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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1042.0. "FENDER SUPER REVERB PRICE ?" by BPOV02::M_CLEMENT () Tue Dec 27 1988 20:00

    Can anyone tell me what a Fender Super Reverb Amp is worth.
         
    This is the same head as the Fender Twin Reverb but the
    twin only has 2 12" spkrs, this one has 4 10" spkrs.
    
    I am going to be selling mine very soon, and would like some
    opinions on price.
    
    I am not sure of the year of the amp, probably early 70s,
    silverface.
    
    45 watts RMS, 2 channels each with 2 inputs, 4 Fender 10" spkrs.
                         
    mint condition.  has original manual and schematics, and a
    non-Fender cover.
    
    Plays great, used it for jamming with the men.
    
    I will be replacing it with a keyboard amp soon.
    
    Thanks, Mark.
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1042.1SUPER <> TWINASHBY::BEFUMOI may get older but I refuse to grow upWed Dec 28 1988 10:289
    First of all, the super is the same head as the PRO-reverb - the
    twin is roughly twice the power.  Personally, I'd choose a super-reverb
    over just about any other non-vintage fender amp.  For what it's
    worth, Daddy's in Nashua has a used master-volume super for $325.,
    bit it's not one of the best examples I've seen (needs tubes, and
    not one of fender's best years).  In their recent "Amp issue", "Guitar
    Player" magazine lists the going rate for Super Reverbs as $200.
    to $400., which, if the local want ads are any indication, is probably
    pretty accurate.
1042.2re. -1, your right...BPOV02::M_CLEMENTWed Dec 28 1988 11:5211
    Yes I did make a mistake.  It is the same head as the PRO-Reverb.
    
    I realized that after I got home last nite and pulled out the owners 
    manual.  I was then sure someone would correct the comparison.
    
    Anyways thanks for your feedback.  Considering it is in mint condition,
    needs nothing, and is a screaming amp, I am probably going to ask
    $375/BO.  I'll be placing it up for sale as soon as I get my keyboard
    amp.  
    
    Mark.
1042.3MUCH better than a PROROLL::BEFUMOI may get older but I refuse to grow upWed Dec 28 1988 12:046
    I had a Pro-reverb which I recently sold because . . . come to think
    of it, I don't know WHY I sold it - seemed like a good idea at the
    time.  Anyway, it sounded nice, but never quite as good as a Super.
    I just LOVE 10's for guitar.
    
    joe-who-never-should-have-sold-his-marshall-6X10-cabinet
1042.4DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDEveryday I got the bluesWed Dec 28 1988 12:195
    these make great amps for blues harp..Doug used to use his all the
    time, the 10 inch speakers scream when driven by a green bullet
    and a good bluesman....
    
    dbii
1042.5definitely a screamerBUSY::JMINVILLEThe thrill is goneWed Dec 28 1988 15:052
    I saw a blues guitar player using a Super with a Les Paul out in
    Northampton once.  Wicked sound and sustain a la Carlos Santana.
1042.6what to do ???BPOV04::M_CLEMENTThu Dec 29 1988 12:3016
    Ayup, you guys are all right.  I bought it from a harp player some
    years ago.  
    
    You guys are making me reconsider selling it with all this praise.
    
    Maybe I should keep the super for my SG, and still get a keyboard
    amp for my Korg DW-8000.  I was going to just use the keyboard amp
    for both guitar and keys...  But I'll probably never get that sound
    for my guitar again...???  Anyhow it always come down to the same
    old dilemma, how much equipment do I REALLY need to have around.
    I refuse to jam or gig my keyboard on a guitar amp, I don't believe
    in it, it will ruin the amp.  Thats why I NEVER let someone plug
    in their bass or keyboard into my guitar amp at a jam.  However
    I have no problem pluging a guitar into a bass or keyboard amp.
    
    Mark.
1042.7Fender Super ReverbFRETZ::HEISERelectric warrior, acoustic saintMon Apr 27 1992 14:0713
    I obtained one of these this weekend and have some questions about it.
    
    - This may sound dumb, but it's like this in the world of tape decks:
      Does the reverb unit input cable go to the reverb input jack on the
      amp or vice versa?
    
    - I haven't gotten mine working yet (I think it needs new tubes).  Does
      this amp have 2 channels?
    
    Any other info would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    Mike
1042.8RICKS::ROSTThe Creator has a master planMon Apr 27 1992 14:284
    Yes, a Super has two channels but they run in parallel.  Only the
    second channel gets reverb or tremelo.  
    
    							Brian
1042.9New Fender 4x10" Super... I really need this amp!WEDOIT::ABATELLIWed Jan 26 1994 12:0525
    Hi there!
      I checked out the latest version of the Fender Super 4x10" amp last
    night and fell in love with it. I hate it when that happens because now 
    I feel a need to sell my MESABoogie to buy one of these! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    	All tube (tube reverb too)
    	60 watts (8 ohms)
    	4-10" Vintage "blue" w/Alnico magnets
    	2 channels (w/clean and 2 stage overdrive, like having 3 channels)
    	Independent tone controls per channel
    	Reverb on both channels too!
        Tilt back legs
    
    	Only bad thang? NO TREMOLO!  Dang!
    	
    Has anyone else tried one of these new SUPER puppies out yet? Comments?
    A little heavy in weight (65 lbs), but somehow I can overlook that 
    ;^).
    
    	GTS has hit me...  HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    		Rock on,
    			 Fred
    
1042.10LEDS::ORSISo I re-wired it!Wed Jan 26 1994 12:5611
     Fred,

     How many bucks is New Fender 4x10" Super?

     >I really need this amp

     Uh yeah......me too. %^)

     Neal

1042.12HEY! THIS IS AMERICA! I'm allowed to change my mind!WEDOIT::ABATELLIWed Jan 26 1994 17:2615
    RE: .11
    
    	True, I was disappointed that this SUPER wasn't a "reissue", but it
    was just sitting there, so why not try it? I didn't expect it to sound 
    as good as it did (to my ears). This new Fender has alot more to offer
    in the way of a more modern tone, but no way is it a reissue! It's just
    another great sounding amp. If there was a real reissue Super Reverb...  
    I'd probably be going "gah gah" over it! 
    
    	Guess the real deal here is that we all need to hear an amp before 
    declaring it unworthy of existence.
    
    
    		Have a nice day,
    				Fred
1042.13Problem with the Super Reverb :^(FABSIX::E_PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Sat Apr 26 1997 11:2926
    Okay, a question for you toob experts.....
    
    I've got a problem with my wife's mid-70s Super Reverb.  It was
    overhauled back in December (new tubes, new reverb tank, two speakers
    replaced) and sounded great when I got it back.  But at a gig last
    week, something "changed" in the sound of the amp:  After a couple hours 
    of playing, the low notes (mostly the A and E strings) would sound 
    distorted at relatively low volumes (I play country music - no snide
    remarks, please!) while the upper strings would sound mostly OK.  It 
    doesn't sound anything like the "overdriven tube" sound I know; it sounds
    quite ratty.  It's got me pretty bothered because that amp has been
    able to sound very clean at club volumes for the past 4 months.
    
    I tried it again last night; the amp sounded OK while setting up, but
    as soon as the full band started playing, the same distortion began
    almost immediately this time.
    
    A friend of mine told me that the 6L6 power tubes were probably not
    "matched" when installed, and that this is causing one of them to
    prematurely die out.  Does this sound like a reasonable guess? Should
    I look around for a matched set, anyway?  What would youze toob guys
    suggest that I do?
    
    Help!
    
    		      				--Eric--
1042.14KDX200::COOPERThere is no TRY - DO or DO NOT!Sat Apr 26 1997 19:303
    Hmmm - Are you using a wireless ??  Sounds like a dead battery.
    
    Just a swag...
1042.15NQOS01::donip10.ogo.dec.com::Workbench UserSun Apr 27 1997 01:3611
does sound like the tubes are sagging...

Maybe they're just a little weak..

I'd have them checked (tubes that is..)

and what the hells wrong with playin country ?
pays better than the rock gigs, and the crowds are nicer
to work for.


1042.16Call Dr. Neal!MILKWY::JACQUESMon Apr 28 1997 11:294
    If you can't get the amp fixed on your own, call Neal Orsi. (That is if
    you are close to Worcester, Ma). 508-792-2944.
    
	Mark
1042.17\WEDOIT::ABATELLIMon Apr 28 1997 11:4612
    Watch the tubes when you are playing at "gig" volume (at home) and hit 
    a few low notes. Does one of your power tubes glow bright? It happened 
    to me on my Fender as well and it was a faulty tube. Just a thought...
    although it could also be a speaker that you didn't replace. Also
    are you using any effects? With the tube test above plug straight
    into the amp without any effects and try it out.
    
    Let us know what you find OK?
    
                                    
    	Good luck,
    		  Fred
1042.18NQOS01::donip10.ogo.dec.com::Workbench UserMon Apr 28 1997 12:476
I'll second Mark's recomendation for Neil..  I had a quirk with
my amp, and Neil set it straight in about 20 minutes...

he da man!


1042.19NEWVAX::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPMon Apr 28 1997 13:0113
So who is this strange person named "Workbench User"?  :-)

-Hal

       <<< Note 1042.18 by NQOS01::donip10.ogo.dec.com::Workbench User >>>

I'll second Mark's recomendation for Neil..  I had a quirk with
my amp, and Neil set it straight in about 20 minutes...

he da man!



1042.20EVER::GOODWINMon Apr 28 1997 13:566
    re -1
    
    workbench user...   the noting style is unmistakeable...
    the one, the only...  Raymond G(uitar) Pelkster!
    
    /Steve
1042.21NQOS01::16.124.40.194::Workbench UserTue Apr 29 1997 16:353
it's the pelksta.,, me,, dats right. gotta fix that...


1042.22NQOS01::16.124.40.194::Ray PelkeyProfessional HombreTue Apr 29 1997 16:362
how's this!

1042.23NEWVAX::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPTue Apr 29 1997 17:387
re: <<< Note 1042.22 by NQOS01::16.124.40.194::Ray Pelkey "Professional Hombre" >>>

> how's this!

Much better! :-)

-Hal
1042.24I'm off to see the Doctor!FABSIX::E_PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Wed Apr 30 1997 12:0313
    Re. all the replies
    
    Thanks guys.  Sorry I couldn't reply right away but Sunday thru Tuesday
    are my days off ;^)
    
    I'm calling Dr. Neal as soon as I finish writing this note; it looks
    like he'll be my best bet!  
    
    I think I can eliminate the FX and speakers as causes; doubly so with
    the wireless 'cos I ain't got one ;^) but I gotta say -- the people in
    GUTARS are the *best* for advice.  Youse guys rooool!!!!!
    
    					--Eric--
1042.25ASABET::ogodhcp-124-40-129.ogo.dec.com::pelkeyProfessional HombreWed Apr 30 1997 12:424
yea, and it's free advice too,, sometimes we win, sometimes
we loose...

/pelksta.
1042.26Neal's da man!FABSIX::E_PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Wed May 28 1997 11:1417
    Update on .13
    
    Neal went through the amp a couple weeks ago; he found a few loose
    solder connections, nothing really serious.  At his recommendation, 
    he replaced several a the capacitors (a standard mod for Fenders) and
    adjusted the tube bias to pre-CBS standards.  
    
    I played the amp for a set the Sunday before last and it sounded great.
    For the acid test, last weekend I had two full-length gigs; one on
    Saturday and one on Sunday.  The Fender has never sounded better!
    
    Dr. Neal, my hat's off to you for a magnificent job!
    
    						--Eric--
    
    P.S. I have a friend in the New England Country Music Club who needs
    to have an amp or two fixed.  Guess where I'm sending him... 8^)
1042.27AOSG::wolf95.zk3.dec.com::pbeckPaul Beck at pbeck@zk3.dec.comWed May 28 1997 11:354
>    P.S. I have a friend in the New England Country Music Club who needs
>    to have an amp or two fixed.  Guess where I'm sending him... 8^)

Uh ... Nashville?
1042.28ASABET::pelkey.ogo.dec.com::pelkeylife aint for the squeamishWed May 28 1997 13:268
Spoke with neil last week,, he tells me he's getting out
of it,, cleaning up some loose ends, and packing it in..

Too bad,, he's been a big help to so many of us...

sigh...

/pelks
1042.29Don't leave us, Dr. Neal!!!FABSIX::E_PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Wed May 28 1997 15:0710
    Re. .28
    
    Say it ain't so ... now *I'm* bummin' .... :^(
    
    Glad I connected with Neal before he closed his doors, tho....
    
    Okay, hypothetical question.  I still would like to have a good repair
    person to recommend.  If not Neal, then whom?  Suggestions, any one?
    
    						--Eric--
1042.30ASABET::pelkey.ogo.dec.com::pelkeylife aint for the squeamishWed May 28 1997 16:579
yep, this seems to be the case,,  I spoke with him
about a week ago regarding a Peavey XMT1200 board that
(the one and only) Edd Cote gave me, (in need of minor
repairs at that)...

So called Neal, he said, "Love to help, but...."

I guess the day gig and other interests are just keeping
him away from his amp repair work (for now anyway..)