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| 314.1 | Sounds like a 5 string Banjo !! | COUGAR::JACQUES | | Mon Aug 10 1987 12:45 | 40 |
| I believe the tuning your using is like a standard D tuning on
a 5 string banjo. The 5 string Banjo is tuned as follows starting
from the top (short string):
top (short) string G above mid C
D below mid C
G below mid C
B below mid C
D above mid C
When you strum a banjo open in this tuning, you get a G chord. It
sounds like this is what your using except that your 5th and 6th
strings are tuned to G an octave and a half below mid C instead of
G above mid C. It must have a pretty full sound. If you want, you
could easily transpose banjo tunes to this strange guitar tuning.
Considering all the "New Grass" music out there, it could be inter-
esting. Another common use for alternate tunings is playing slide.
Usually, if you tune to a chord, you can play some simple but effective
stuff with a slide. When you start playing with tunings, the
possibilities are just about endless. Alternate tunings are very
closely studied by Slide Pedal, Lap steel, Banjo, Dobro, and
Melobar players. What is a "Melobar" you might ask. It is a
strange variation on guitar which has a tilted neck, so that
you can play slide pedal type stuff while standing. It is also
designed to be flatpicked in stead of fingerpicked. If you are
a long time flatpicker, and aren't too good with fingerpicks,
you can probably do more with a melobar, than a Steel Pedal,
Dobro, or lap steel, without becoming proficient at finger
picking. I have never seen one in a Music stroe but have
read about them in lots of books. I guess they are real
popular in the South where slide pedal is still very popular.
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro Ma.
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| 314.2 | | HAMSTR::PELKEY | There's snails in that food ! | Mon Aug 10 1987 17:53 | 11 |
| RE:1.
I'd have to agree with this...
There's alot of people who've done this for years, and made a damn
good living at it. BUT, The guitar does take on a hole new sound
when open tuning is done. I tune to open D alot. But you have
to be carefull. Tune your E to C First, then tune the rest of the
strings to opened D. Saves many-a- gstring.
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| 314.3 | which G tuning for you? | DOBRO::SIMON | Blown away in the country...Vermont | Tue Aug 11 1987 16:30 | 35 |
|
There's lots of different versions of the open G tuning:
On the "country (bluegrass) dobro" you tune it (thick to thin)
6 5 4 3 2 1
G B D G B D
One variation on this is to add an extra high G note and remove
the low B (sleeper) string and shift 4 3 and 2 all down one
coming up with
6 5 4 3 2 1
G D G B D G
This gives you a tonic in the high string position kind of like
with a guitar in regular tuning playing a 1st position bar chord.
This is a handy tuning for someone that already plays guitar and
might want to fool around with open tunings and slide. It is also
fairly close to a banjo tuning as well. David Lindley uses variations
of this tuning in several different keys on his lap steels and
hawaiian koas.
There are several more that I can't think of off the top of my head
but I do remember one starting with a D on the sixth string.
They are all fun to play around with, but you can get real confused
if you try to learn and use more than one or two regularly. I've
been using the country dobro tuning (GBDGBD) on my dobro and the
modified hi-G (GDGBDG) on my lap steel.
-gary
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| 314.4 | D tuning | CHEFS::BURKEG | Cyclists rule ok | Mon Nov 16 1987 11:20 | 6 |
|
Always thought Leo Kottke Did this on Vaseline Machine Gun (ex
6 & 12 String guitar) any offers??? By the way I've never heard a Goose
f*rt on a muggy day but I imagine its bad.
GB
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| 314.5 | Jimmy Page's tunings | ADS::STARR | SRV.....I can't believe you're gone....... | Mon Nov 26 1990 01:53 | 8 |
| In the last Musician magazine, Jimmy Page gave away a few of his 'secret'
tunings......
For "Over The Hills and Far Away" and "Kashmir" - DAGDAD (low to high)
For "Friends", "Poor Tom" and "Bron-Yr-Aur" - CACGCE (low to high)
alan
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| 314.6 | Low String or Low E (Top) | WMOIS::T_NELSON | On a Beer day you can Pee forever | Mon Nov 26 1990 18:29 | 4 |
| Re -.1 I don't mean to be picky but I think you got one of your
tunings backwards. Depending on what you mean by (low and high)?
Ted ;^)
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| 314.7 | looks like....I'll have to double check... | IMPULS::STARR | SRV.....I can't believe you're gone....... | Mon Nov 26 1990 18:37 | 10 |
| re: -1
low to high means that the first note listed is the low-E (the thick one!),
and the last note is the high-E (the thin one, usually next to the B!). There
*could* be a mixup - I thought I got it right, but looking back at them, it
does seem like the two middle notes of the first one should be reversed....
BTW, notice that the E strings on one of them are lowered to C??? Wow!
alan
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| 314.8 | | WMOIS::T_NELSON | On a Beer day you can Pee forever | Tue Nov 27 1990 11:45 | 8 |
|
That's it! the middle 2 on the first one should be switched. I also
read that article but can't remember the exact tunings off hand but
noticed something seemed a little odd.
Going to have to give Kashmir a shot now! :^)
Ted
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| 314.9 | | LEDS::BURATI | rih-bah...RIH-BAH! | Fri Apr 19 1991 12:02 | 25 |
|
You know, guys, here's a topic that deserves a lot more attention. It's
an area that I've wanted to experiment in for some time but have just
not had the time. Also, screwing around with your tuning on a Strat with
floating tremelo is a path to a rat hole. But now that I have my
tailpiece locked down, I'd like to experiment.
Not too long ago I played in an all-original-song band. The other guitar
player wrote the music and played all the rhythm stuff. He was famous
for using chord voicings that had open strings in them. He often took it
a step further and changed his tuning a lot. Nothing this guy did was
conventional. He just made up stuff. Sometimes he did nothing more than
drop the pitch of his A to G. He could never tell me the name of a
chord. (This was very challenging gig for me) But his stuff sounded very
original and he has written hundreds of (pretty good) songs. (probably a
couple hundred more that he should never play for anyone.) Being
responsible for lead parts and having a Stratocaster to boot, I never
changed my tuning from standard.
The point is this. I think fooling with your tuning can spark and
inspire ideas. It can maybe help some of us out of those musical ruts
that we feel we're sometimes stuck in. You know, a fresh approach to the
instrument. A new hook. The idea for an original tune. This is a good
topic people! But maybe we all want to play lead.
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| 314.10 | Open Tunings | MAYA01::MARC | | Tue Jul 02 1991 15:44 | 17 |
| GREETINGS,
In reply to 314.5
LO HI
I believe he means D A D G A D > open D sus4th?
&
LO HI
C G C G C E > open C tuning
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| 314.11 | | E::EVANS | | Tue Jul 02 1991 16:45 | 7 |
|
How about (low to high) E E E E B E
I have seen (and used) this to play Suite Judy Blue Eyes and 4 & 20.
Jim
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| 314.12 | 4 & 20 | MAYA01::MARC | | Thu Oct 17 1991 19:54 | 12 |
| in reply to 314.11,
I thought I read somewhere (FRETS, I think) where 4 & 20 was
play with this guitar tuning:
D A D D A D
or
E B E E B E
Marc
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| 314.13 | a variant | TOOK::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Fri Oct 18 1991 01:20 | 8 |
| I used to play this. If I remember correctly, the tuning I used was:
D A D F# A D
Maybe I don't remember correctly, or maybe that's not the tuning Stills
used. try it.
- Ram
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| 314.14 | some interesting Sonic Youth tunings | QRYCHE::STARR | Is it raining in your bedroom? | Mon Aug 16 1993 16:21 | 174 |
| Article 7360 of rec.music.makers.guitar:
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: alee@quads.uchicago.edu (Nic Fit)
Subject: SONIC YOUTH: A tunings list (08/02/93)
Reply-To: alee@midway.uchicago.edu
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 21:25:59 GMT
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The Unofficial Sonic Youth
Guitar Tunings List
08/02/93
Compiled and supplemented by: Art Lee (alee@midway.uchicago.edu).
Send corrections/additions/etc to this address please.
Ftp: ftp.maths.tcd.ie - /pub/music/guitar/sonic_youth/guitar.tunings
Posted to: Usenet and the Sonic Life emailing list monthly.
Update: None. Last revised 5/19/93.
Thanks to: Guitar Player 8/89, Bad Moon Rising CD Booklet, Ron Rader (rlr@
bbt.com), Michael Hayes (mph@irl.chch.cri.nz), Sean C. Duncan (scduncan@
apsvax.aps.muohio.edu), Mike Goldsman (goldsman@cc.gatech.edu), Sam Rowe
(elric@selway.umt.edu) and others.
Notes:
1. Tunings are listed from lowest to highest string.
Example: E-A-D-G-B-E (standard tuning).
2. LR = Lee Ranaldo, TM = Thurston Moore.
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Contents: by section
1. General tunings
2. Slightly altered tunings
3. Split tunings
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Section 1: General tunings
1. E-B-E-E-A-B
The second and third E's are in unison.
Used in: Eric's Trip, Hey Joni, Rain King, Kissability.
2. E-E-B-E-B-E
The first two E's are in unison.
Used in: Intro, Brave Men Run, Ghost Bitch (LR - mellow).
3. E-E-B-F#-B-E
The first two E's are in unison.
Used in: Ghost Bitch (LR).
4. F#-F#-F#-F#-E-B
The first pair of F#'s are in unison. The second pair of F#'s
are in unison and an octave above the first pair.
Used in: Death Valley 69, Halloween, Mary Christ, Kool Thing, 100%.
5. G-A-B-D-E-G
Used in: Teenage Riot (TM).
6. G-G-C-C-A#-A#
All three pairs are in unison.
Used in: I Love Her All the Time (TM).
7. G-G-C#-D-G-G
The first pair of G's are in unison. The second pair of G's
are in unison an octave above the first pair.
Used in: The Wonder (TM), Hyperstation (TM).
8. G-G-D-D-F-F
All three pairs are in unison.
Used in: Mote.
9. G-G-D-D-G-G
All three pairs are in unison, the second pair of G's are an
octave above the first pair.
Used in: Teenage Riot (LR), Tunic (LR).
10. G#-G#-G#-D-D#-D#
The three G#'s are in unison. The pair of D#'s are in unison.
Used in: White Cross (TM).
11. A-A-A-A-B-D
The first pair of A's are in unison. The second pair of A's
are in unison and an octave above the first pair.
Used in: Justic is Might (TM?).
12. A-A-E-E-A-A
This is tuning #9 with a capo on the second fret.
Used in Theresa's Sound-world (LR).
13. A-A-E-E-F#-A
The first two A's are in unison. The pair of E's are in unison.
Used in: Justic is Might (LR).
14. A-C-C-G-G#-C
The first two C's are in unison, the third is an octave above.
Used in: Silver Rocket, The Sprawl, Candle, Cinderella's Big Score,
Theresa's Sound-world (TM).
15. D-D-D-D-E-A
The first pair of D's are in unison. The second pair of D's
are in unison an octave above the first pair.
Used in: I'm Insane (LR).
16. D#-D#-C#-C#-G-G
All three pairs are in unison.
Used in: I Love Her All the Time (LR).
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Section 2: Slightly altered tunings
For this section, the tunings use standard tuning, with slight
adjustments. To achieve the similarity, you have to tune up or
down, noted by: u = tune up Don't expect your strings
d = tune down to be the same after!
17. E-dE-dB-dB-dE-dF#
The first two E's are in unison, the pair of B's are in unison.
Used in: Dirty Boots (LR).
18. E-dG-D-G-dE-dD
Used in: Dirty Boots (TM), Tunic (TM), Mildred Pierce,
My Friend Goo, Titanium Expose, Sugar Kane (TM), Chapel Hill.
19. E-dG#-uE-uG#-dE-dG#
Used in: Expressway to Yr Skull.
20. uF#-dF#-uG-G-dA-dA
All three pairs are in unison.
Used in: Tom Violence, Starpower, In the Kingdom #19, Death to our
Friends, Marilyn Moore, Bubblegum, Schizophrenia, White Cross (LR).
21. uG-dG-D-dD-dEb-dEb
All three pairs are in unison.
Used in: Brother James, Stereo Sanctity, Cotton Crown,
Total Trash, The Wonder (LR), Hyperstation (LR), Sugar Kane (LR),
Orange Rolls Angel's Spit.
22. uC-uC-uE-uB-dG-dD
The pair of C's are in unison.
Used in: Cross the Breeze, Disappearer.
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Section 3: Split tunings
Title Thurston Moore Lee Ranaldo
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I Love Her All the Time G-G-C-C-A#-A# (6) D#-D#-C#-C#-G-G (16)
Justic is Might A-A-A-A-B-D ?(11) A-A-E-E-F#-A (13)
White Cross G#-G#-G#-D-D#-D# (10) F#-F#-G-G-A-A (20)
Teenage Riot G-A-B-D-E-G (5) G-G-D-D-G-G (9)
The Wonder G-G-C#-D-G-G (7) G-G-D-D-Eb-Eb (21)
Hyperstation G-G-C#-D-G-G (7) G-G-D-D-Eb-Eb (21)
Dirty Boots E-G-D-G-E-D (18) E-E-B-B-E-F# (17)
Tunic E-G-D-G-E-D (18) G-G-D-D-G-G (9)
Theresa's Sound-world A-C-C-G-G#-C (14) A-A-E-E-A-A (12)
Sugar Kane E-G-D-G-E-D ?(18) G-G-D-D-Eb-Eb (21)
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Art Lee (alee@midway.uchicago.edu)
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| 314.15 | | QUIVER::SIEGEL | The revolution wil not be televised | Thu Aug 19 1993 15:14 | 7 |
| re: Sonic Youth
Must make playing their songs live a real bitch... :-)
Makes the Grateful Dead's between-song tuneups seem like a few seconds.
adam
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| 314.16 | They don't need no stinking TUNING! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I think I am, therefore...? | Thu Aug 19 1993 15:54 | 7 |
| >Must make playing their songs live a real bitch... :-)
>Makes the Grateful Dead's between-song tuneups seem like a few seconds.
Actually, they just take a *ton* of different guitars with them on the
road for their shows...
gh
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| 314.17 | somebody else is always worse off... | RDGENG::AFRY | | Fri Sep 03 1993 10:32 | 3 |
| And I thought I had problems with three guitars/tunings...
Andrew
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