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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

538.0. "New Guitar "FX" processors" by SAMURI::COOPER (Jeff Cooper - System Mangler 354-7611) Fri Mar 18 1988 14:01

    It's me again...
    
    I also went to South Carolinas greatest toy store and played for
    hours with a Roland G-50 guitar multi processor.  It was a blast.
    
    $875 gets you 100+ patches, program-able any way you want with 8
    major effects groups.
    
    I really liked it, but the price was a little prohibitive.  Anybody
    have any toys like this who could suggest some alternatives ?
    
    Thanks AGAIN!
    Jeff
    
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538.1One from DigitechERASER::BUCKLEYRocker Built for Speed!Fri Mar 18 1988 14:1313
    
    Hey Jeff...
    
    Looking to inject some venom into 2EZ?
    
    Digitech just came out with a multiprocessor. The unit has 128 banks
    to write your own sounds in. It provides EQ, chorusing, reverbation
    with gating and all, multi-tap delays, falnging, etc. You can do
    any combination up to 3 effects at once.  I haven't tried it, but
    if it sounded nice it would be a great unit 
    (digital delay/chorus/reverb=heaven!).  It lists for $399.
    
    wjb
538.2OpppsssSAMURI::COOPERJeff Cooper - System Mangler 354-7611Fri Mar 18 1988 14:155
    Make that a Roland GP-8....
    
    Cool as hell though...
    
    
538.3A damn good unit...a must, really!MARKER::BUCKLEYRocker Built for Speed!Fri Mar 18 1988 17:0429
                   
    I want to put a plug in here for the Rocktron `HUSH' series.
    
    These things are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    They come in a few different configurations: a battery powered 
    floor unit (Micro HUSH), a half-rack unit (HUSH II), a full 
    rack monaural unit (HUSH II-B), and a full rack stereo unit (HUSH
    II-C).
    
    They're kind of unique in their operation, and can only roughly
    be described as a cross between a desser and a noise gate (but its
    neither).  It removes all noise from your signal path, but it
    doesn't gate like a regular noise gate does. You'd have to hear
    it.
     
    Rocktron claims it does this without any tonal alteration.  I borrow
    one from a friend whenever possible (til I can afford one myself), and 
    would say it does alter your tone, but just a very little.  Its
    worth it in any case.
    
    If anyone out there runs any kind of high gain situation, or has
    probs with noise from effects boxes or microphonics, check out one
    of these units. 
    
    Prices vary from $200 to $400 (list prices, of course).  My friend
    got his HUSH II-B for $225. at Wurly's
    
    wjb 
538.4Digitech has it now..CCYLON::ANDERSONMon Mar 21 1988 12:439
    I've played with the GP-8 It's a nice unitalthough pricey. The
    Digitech DSP-128 is, however, a better unit in that it is a 16
    bit digital processor vs. 10 bit for the BP-8. It is also stereo
    in/out. If you can do without the built in distortion (the only
    effect that the GP-8 has that the DSP128 dosen't) at $299 which
    is what Ipayed for mine its a great deal.
    
    Jim
    
538.5SALEM::CALLAHANMon Mar 21 1988 19:0312
    
    
       Because of the price I assume it does not have MIDI ???
    
        $300 sounds like a very good deal compared to the $700 and up
        layering processors.

           I checked Daddy's in Salem NH today, but they have not 
           come in yet.  They are on 'sale' for $349
    
                                      Larry C
    
538.6Yes... It does!CCYLON::ANDERSONMon Mar 21 1988 19:415
    
    DSP-128 does have a MIDI...
    
    Jim
    
538.7DSP-128ECAVAX::VALASEKTue Mar 22 1988 14:109
    We just purchased a DSP-128 for our band and love it.
    Seems the specs are very similar to the SPX-90. Most
    think that SPX-90 technology is now obsolete. WE have
    one of those too. DSP-128 is a breakthrough, especially
    at the price 399. It's worth a look.
    
    Regards,
    
    Tony
538.8Seeking SPX_90 for its HarmonizerDREGS::BLICKSTEINMIDI DJTue Mar 22 1988 16:5324
    I would also think that the DSP-128 (et al) obsolete's the SPX-90.  I've
    been hoping to find a "fire sale" of SPX-90's cause it does a few
    things that I need that none of the other units do (particularly
    hamonization).
    
    And yet, all the stores I've contacted still are selling the SPX-90
    at the same price it's been at since the model "B" came out.
    
    I'm really looking forward to getting a harmonizer of some kind.
    
    I bought one of the first DDL's to hit the market and had incredible
    fun with it.  There were just so many genuinely radical-but-musical
    things you could do with it (I've given a partial list in the file 
    somewhere).
    
    I've come to the conclusion that harmonizers may offer the very
    same kind of opportunity.  I've already heard some radical things
    done that way (for example, Holdsworth's "Metal Fatigue").   I'm
    looking forward to combining delayed harmonized signals with the
    dry signal in interesting ways (sorta like what VH did on "Cathedral"
    and what Vai does a lot, except these guys have tried it with the
    harmonizer and the delay simultaneously).
    
    	db
538.9Midi on the GP-8SAMURI::COOPERIf Harley made planes, would you fly in 'em ?Fri Mar 25 1988 17:5913
    The GP-8 has midi too (you'd expect it for that kind of dough...
    
    
    I think I will go to check out this dsp-128.  It sounds hot.
    
    I will say that the one thing I liked about the GP-8 was it's
    distortion.  
    
    ...This coming from a GK owner....  must be good eh ?
    
    
    ;^)
    Jeff
538.10Never mind, some kind-hearted sole helped me out..SAMURI::COOPERIf Harley made planes, would you fly in 'em ?Fri Mar 25 1988 17:594
    Damn !  I keep putting "exit" for a title..

    Arrrgrgrgrhrgh
    
538.11Sheeesh!MARKER::BUCKLEYRocker Built for Speed!Fri Mar 25 1988 19:107
    
    Yo, JC,
    
    get *real* in NOTES, will ya???
    
    
    ;^>
538.12$299 ? Where ?SAMURI::COOPERMon May 09 1988 19:458
538.13Heres where...CCYLON::ANDERSONMon May 16 1988 14:497
    At the guitar shack here in Chicago. There are three locations and
    it took about a month to show up. The number is 312-439-7625.
    The unit is unbelieveable and blows away the GP-8 as long as you
    want to use a seperate distortion unit(s) as I do.
    
    Jim
    
538.14New DigiTech Rack MountsAQUA::ROSTHum-dum-dinger from DingersvilleThu Dec 01 1988 19:4211
    
    The DigiTech DSP-128 has been discontinued and replaced with a wider
    bandwidth DSP-128 PLUS model for the same price.  Don't expect them
    in stores until Christmas.
    
    Of more interest is the new DigiTech GSP-5, which is similar to
    the DSP-128 but can do *five* simultaneous effects, including a
    distortion.  The price of $529 *includes* the foot controller. 
    This should be a hot item, particularly if it starts getting
    discounted.
    
538.15NAMM infoPNO::HEISERCold Rock the Groove!Tue Aug 15 1989 21:4727
    I stole some of the new NAMM info from COMMUSIC.  Some of this looks
    interesting:
    
Alesis: MidiVerb III --  a programmable MVII with 3 fx at once. $399

Roland: GP-16   12fx guitar processer."produces remarkable stereo effects" $1195
        M-120  1U 12 input line mixer. 2 fx sends  $595.
          
Yamaha: MT3X 4track cassette recorder. 6channel mixer, dbx, etc. $995

Tascam: portastudio 644 and 688 MIDIstudios.  644 16 inputs 4 track, 688 20
        inputs 8 track.  $1499 and $3299.

Digitech: Harmoney Machine.  Downscaled IPS-33 smart shift. $559.
          Metal Machine.  rack mount multi effects with comp, distortion, eq
          and digital effects. $369
          DSP-256 4fx unit. full bandwidth, continuous midi control of all
          parameters. $499
          MEQ 28 single channel 28 band eq $499
          MEQ 14 double channel 14 band eq $499
          MEQ 7 quad channel 7 band eq $525

Fostex: 2016 line mixer 2U with 2 8x2 mixers that can function as 1 16x2 $1400

Lexicon: LXP-5  half rack multi fx (matches and complements LXP-1) with 3 octave
         pitch shift, chorus and flange, eq, reverb.  some MIDI control.