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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1167.0. "US vs UK electrical differences ??" by CHEFS::DALLISON (a slip of the tongue) Tue Feb 28 1989 10:03

                                
    Hi - I'm visiting the US soon and thinking about bringing back a
    few "toys".                 
                                
    SO, my question is - how do I tell if something I buy over there
    (eg a BOSS FX pedal) will work over here ?? I hear that there are
    differences between power or something and I'd like to find out
    exactly what I can and what I can't bring back.
                
    Cheers,     
    -Tony 	( Reading, England )
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1167.1Go For Batteries or Wall BugsAQUA::ROSTShe's looking better every beerTue Feb 28 1989 11:1810
    
    Anything that runs off batteries or uses a wall bug is OK, Boss makes
    different AC adapters for different countries, so you just get the one
    you need back home. 
    
    Our voltage here is 117 VAC nominal (sometimes called 110-120) at
    60 Hz.  The frequency should be of no concern.  What's your voltage
    over there? I'm sure our AC plugs are different, so at the very least 
    you would need to put new plugs on any AC-powered stuff.  If you
    need to change the transformer, well.....  
1167.2ac-dc conversionANT::JACQUESTue Feb 28 1989 11:2525
    
    I can tell you that all Boss effect pedals (and most stomp boxes
    in general) run off of 9vdc (transistor batteries) and can be 
    powered up by a separate power supply. The power supply is where
    the differance comes in. You would have to buy a 9v power supply
    made for the UK power standard. So essentially, you could buy
    all the stomp boxes you want stateside, and get a power supply
    when you get back home. Even the PSM5 or NS2 should work as long
    as you have the correct powerpack.
     
    What exactly is the UK power standard ? Ours is 110v, 60hz. 
    I believe the UK standard is 440v, 50hz. The only differance    
    between power supplies would be that the turn ratio of the 
    transformer would be 4x, and the filtering capacitors would
    be differant to deal with the differant ripple component.
    
    Some AC powered effects have a switch on the back which allows
    you to select UK or US operation. They do this by using a multi-
    tapped transformer, and parallel filtering circuits. Check before 
    you buy.
    
    have a nice trip,
    Mark
    
    
1167.3IOSG::CREASYSmile out loudTue Feb 28 1989 12:201
    UK power supply is 240V 50Hz.
1167.4ASAHI::COOPERUAF Audits ? Bah-Humbug!Tue Feb 28 1989 12:516
    Some toize like Marshall have a switch in the back for 120/240 volt
    operation...Seems like that would be handy.
    
    Of course you probably don't wanna lug home a marshall eh ?
    
    ;^)
1167.5CHEFS::DALLISONa slip of the tongueWed Mar 01 1989 06:3812
         
    re:JC
    
    I dunno - I quite fancy a mini stack  8^)
    
         
    Can someone in the states give me an idea of how many $$$ BOSS stomp
    boxes are over there please - send mail if its not allowed to be
    put in here.
         
    Cheers,
    -Tony
1167.6US Prices on BOSS Stomp BoxesAQUA::ROSTShe's looking better every beerWed Mar 01 1989 11:3015
    
    Which ones do you want?
    
    MZ-2 Digital Metallizer  about $150
    
    BF-2 Flanger, CE-3 Chorus, GE-7 Equalizer, PH-2 Phaser, DS-2 Turbo
    Distortion  about $100
    
    CS-2 Comporessor, OD-1 Overdrive, HM-2 Heavy Metal   about $60
    
    RV-2 Digital Reverb, DSD-3 Digital delay/Sampler, PS-2 Pitch
    Shifter/Delay	about $175

    These are ballpark prices in US dollars I got from a mail-order
    catalog
1167.7CHEFS::DALLISONa slip of the tongueWed Mar 01 1989 15:2911
1167.8$100AQUA::ROSTShe's looking better every beerWed Mar 01 1989 16:433
    
    The NS-2 Noise Suppressor is about $100.  I haven't even seen one
    yet.
1167.9some suggestionsANT::JACQUESFri Mar 03 1989 11:4141
    I have seen the NS2 at Wurly and Union. These units are actually
    a PSM5 and a noise suppressor in one unit. They do the Power
    supply function (still requires a wall bug), master switch function,
    and noise suppression...neat)
    
    Most of the latest Boss pedals have 4 small knobs on them. The older
    units have 3 larger knobs. In most cases the extra knob provides
    an important function. For example the CS2 compressor/sustainer
    has been replaced by the CS3 but there are still lots of CS2's 
    in the stores. The differance between the CS2 and CS3 is the CS3
    has a tone pot. This makes this compressor more versatile, because
    some compressors tend to muddy up the sound, but with the tone
    pot this can be avoided.
    
    Boss (to my knowledge) introduced the first Chorus unit ever and
    called it the CE1. This unit was about 10" x 6" and was AC powered
    (I had one of these). Eventually they replaced it with the CE2 which
    is in a standard Boss stomp box package with 3 knobs. The latest
    version CE3 has a fourth knob for something (could it be modulation?)
    If you are buying a Boss Chorus unit make sure to get the CE3, unless
    you can get a CE2 dirt cheap. I would suggest you stay away from
    the CE1 because personal experience tells me these units were level
    sensitive, and had the tendency to load your guitar signal down.
    You could only crank the gain up so high before the unit started
    to distort. The resulting output signal was significantly smaller
    than the original pickup output.
    
    I believe Boss has 3 delay pedals. Not sure on models numbers, but
    I know they have an analog delay, a digital delay, and a digital
    delay/sampler. Another neat Boss pedal is the new RV2 digital reverb
    pedal. To my knowledge this is the only Boss stomp box pedal that
    cannot run on batteries. The digital chips inside draw too much
    current to have any kind of reasonable battery life. The delay in these
    units is kind of limited, but the reverb is real clean and spacious.
                                
    While you are in New England you should pick up a Want Advertizer
    (any corner store should carry it), and look through the musical
    accessories section for package deals on Boss carry boxes full
    of effects. 
    
    Mark