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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

831.0. "'68 Strat Reissue- Comments?" by PARITY::SZABO (Merrimack College, Class of 1992!) Thu Sep 08 1988 16:17

    Yesterday, I checked-out different model Strats, one of which I
    have a strong desire to buy-> a cream colored '68 reissue.  Since
    I'm just now getting back my interest and enthusiasm for playing
    the guitar (after almost 20 years of barely picking one up), I have
    no idea what I'm doing in trying to choose something.  I suppose
    I'm off to a good start in choosing the color I'd like to have!
    Especially confusing to me is the '68 reissue Strat vs. a 1988 
    standard Strat in that, do I want one that's supposed to sound like
    a classic, or do I want one with the latest technology?  Is the
    '68 reissue, which is supposedly a limited edition, worth it for
    the money, in other words, will it be as or more valuable than an
    '88 standard 20 or 30 years from now?
    
    I realize that my questions are relative to one's tastes and
    perception, and there will be many different opinions, but I'd like
    to know what you people think.  What would you do?
    
    Here's a little background about me and why I'm suddenly interested.
    I took 3 years of serious lessons back in the late 60's (roughly
    5th-8th grades), played in several grade school bands, you know,
    and was well on my way to becoming real good.  Well, things fell
    about because my teacher of 3 years decided to get married and move
    on.  I was destroyed because he was really cool and I didn't want
    to look for anyone else.  Also around that time, high school came
    and so did different friends as well as different interests.  Needless
    to say, my interest in the guitar was buried.  For many years now,
    I've contemplated resurrecting my guitar and my past skills and
    making a go of it.  I've realized that the time has come, especially
    since my 7 year old daughter is learning to play the piano, and
    is doing extremely well.  My 4 year old son seems very interested
    in music also, and has expressed a desire for the guitar.  I want
    to be a musical influence, if you will, for both of them, and I
    want to do it for myself so, it's now or never......
    
    So, why a Strat?  Well, I'm not familiar with all the guitars out
    there, and the Strat's a familiar name to me.  Besides, back in
    the 60's, I've always had a strong desire to own a Fender guitar,
    namely the Mustang, but never had the cash.  (I don't have the cash
    now either, but I can work on it!)  Also, I'd want something that
    I'd really like to "re-learn" how to play on, and I think it's a
    Strat.  And I'm looking for advice.  Oh yeah, I'm having Fred A.
    from this notesfile demo a '68 reissue and others for me tomorrow,
    thanks Fred, but I'd also very much appreciate other input.
    
    And finally, I'd like to plug a local (to me) music store for it's
    friendly and courteous service, including it's willingness to let
    me try anything even though I mentioned how inexperienced I was.
    It's the Music Workshop in Salem,NH.  I've walked into several other
    music stores lately, and all of them made me feel unwanted, especially
    that one down the road from Music Workshop.  I don't know if I could
    get a better deal anywhere else, and I almost don't care because
    these people are great.
    
    Enough ramlblin' on.  Any comments?  Thanks in advance.
    
    John
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831.168?SCOMAN::WCLARKI'm too fast to play coolThu Sep 08 1988 17:228
    Are you sure it was a '68 re-issue and not a '62? Fender has
    been making reissues of the '57 and '62 strats for a while;
    they are generally thought of as excellent instruments. I
    never heard of a '68 reissue. Also, you can get a really
    GOOD Squire Strat (also made by Fender) for about half of
    what the reissue costs.
    
    -Dave
831.2Check out used onesVOLKS::RYENRick Ryen 285-6248Thu Sep 08 1988 17:2528
	I would suggest you look into USED Strats. They can be
	had for $300-$450. Look for one that hasn't been beat
	up by some kid, or modified to death.

	If you get one in good shape, and decide to sell or trade
	it in a few years, you are less likely to loose money than
	if you buy a brandy new one.

	The original strat design was a very playable and durable
	guitar. It has not changed dramatically over the years,
	and I don't believe that there is any earthshaking new
	technology in the newer versions.

	They seem to vary in color, weight, type of woods used
	and the way the serial numbers are marked. Small variations
	in the shape can be noted, especially in the headstocks.

	I bought a used 1971 natural finish Strat with a maple neck
	about 5 yrs ago. It was in very good shape, no scratches,
	and all original. One fret was worn a bit, and the wammy bar
	was missing. It came with a almost like new case. It cost me
	$385, in a music store. I'd bet I could get $450 or $500 for
	it today, but it will never be sold. 

	If I had to do it over again myself, I would look exclusively
	at the used market.

Good hunting
831.3Dave, you're back!RUGRAT::POWELLDan Powell/274-6608Thu Sep 08 1988 17:445
    I second what Dave has to say about the Squire. It is a very good
    guitar for it's price. I don't think you'll really feel (or hear)
    a difference between a Squire and a '62 re-issue.
    
    Dan
831.4Strat opinionsGLIND1::VALASEKThu Sep 08 1988 18:0231
    Only my opinion, but, I have owned a 74 Tele-thinline, a squire
    bullet, a squire strat, a Japanese Fender strat, and a custom American
    standard from the custom shop. 
    
    My observations were this....
    
    74 Tele thinline - nice warm sound almost infinite sustain, felt
    good.
    
    Squire bullet - not bad for a budget guitar, not the sound of a
    strat.
    
    Squire strat - better yet, decent quality, nice action, but definitely
    not the same sound as a Fender strat.
    
    Fender Japanese strat - nice guitar, nice sound, good action (after
    I had it set up at the local guitar store).
    
    Custom American standard - best I have owned, plays nice, the neck
    is special, fits like a glove, sounds different than the Japanese
    Fender strat (more punch on the high end, probably due to the PBX
    tone control). Stays in tune nicely (no locking tuners or nut).
    
    All of these guitars had a distinct sound all of their own. No two
    sounded alike to me. Personally I like the American Standard Strat
    best. You can get them with a case for around 490.00 brand new.
    I have seen them as low as 380.00 at special shows.
    
    Just my opinion....
    
    Tony
831.5Yup, it's a '68 reissue!PARITY::SZABOMerrimack College, Class of 1992!Thu Sep 08 1988 19:1229
    Yes, it's definitely a '68 reissue.  I'd guess it's relatively new
    on the market since the Strat brochure did not include it, only
    the '57 and '62.  I don't recall if it's marked as such on the
    headstock, but the 3 '68's in the store were ticketed as '68, and
    some sort of invoice ticket attached was dated early July.
    
    Funny thing, now that I think of it, is that I remember seeing those
    same 2 cream colored '68 reissues about 5-6 weeks ago while browsing.  
    It's starting to make me wonder now........why haven't they sold
    yet?  Is it because an American Standard is about the same price?
    
    Interesting comments about a Squire Strat and a Japanese Fender
    Strat.  I `felt' the Squire, which had the Rosewood fretboard, then
    I felt the maple '68, and realized immediately that I prefer the
    maple neck.  Does a Squire come in a maple fretboard too?
    
    Also, concerning used.  I realize what many people say about finding
    an older used Strat in good condition however, I real picky when
    it comes to used stuff, and I don't think I have the time and energy
    to spend hunting around till I'm satisfied, which I may never be.
    But I hear what your saying.  I also like to be the first owner
    of something that costs serious money and something that I'll probably
    own forever (well, till I give it to my kids, who will be grown-up
    when the time comes).
    
    Like the replies so far.  Keep 'em coming especially about the low-end
    Strats (and compared to the high-end ones).  Thanks.
    
    John
831.6DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDEveryday I got the bluesFri Sep 09 1988 11:1615
    We bought a squire strat for our oldest boy and I thought it was
    an excellant guitar. However, I tried several squires before picking
    the one we bought...it was every bit as good as my early '70's strat
    with one exception: the pickups. Since I would change the pickups
    anyway from stock to stacks of some sort (stacked humbuckers sound
    strat-ish but don't hum, especially at high gain settings) this
    was a non-issue for me...
    
    The re-issues I tried were the '62 (I think) I found them to be
    good but at the time (several years ago) overpriced (IMO).
    
    As far as I know you can get any neck you want, ie: maple or rosewood
    on a squire. The reissues usually only come with one or the other.
    
    dbii
831.7More comments about American STDGLIND1::VALASEKWed Sep 14 1988 15:2512
    I agree, Squire's definitely have different sounding pickups. What
    I tend to like though is the new PBX tone control on the new American
    Standards. You can get just about any tone you want. Also, I really
    like the stock pickups. I usually play using the in-between position
    on the pickup switch (position 2). On the new American Std this
    is a hum cancelling position. I also like the new bridge design,
    the old strats High-E always felt like it was going to fall off
    the fretboard. The American Std. has solved this problem.
    
    Regards,
    
    Tony