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| 965.1 | Where sold? | SQUID::GOODWIN | | Fri Nov 04 1988 18:54 | 2 |
| Your description makes me want to hear one too, where did you try
it out?
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| 965.2 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | | Fri Nov 04 1988 18:59 | 3 |
| I tried this one out at Hamel Music in Chelmsford MA
/rick
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| 965.3 | | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I feel an election coming up | Fri Nov 04 1988 19:09 | 1 |
| I've seen em but not played em. They come in tweed also.
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| 965.4 | Yeah, but HOW MANY $ ? | MAAFA1::WYOUNG | Yow! Lemme outta here! | Sun Nov 06 1988 17:32 | 1 |
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| 965.5 | Bedrock 4x10 Combo | SQUID::GOODWIN | | Wed May 24 1989 18:33 | 20 |
| I recently test drove the Bedrock 4x10 50 watt combo amp.
Thought I'd provide a few details about it.
Controls were volume w/ pull mid boost, master, treble, middle,
bass, presence, reverb.
Power tubes are 2 6ca7's. Speakers are 4 celestion g10s50's.
The amp has a nice overall sound and is quite loud.
IMO, it's very Marshall-like. I had hoped that the 4x10
open back configuration would provide something like a
Fender Super Reverb sound - it doesn't. But that's just
my preference. One thing I didn't like was that onset
of distortion occured at volume level 2 (and up). There
was not much 'clean' headroom at all. Price seemed to
me to be a bit high - $965.00. I wasn't interested in
buying it, so I didn't haggle at all. I don't know if
it's available for less elsewhere, or if Hamel Music in
Chelmsford would be flexible on price.
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| 965.6 | Guitar Player Likes the 1202 Combo | AQUA::ROST | Chickens don't take the day off | Fri Sep 15 1989 19:45 | 12 |
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Bedrock seems to finally be trying to go for the big time. You may
have seen their recent ad campaign with Earl "I'll endorse anything" Slick
and now they have gotten a complimentary review from GP's David Hicks
for their 1202 model (2-12 50 watt combo).
Hicks says the amp has that "vintage" sound by going for a
low-gain preamp and getting the dirt from the power stage instead.
Tubes are EL34s, speakers by Celestion. List price....$1295. Does
this sound somewhat familiar (see note #1361 on THD amps)?
Brian
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| 965.15 | less is more IMHO | CAVLRY::BUCK | Just call me Mister Twister! | Fri Feb 22 1991 14:00 | 14 |
| RE: MP-1 programming.
NO THANK YOU! What s*cked about the MP-1 is I'd spend HOURS in my
basement making/perfecting patches for this, that, and the other thing.
Then I'd get to a gig, in a funky hall with lousy acoustics, and I'd be
editing ptches at SOUNDCHECK!! Bleck...or, even mid set! Try
programming a quadraverb AND Mp-1 bettwen tunes (believe me, it's an
art!). If people wanna do that, or hire someone to do it for em...all
the more power to em.
For me, I like having 8 knobs and no more to 'fool' with on my
Marshall...need more presense...ya turn the knob...not "press edit,
press pres, pres up, ooops, too far, press down, press store twice"
You can HAVE it!
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| 965.16 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | WIN/WIN - Pick one ! | Fri Feb 22 1991 14:07 | 9 |
| One thing I've learned from doing a lot of live gigs, is that unless
you blow a speaker, small tonal changes get lost in the mix. If you're
in the ball park, the sound man can take care of the rest. For
recording it would be a lot different.
My rig suits my purposes, as should everyone's ...
Scary
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| 965.17 | Yeah cute P_name huh Scary 8*) | NEEPS::IRVINE | I feel the need: The need to breed | Fri Feb 22 1991 14:26 | 11 |
| The whole point of getting `Your Sound' to me is to make me feel
comfortable. If (as happened last Sunday) I am playing in front
of an audience without the benifit of a sound check (ain't time
a b*tch), I hate the sound and can never really get into the gig!
I should point out that only the Vocals were thro' the PA. USed
the Backline for everything else.....
Just an opinion
Bonzo
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| 965.7 | Bedrock heard in Co. Springs | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Stereotype, monotype, blood type... | Mon Mar 25 1991 18:13 | 8 |
| Coop and I saw a guy playing a Bedrock head (through a Carvin 4x12) a
couple of weeks ago and I really liked his tone. It was sweet but with
a nice distortion bite to it.
Is Bedrock still in business? I haven't heard much about them
recently.
Greg
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| 965.8 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | The rabbit in red, danananananana, the rabbit in red | Mon Mar 25 1991 18:16 | 4 |
| Bedrock is going under, if they haven't already. Their 1400 series,
which was supposed to compete with the M1000s, JCM 900s, Boogie
MK IVs of the world, didn't! Bedrock can be had around here for
CHEAP!
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| 965.9 | | GSRC::COOPER | Major MIDI Rack Puke (tm) | Mon Mar 25 1991 18:27 | 13 |
| Greg/Buck,
I met that guy down at Rice the other day. He ordered that head from
the factory about 6 months ago for ~$800. He didn't mention that the
company was going away (fwiw). He just picked up another 4x12 for his
rig of doom the other day. Also fwiw, he said he'd traded his JCM800
in for it. Said he thought the Bedrock was the best amp he'd ever had.
I thought his tone was excellent. It was tight as a drum and punchy.
I think a lot of that can be attributed to his style, and his axe (a
PRS).
jc (who thought that band rocked)
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| 965.10 | whole half! | CAVLRY::BUCK | The rabbit in red, danananananana, the rabbit in red | Mon Mar 25 1991 18:31 | 1 |
| There is a Bedrock 1400 half-stack for sale in NH for $700!
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| 965.11 | | GSRC::COOPER | Major MIDI Rack Puke (tm) | Mon Mar 25 1991 18:32 | 3 |
| BTW - it was a 50 watt head. Single channel with a "boost" button.
jc
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| 965.12 | FWIW | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Stereotype, monotype, blood type... | Mon Mar 25 1991 18:55 | 4 |
| Kind of off the subject, but Steve says that he knows that guy.
Apparently his father is or was a DECcie.
Greg
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| 965.13 | Hmmmm | SMURF::BENNETT | I'd rather be flailing | Mon Mar 25 1991 19:52 | 7 |
|
Bedrock just updated their line to include new 1600 series
models. For what it's worth, they're in Nashua near the corner
of Elm and W. Hollis at 58 Elm. I hadn't heard they were going
under....
ccb
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| 965.14 | | FREEBE::REAUME | Coast to Coaster | Tue Mar 26 1991 13:17 | 15 |
| Don't worry youse guys - It will only go under if I buy one!
Look at my track record! I buy into major Kitty Hawk investment
land and then they are outta the country. Guess I can still FAX to
Germany (I should check into it!). I order a custom B.C. Rich USA
made Strat-from-hell and they sell the rights to the BC name to the
importers of cheaper guitars (and mine cost >$1200).
Another one: Metaltronix! POOF!
What else? Oh yeah - my Buick Reatta is going out of production this
year, but I still love my car! And at least Buick is still around to
support it.
AND I was *smart* enough to buy a Digital Rainbow 100 back in 1983
under the Employee Purchase Program. I actually got $900 for it two
years later (and bought my ST!).
-=B()()M=-
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| 965.18 | from the, town of Bedrock | RAVEN1::BLAIR | Need a hot tune and a cold one | Thu Jul 25 1991 16:30 | 8 |
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Has anybody test driven the new Bedrock 1600 combo yet? All tube,
50 or 100w, 2 channels with rhythm/lead switching on each, separate
reverb/presence/eq on each channel, hi/lo effects loop, 1 x 12
speaker, and a 3 button foot switch for channel switching/lead &
rhythm/reverb. It also has this kind of Neandrethal look with the
stove top dials and plain jane toggle switches (on/off & standby).
What is the scoop on Bedrock products?
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| 965.19 | | FREEBE::REAUME | C.I. CYCLONE X UNLIMITED | Thu Jul 25 1991 17:30 | 14 |
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Hey Pat - I thought there was a Bedrock topic but nothing shows
up on a search (like you didn't already try that?). I tried Bedrock
back in 1988 when I bought my first Kitty Hawk M3, and I could've saved
a lot if I'd waited on the KH gear! I was fairly impressed with the
Bedrock. They are all tube, built in Nashua, NH. I remember their first
big endorser was Joe Perry. Maybe you should start a topic?
I know their first 1400 series were geared toward the Fender Bassman
4X10 type of sound. Then they made more of a Heavy Metal kind of amp.
(1500 maybe). The 1600 is their latest and I really don't know much
more because no one in my area carries them!c
-B()()M-
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| 965.20 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | tear down the walls | Thu Jul 25 1991 17:40 | 6 |
| -1
I thought there was a topic too. Mods, pls move the notes into their
respective Bedrock Amplificati0n topic.
thanks
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| 965.21 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I wanna be sedated! | Sat Jul 27 1991 21:52 | 8 |
| Pat, check out some of the early replies, but I heard a guy playing a
Bedrock awhile back and it sounded absolutely wonderful! A really cool
sounding amp...
He was playing in a kind of "hard-alternative" rock band. Worked good
in that context.
Greg
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| 965.22 | | RAVEN1::BLAIR | Need a hot tune and a cold one | Fri Aug 02 1991 13:50 | 7 |
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I am very intrigued by this amp. For some reason, the set-up
(2 rows of controls), separate 'verb and tube power plant really
appeals to me. Has anyobe sen the ad in GP this month? I may
check around town whilst in BTO.
-pat
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| 965.23 | New mfg site for Bedrock Amps | VSSCAD::LANGE | | Wed Mar 11 1992 14:37 | 8 |
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Just a bit of info on the status of Bedrock. They're now making amps
in a new location in Southboro, Ma. They're located on Rt 9 just east
of Rt 495 across from the Data General plant. This info is legit as a
friend of mine works there.
Bob
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| 965.24 | | CSLALL::MCLEMENT | You are not alone | Thu Mar 12 1992 08:50 | 7 |
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Hey, i'll bet that Bedrock Amps will be the next project for
Lee Jackson.............
MC
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| 965.25 | | LUNER::ABATELLI | Who knew? | Thu Sep 10 1992 15:50 | 15 |
| I have a friend of mine "seriously" looking into the 75 watt (Vox look
alike) model who loves it! Tube tremolo, great sounding reverb, great
tone from what he says... although the price ~$800.00 seemed alittle
high for a 75 watt amp to him. $800.00 is alot of money, but everything
is expensive out there in tube-amp-land! I told him to buy it so I
could try it out. ;^)
If you see my Mesa MK-2c 1/2stack for sale, you'll know why!
Rock on,
Fred
P.S. I must admit... I am curious about this 75watt Bedrock... then
again, maybe I'll wait for the Fender Super Reverb re-issues to
come out.
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| 965.26 | Not really that bad for a high calibre amp | GOES11::G_HOUSE | All over but the shouting | Thu Sep 10 1992 16:04 | 6 |
| You're right about tube amp prices being high. $800 seems about
average to below average for a good tube 2x12 combo these days. You
priced out a "The Twin", Marshall, or Mesa/Boogie these days? Not to
mention stuff like THD, or other "custom" amps that are outta control!
Greg
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| 965.27 | 75 watts? huh | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Thu Sep 10 1992 18:40 | 5 |
| re Fred.....
whispering....."Wait for the Super"
X1000 :^)
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| 965.28 | But HONEY... it only cost $800.00!!!!! ;^} | LUNER::ABATELLI | Who knew? | Mon Sep 14 1992 13:22 | 8 |
| A friend of mine purchased the (Vox AC30 look-alike) Bedrock 75 watt
2x12" combo this past weekend and he can't stop gloating about it!
I'll be tring it out this week (maybe I'll even get "db" to try it out
as well), so either I or Dave Blickstein will place the review
afterwards.
Rock on,
Fred
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| 965.29 | Alright! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | All over but the shouting | Mon Sep 14 1992 13:50 | 5 |
| Fred, I'd be real interested in hearing a review of the Bedrock (either
yours, db's, or both). I've only heard one of 'em and I thought it
sounded great!
Greg
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| 965.30 | | MARX::SAKELARIS | | Mon Sep 14 1992 13:55 | 9 |
| Hi Fred. I too would be interested. But if you'd contrast it to, say
your Boogie or the PV, that'd be great.
Myself, I don't see what the fuss is all about for VOX. As a kid i
dreamed of stuff like a Super Beatle, but at that time I had a Sears
Sivertone with the amp built into the case.
"sakman"
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| 965.31 | Vox mystique = AC-30TB | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Mon Sep 14 1992 14:15 | 15 |
| re: .30
The Vox mystique seems to revolve around one particular model they
used to make that several top players made some recordings with.
It's the AC-30 TB (top boost). Notably, Jeff Beck used this amp
on Beck's Bolero (Truth LP) to give you and idea what it sounds like.
George Harrison used on with the Beatles too (not a Vox super beatle).
The AC-30 was all tube, class A triode, so it easily got that creamy
'vintage' style distortion that everyone raves about.
Regarding the Bedrock, I'd be interested too, as I tried one of their
4x10 combos awhile back that was purported to sound like a pre-CBS
Super Reverb. IMHO it sounded more like a Marshall than a Fender.
/Steve
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| 965.33 | | KDX200::COOPER | I even use TONE soap !! | Mon Sep 14 1992 15:06 | 4 |
| I bet the BedRock Greg has heard is the same fellow I heard (funny eh ?).
Whats a RIPPIN' sound. I was impressed as hell!
jc
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| 965.34 | WIIIIIILLLLLMMMMMAAA! | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Toy Syndrome Addict | Mon Sep 14 1992 15:14 | 7 |
| Does Bedrock give their amps model names? Think of the
possibilities...
The 100 watter could be called "The Bam Bam", the practice amp "Dino",
etc....
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| 965.35 | | LUNER::ABATELLI | Who knew? | Mon Sep 14 1992 15:29 | 14 |
| RE: .30
I was thinking of bringing my MX *and* my Boogie down to A/B them both
against this Bedrock. Alot of amps "alone" can sound killer, but
sometimes to A/B them against a known tone can be more enlighting.
Either that, or you'll see me selling off both my MX and my Mesa
1/2 stack for one of those Bedrock puppies!
Kinda funny actually... Fred with his Bedrock? What a riot... I
should get one "just for the name". HEY WILMA! ;^)
Rock on (excuse the pun),
Fred (you know... Barnie's friend)
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| 965.36 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | All over but the shouting | Mon Sep 14 1992 16:04 | 15 |
| >I bet the BedRock Greg has heard is the same fellow I heard (funny eh ?).
Not too surprising, since we were together at the time... ;^)
And yeah, I thought it sounded more like a Marshall then a Vox.
> Alot of amps "alone" can sound killer, but sometimes to A/B them
> against a known tone can be more enlighting.
Definately true. A lot of amps sound great by themselves, but just
don't work well with the other music in a band. I'd rather hear an amp
with other instruments rather then by itself, even if I have another
amp that I'm familiar with there to compare it to.
Greg
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| 965.37 | | KDX200::COOPER | I even use TONE soap !! | Mon Sep 14 1992 18:16 | 4 |
| I don't know if that fellows Bedrock sounded like a Marshall or
a Vox...But I know it ripped ! I might even venture to say that
it sounded similar to both, but it definately had tone for days,
and fit that kids style to a T!
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| 965.38 | | DABEAN::REAUME | perfectly<==>connected | Mon Sep 14 1992 21:48 | 5 |
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EXXXXCUUSE ME! -=- Is this the new Kitty Hawk topic?
-{B}-
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| 965.39 | ;^) | GOES11::G_HOUSE | All over but the shouting | Mon Sep 14 1992 21:56 | 1 |
| Naw, Bedrock's still in business...
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| 965.40 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Tue Sep 15 1992 09:30 | 11 |
| 1st off: The Vox AC30 TBR is not class-A triode. Look at the
schematics. IF it was, it would be 20 watts. Not 40. It is Class-A
triode UNTILL the output tubes, then it's Class-A Penthode (sp?).
The Bedrock is NOT a AC30 clone. It does have a nice tone, and alot of
guts. They are one of the most underated amps around, and right here
in central Mass to boot. Nice guys, tell 'em I sent ya, and ya read
about them in Digital Notes.
Jay Tashjian
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| 965.41 | | LUNER::ABATELLI | Who knew? | Tue Sep 15 1992 12:26 | 20 |
| <<< Note 965.38 by DABEAN::REAUME "perfectly<==>connected" >>>
EXXXXCUUSE ME! -=- Is this the new Kitty Hawk topic?
-{B}-
*************************************************************************
KittyHawk? Who mentioned KH?
BTW, if there was any confusion comparing Bedrock to Vox I'm sorry
about that, but since I didn't know what model types they have, I
noticed that this Bedrock amp "looked" (from the outside) like the
old Vox. I didn't mean to make anyone think that it was internally
a Vox clone.
So sorry...
Fred
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| 965.42 | Not exactly a clone | KALI::HERTZBERG | History: Love it or Leave it! | Tue Sep 15 1992 14:22 | 7 |
| It does look exactly like an AC30. Same dimensions exactly, same three
handles on top, even a strikingly similar grille material. I read
their literature on the amp and they were making comparasons between
their amp and AC30s, as if they kept all the good stuff from the Voxes
and added lotsa modern good stuff. Haven't heard it, myself, though.
Marc
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| 965.43 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Tue Sep 22 1992 10:01 | 12 |
| It's really NOT a AC30'ish amp. I THINK they may try a exact
clone in the near future. I hope so, as the old VOX sounded great,
but fell apart. AND Bedrock is the company to build them right.
As for KH, I just worked on one for a fellow 'noter', and I never
saw (in years anyway, not since the times of WEST & PLUSH) such
a poorly put together hunk of crap. It took me hours to get it
stable. Seems the final units from LP were put together by monkeys,
and ones that can't solder to boot.
Jay Tashjian
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| 965.44 | | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Tue Sep 22 1992 14:15 | 9 |
| Why would bedrock bother to put a Marshall knock-off in
vox ac-30 clothing???
... just curious
And I dunno, if I wanted an amp that sounds like a Marshall,
I'd probably just buy a Marshall.
/Steve
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| 965.45 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Low self opinion | Tue Sep 22 1992 14:27 | 5 |
| Just curious Jay, what kind of KH did you work on? I looked into a
Quattro once and thought it looked pretty cheezy, but I didn't think my
M3 head looked so bad.
Greg
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| 965.46 | | KDX200::COOPER | I even use TONE soap !! | Tue Sep 22 1992 16:13 | 4 |
| I had an M# and a QT, and I agree - they were pretty poor on workmanship...
especially with the price tags they had!
jc
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| 965.47 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Wed Sep 23 1992 10:14 | 9 |
| I've worked on M1/M3/and the preamps, they all (I DID see a few QT's
that were made well) "bit the big one"...see my reply under the KH
file.
The Bedrock AC30 look-a-like is really a cross between a AC30, and
a 50 watt Marshall. It's a nice mix.
Jay
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| 965.48 | Here's the scoop! | LUNER::ABATELLI | Who knew? | Thu Oct 15 1992 08:54 | 48 |
| Well kids, I tried the Bedrock/Vox "look-a-like" last night at
Harvey's Music in Milford, NH. Cool amp!
The clean channel sounds really sweet, very nice reverb with alittle
more "delay" than what I'm used to hearing... nice touch. The grille
cloth looks like a AC30 and from what I'm told there was a bit of a
problem with VOX over this so Bedrock will change the cloth and the
total grille design. I don't know if this change in newer models will
increase the value of the old VOX looking Bedrocks, but it's food for
thought. Anyway, the EQ was nice sounding and it was hard to get a bad
sound out of the clean channel. Pull bright, presence, bass, treble,
mid, pregain, postgain, tremolo speed, tremolo depth (this sounded cool
and made me start playing surfer tunes ;^). The overdrive channel
is NOT a dial-in type. You simply hit the footswitch and take whatever
Bedrock gives you. I don't like this feature at all! While it's not a
bad tone, you need to adjust your pregain and postgain dials carefully
in order to get the tone you're looking for. Bedrock states that the
overdrive is very Boogie-ish... NOT!!!!! While it's not bad, it left
me wanting more in the overdrive channel. The list is ~$1200. so take
that price for what it's worth as far as "real selling price". The
package is "beautiful" however, but it's alittle heavey at ~70lbs for the
2-12" combo. I don't know what the AC30TB would sound like next to it, but
this amp all alone is a beautiful sounding (in the clean channel),
beautiful looking amp... really cool! The overdrive channel I'm sure
could be tweeked in, but with the time allowed I sat and enjoyed the
clean channel playing SRV and Beach Boys tunes ;^).
Anyone looking to check this unit out can find one at Harvey's Music
in Milford, NH. Harvey said he "might" sell it (since he bought it
for himself originally). Will he? I dunno... in any case you can
still check it out at his store if you want, or call him at
(603)-673-8245 and talk to him about it if you want straight "honest"
answers without the salesman pitch.
How doesn it compare to my PV-MX/EV combo? It has more available EQ
than the PV and is more articulate. The clean channel sounded like
my Boogie (it's hard to say which one I liked better), but the over-
drive channel on the Boogie ripped the Bedrock apart. Remember that
the Bedrock was not designed to make mincemeat out of a Boogie. Again
listen to this amp as great sounding (Fenderish) clean amp with a
better overdrive than Fender could ever amagine and for a better price
than alot of the reissues out there. If that's what you're looking for,
then this amp may be for you, but if you're looking for a real shreader
with plenty of midrange boost and intense overdrive... look for
something else.
Rock on,
Fred
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| 965.49 | Wow, I played that amp last week... | SMURF::BENNETT | Smile a little smile for me | Mon Oct 19 1992 15:16 | 7 |
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Not bad, but a tad expensive. Clean sounds pretty much like
my fender, distortion sound comprable to that found on the
Fender Super 60/112/210 or the Peavey Classic amps and every
bit as flexible ;-). It looked decent, the top handles were a
nice touch. For that kind of money, I'd be inclined to by a
Marshall 4100 2x12 combo.
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| 965.50 | Try the BC-75 | LEDS::ORSI | Stimpy's Magic Nose Goblins | Fri Oct 23 1992 01:20 | 21 |
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I first heard about "the Bedrock that looks like an AC30" here
in notes and forgot about it until a month ago when I was at Kurlans'
Music in Worcester and they had two of them. Both the amps were BC-75s.
One new for ~$900, the other used, but mint, for $650. I aired out the
used one with a flametop Hamer for ~10 minutes. It was wonderful. It only
looks like a Vox AC30. It sounded like Marshall meets Fender meets Vox. The
Bedrock guy left a list for settings like "Sparkling AC30" and "Brown
Marshall". I tried them all and I was really impressed. It was exactly
what I was looking for. Great tube tremolo like an old Fender, EL34's
like a Marshall, and a pull treble pot that boosts it like an AC30.
I left, but couldn't stop thinking about it. I went back last Saturday
with my LP and Strat and aired it out again. This time I left the
store with it. I paid $600 for it.
BTW, I got a Manny's catalog today and they're getting $770 for
a new one.
Neal
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