs are punchier.
    
    Neal, We still got to get together. Things are a little tight now
    though. Deb and I had a baby girl 2 weeks ago. Once things cool
    down I'll have you over and you can show me a few things. I'll bring
    the beer!
    
    							Dave