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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

369.0. "PAIA kit, CryBaby WahWah" by FOO::BHAVNANI (The dome is unclimbable.) Mon Oct 19 1987 04:00

   I've just received my PAIA Electronics "Gator" kit, which is a noise gate
   plus attack delay unit.  I've heard varying reports on this one and would
   be interested in knowing if anyone has replaced the active semiconductors
   in  the  circuit  with  quieter  ones or has had any success in getting a
   longer  attack  by  tweaking the value of the capacitor that controls the
   gain of the last op-amp.

   Anyone out there who owns a Dunlop CryBaby WahWah pedal?  This is the one
   used by Hendrix.  Am curious to know if anyone's tried changing the value
   of  the  pot  to  get  a more "wowed" sound.  The amount of travel on the
   pedal seems a bit small, resulting in a slightly shallow "wah".

   /ravi
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369.1Wah-faceRICKS::CALCAGNIMon Oct 19 1987 13:518
    re Crybaby
    
    I've got a Dallas Arbiter Wah-face that I think gets that old throaty
    Vox wah-wah sound.  The key ingredient is supposedly the inductor which
    comes from the Vox factory in Italy.  I know a place that sells
    these inductors if you're interested.
    
    /rick
369.2MORLEY riegns supreme...CIMNET::JNELSONRemember what the doormouse said....Mon Oct 19 1987 17:0712
    Not that this has anything much to do with your question, but I've
    been through several WAH's, and currently have what I think is the
    best sounding one around - MORLEY.  My particular model is a MORLEY
    rotating WAH.  The rotating sound simulates a lesley cabinet, and
    is a very interesting mechanism which would probably be better
    discussed elsewhere.  The really cool thing is the pedal, in that
    it has no internal moving parts; the volume/wah is controlled via
    a photoresistor.  The pedal is connected to a "blanket" inside,
    which can completely cover or completely expose the resistor to
    an internal lightbulb.  No noise, smooth, high gain, NICE SOUND!
    
    Jon
369.3Get Your WahWahs OutFOO::BHAVNANIIt's not a bug - it's a feature!Tue Oct 20 1987 04:2612
	Re: .1:   > The key ingredient is supposedly the inductor...

	Interesting you  mentioned that.  That was the first thing I
	looked  for when I opened up my pedal.  Didn't find any.  My
	old  wahwah (a Sola Sound) did have one, I think it was a 10
	mH job and boy, did it growl!  Guess you get more of a notch
	with an RLC circuit than a vanilla RC.

	I think I'm going to swap my pedal for the Dallas Arbiter if
	it's not too late.  Btw, do you have their FuzzFace?

	/ravi
369.4RICKS::CALCAGNITue Oct 20 1987 13:273
    never tried a Fuzz-face, but I hear they're pretty wild
    
    /rick
369.5Dallas Arbiter WahWahFOO::BHAVNANIIt's not a bug - it's a feature!Wed Oct 21 1987 03:545
	Do you know who sells the DA WahWah in the Boston/Cambridge area?
	Musician's Friend happily agreed to accept the Dunlop pedal for a
	full refund!

	/ravi
369.6Don't Hold Your BreathAQUA::ROSTIndependent as a hog on iceWed Oct 21 1987 11:2911
    
    Re: .5
    
    As far as I know, Dallas Arbiter pedals have been unavailable for
    about ten years at least, except for the recently reintroduced Fuzz
    Face.           
    
    Although, wahs seem to be coming back again (DOD and Ibanez just
    brought out new ones) maybe they will start making them again.
    
    
369.7Now. that was a toy!STAR::KMCDONOUGHWed Oct 21 1987 12:5417
    Maybe someone knows for sure.  I was under the impression that the
    original CryBaby wahwah was made by Vox, not Dunlop?  I have owned
    two of these pedals and loved their sound.  As someone correctly
    pointed out, the CryBaby had a very limited travel --  the sound
    went from that "awwwh" sound to a razor sharp growl in less than
    an inch.
    
    I never used the pedal to get a real wahwah sound such as in the
    "White Room" solo.  I used it to get a high-end boost that sounded
    more like a screaming cat.  Carlos Santana did this real well.
    
    I had never really thought about it, but the wahwah sound did vanish
    some time ago.  Killed by over use?
    
    
    Kevin
    
369.8Vox Was The FirstAQUA::ROSTIndependent as a hog on iceWed Oct 21 1987 13:098
    
    Re: .7
    
    Vox *did* make the original Cry Baby.  Jim Dunlop bought the rights
    and has been selling them for the last few years.  I have heard
    some peopl grouse about the Dunlops much as folks grouse about CBS
    Fenders.  They now also have a bass wah-wah version out for all you 
    John Wetton and Rick Kemp fans.
369.9MXR AutoWahFOO::BHAVNANIIt's not a bug - it's a feature!Thu Oct 29 1987 03:038
	Just as an aside, MXR's Envelope Filter is a *great* "auto-wah"
	pedal.  You can adjust the wah from a "wah" to a "waoh" (!), as
	also the level at which it kicks in.  Quite as a mouse, too! Of
	course, it won't substitute for a manual wahwah, but I use mine
	quite  a  bit  for an effect that's almost impossible to get by
	rapidly moving your foot in time with your picking.

	/ravi
369.10Ibanez WahWahFOO::BHAVNANIIt's not a bug - it's a feature!Mon Nov 09 1987 03:132
	Anyone tried the new Ibanez WahWah?
	/ravi