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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

188.0. "GUITAR WORK" by KAOM01::PENNY () Fri Mar 06 1987 16:01

    I'd be interested to find out if anyone else out there in guitar
    land does or has done any work on guitars. I've dabbled in guitar
    work for a few years now, and I really enjoy it. If I could make
    it pay well enough I'd entertain the idea of doing it full time.
    
    Anyway, I'd like to see a trading of ideas, hints, etc, on some
    of the tools and methods/equipment people have used in guitar work.
    
    As an example; When gluing a new nut on a neck, the best "clamp"
    I've found is the elastic banding that is used in (mainly womens
    & childrens) clothes. It can be found at any counter that sells 
    sewing materials. It leaves no marks on the finish and can be drawn
    very tight and tied with a simple bow. (As in tying your shoelace).
    Another hint; When replacing a nut (or similar articles), the factory
    finish should "cut" with an exacto knife (or similar tool) to prevent
    the finish from cracking or flaking/splintering. This is especially
    true when replacing a bridge on an acoustic.
    
    Please feel free to use this note/topic/whatever its called (I'm
    fairly new to notes) to ask/trade advice on guitar work and problem
    solving.
    
    dep. The Canadian Luthier
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188.1fret dressing made easyKAOM01::PENNYFrom The Great White NorthMon Apr 27 1987 16:2013
    OK, I'll put in another hint if nobody else will.
    FRET DRESSING - After removing the strings, I straighten the neck
    (it usually has a slight concave bow to it) using a good straight-edge,
    such as a 2' level. I then use a "sanding block" on the frets. My
    "sanding block" is an old B & D finishing sander (which bit the
    dust) with the motor/housing removed, leaving only the base & pad.
    The pad is a dense foam material, which is just right for conforming
    to the curvature of the fret surfaces. I use 120 paper to do the
    main dressing on the frets, then switch to #600 emery paper to do
    the polishing on them. Then I re-adjust the neck as required. This
    whole process takes about an hour. The frets come out an even height,
    with all the worn out spots nicely removed.
    dep.
188.2twist on the above titlePNO::HEISERsave a tree, go CDFri Mar 23 1990 16:4713
    Just out of curiosity,
    
    How many out there listen to tapes/CDs at work?  
    Do you use a walkman or ghetto blaster?
    Do you feel it helps you in your work?
    How do your managers view it?
    
    I have a little blaster that I brought into work a few months back.  I
    think it helps me in my work.  I can't play it loud anyway (no
    headphones) so it isn't distracting.  Others have radios in the cubes
    around my office so it is fairly accepted here.
    
    Mike
188.3TCC::COOPERMIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack pukeFri Mar 23 1990 17:0715
I play CD's thru a SOny DiscMan at work.
I think it makes me type faster.  I'm a Info Systems dweebie, so I type a lot.
I tend to keep beat with what I'm listening too.
I can really fly when I'm listening to Metallica !

On the other hand though, I've been caught playing "air guitar" many, many 
times...And I get some funny looks when I sing along with Spreading The Disease 
by Queensryche (rather bitchin' tune that slams organized religion, politics,
corruption of the afore mentioned etc... )...This is the BibleBelt ya know.  ;)

They are definately not ready for a long-haired yankee boy who sings to himself,
makes funny signs with his hands and has pictures of dudes with names like
Yngwie and Ozzy on his walls.

;)
188.4Can't work without it!!WMOIS::DMURRAYTrying to get music rightFri Mar 23 1990 17:0913
    
    	I listen to CD's, on a Sony Discman.
    	Managers are fine about it and if I'm in a meeting my
    	manager will use it.
    
    	I like it cause it helps with cutting out noise, and I get 
    	to listen to what I want. 
    
    	Now for a pratice amp, headphones and my Strat. I'm sure
    	My manager would have something to say about that 8>).
    
    				Dave.
    	
188.5Used with discretion...COOKIE::G_HOUSEFearlessFri Mar 23 1990 17:2026
    Since my current job involves working on the telephone, it's not
    possible for me to listen to music while I work right now.  Since I've
    gotten used to not having it, when I do try listen to music lately, it
    seems to distract me.
    
    Some of my old jobs I made heavy use of a headphone stereo cassette
    player and it helped me concentrate on my work by helping to shut out
    distractions.  I think that using something without headphones would
    probably be an imposition I wouldn't want to make on my fellow workers.
    I think that listening to most radio stations would be distracting
    since you'd be assaulted with DJ babble and commercials.
    
    At the time I used one, the people I worked for didn't mind me using
    it, as long as I didn't disturb anyone else with it.  One of my friends
    works for a shops that does not *allow* employees to listen to music
    while they work.  I really don't know why they do this.  I thought
    about it a long time after he told me about their policy and the only
    conceivable reason I could come up with was to prevent someone from
    disturbing other employees with an audible music source.  But their
    policy won't even allow headphone stereos.
    
    I'm moving into a new job soon and I hope that they will let me listen
    to music (privately) as I work.  :-)
    
    Greg
                                        
188.6can't walk without itGOOROO::CLARKsay goodbye to Madame GeorgeFri Mar 23 1990 17:237
    I listen to tapes on a Walkman. Mostly hiking through the
    woods at lunch. I get a lot of ideas that way, especially
    listening to band tapes (ideas like, "hey, we could really
    use a digital reverb unit, a harmonizer, and an aural exciter!
    let's see, how many years of gigs will that take?" :-)  )
    
    -Dave
188.7no volume...RAVEN1::DANDREAFrog lickers unite!Fri Mar 23 1990 17:285
    I listen to a "ghetto blaster"...mostly the local classic rock station
    and an occassional cassette.  I can't turn it up enough to get any
    "quality" sounds though.
    
    stevie
188.8What More Could I Ask ForAQUA::ROSTBikini Girls With Machine GunsFri Mar 23 1990 18:3011
    
    I'm lucky in that I'm near a window and can get FM pretty well, I tune
    into a college station that plays folk till 11 AM, then three hours of
    jazz, then three hours of fusion and time to quit...if I do OT they
    crank reggae the next three hours and then soul till midnight.  Every
    once in a while I pop a tape in.
    
    Almost everyone in my group has headphones and either a Walkman, a
    blaster or a CD machine.
    
    							Brian
188.9PNO::HEISERsave a tree, go CDFri Mar 23 1990 18:4714
>They are definately not ready for a long-haired yankee boy who sings to himself,
>makes funny signs with his hands and has pictures of dudes with names like
>Yngwie and Ozzy on his walls.
    
    That's funny to hear Coop.  I thought I was the only one made fun of. 
    I only have pictures of guitar equipment though for now.  I have a
    collage of my ultimate studio setup.  My wife and sister thought I was
    bizarre when they saw my office ;-)
    
    I know Greg House has a Satch poster in his office.  My sister took
    some nice shots of him at his appearance here.  Some of them may end up
    on my office wall.
    
    Mike
188.10DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Fri Mar 23 1990 19:0413
    
    
    
    	I listen to "nuthin" cos radios and most other forms of
    entertainment are NOT ALLOWED IN THE AUGUSTA FACILITY!!!!   I USED TO
    BE A DAMN BUSINESS MANAGER BEFORE THAT LITTLE NERVOUS BREAKDOWN AND I
    WANT MY RADIO BACK!!!!!!!!!.......... 
    
    	That's right folks, no music allowed here.. something about it
    leading to mishappen babies....
    
    
    wheres my hatchet, Mom?
188.11shouldn't do that shouldn't do that shouldn't do thatSMURF::BENNETTPull Claim Blend? Say What?Fri Mar 23 1990 19:545
	I can't think when there's music around. Gee, maybe that'd help!
	Doing software and listening to music are tough for me to handle
	so I stick with the software.

188.12COOKIE::G_HOUSEFearlessFri Mar 23 1990 20:008
    re: .10

    >	I listen to "nuthin" cos radios and most other forms of
    >entertainment are NOT ALLOWED IN THE AUGUSTA FACILITY!!!!

    Just out of curiosity, what is the rational for this restriction?

    Greg
188.13maybe the same in AugustaPNO::HEISERFri Mar 23 1990 21:026
    When I first started with DEC 10 years ago, some areas in Phoenix
    didn't allow radios because they interfered with electronic test
    equipment.
    
    Mike
    
188.14Words from a working class dawg ...ASAHI::SCARYJoke 'em if they can't take a ...Sat Mar 24 1990 12:5018
    I work in Manufacturing and radios/CD players/tape decks/marital aids
    aren't alllowed.  BUT, on the weekends, it's OK ! (?).  It is also
    considered a safety violation to listen to a Walkman type unit because
    the headphones makes it harder to hear an evacuation alarm.  Yet, the
    office folk (like Coop and Bulldawg ...) can compact brain cells as
    they choose ! (?)  
    
    But, I work a lot of OT on the weekends and I usually drag in a jam box
    and listen to mainly stuf like SRV, Satch, and any other guitar
    oriented material.  I stay away from the heavy stuff because not
    everyone is into Celtic Frost.  
    
    I think music should be allowed in all sites, unless it interferes with
    the process or whatever.  I know in a production environment it
    produces a higher volume of quality work.
    
    
    				Scary
188.15Leave your toys at home people...LOOKUP::BUCKLEYClaimin'!Sat Mar 24 1990 16:1517
    >I think music should be allowed in all sites, unless it interferes with
    >the process or whatever. 
    
    I disagree!  To me, it's like taking your dog to work, or your kids...
    The work place is NOT a day care center, and it NOT a pound, nor
    is it a beach where you can listen to music while you bake.  Those
    items are superflous to trhe office environment, and should be left
    at home (where they belong)!
    
    >I know in a production environment it produces a higher volume of 
    >quality work.
    
    Again, I strongly disagree...I work in a production environment, and
    nothing irks me more than someone in the next cubile listening to 
    music whilst *I'm* trying to concentrate!  I don't care if it's TNT
    (my favorite band) or Willy Nelson (low on my list)...it's still a
    distraction!!!
188.16ASAHI::SCARYJoke 'em if they can't take a ...Sun Mar 25 1990 04:4817
    We had a trial period at work where Manufacturing people could bring in
    radios, etc.  It worked very well for the MAJORITY.  But there were a
    handfull of folks (similar to -1 I would gather ...) that complained
    and b*tched about it because it wasn't country, or top 40, or whatever.
    Basically, they just didn't like the idea of someone actually having a
    pleasant distraction during work hours.  Remember folks, work is NOT
    supposed to be fun.  So, since there were negative feelings going
    on here, the issue was dropped, and radios aren't allowed except for
    during Christmas, and only Christmas tunes can be played then, so as
    not to upset the vocal minority.
    
    If it increases YOUR productivity and doesn't bother someone else,
    what's the harm ?  I think some folks get off on being a stick in the
    mud ...
    
    
    				Scary 
188.17Wear Headphone or Die!VLNVAX::ALECLAIRESun Mar 25 1990 21:5121
    Well I'm a stick in the mud, I prefer the dead silence of
    concentration.
     But if there's anything that gets me Real  Irked , I mean in a serious
    *time to get another job* way is SoftRock , the same balogna over and
    over again. I still can't even type the names Whitney Hous*** or
    Jim Croakie without starting to shake and , well, Leave The Room.
    For Good. I just can't take that B*LLSH** Over and Over and Over again.
    Some of these stations repeating a tape every couple of hours drive me
    CRAZZY! 
    
     Of course there are some things I like to hear often , like
    Beethovan's 6th and I tend to listen to something new A-Lot until
    it gets boring.   
    
     The point is when you take people and FORCE them to listen to
    something not of thier choosing you are controlling their behavior
    against their will. You can listen to WHATEVER u want , as MUCH as
    you want to hear it, but Dude if you make me listen to it too
    then Welcome to the WAR.
    
     
188.18$25 for what ? 8^0ASAHI::SCARYJoke 'em if they can't take a ...Sun Mar 25 1990 23:3321
    I agree ... if it really bothers someone, I can understand not blasting
    Death Angel in their ears.  But, I my situation, the room is fairly
    wide open, and I can listen to what I want and the next guy over can do
    the same, provided he doesn't bring in a jam box that runs off 440V. 
    When we do this, everyone's pretty cool about it, and we try not to
    p*ss of our neighbor.
    
    The thing that bothers me is the "no compromise" folks.  For example, I
    brought my tape deck in one time and this lady (I use the term loosely)
    asked me to turn it up so some other folks could hear it.  I was into
    Operation: Mindcrime (Queensryche) real heavy then.  The 2nd verse of
    "Spreading The Disease" sent her into tremors.  She asked me to turn it
    on either a country station or a top 40 commercial station.  I told her
    I didn't want to hear that and I'd just cut it back down where she
    couldn't hear it, like it was before.  I'm a jerk now ... sheesh !
    
    
    				Scary
    
    (who's working OT in the area - ALONE - with Blues Saraceno at painful
    volume .... thankyou !)
188.19YepDNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Mon Mar 26 1990 13:096
    
    
    	Yo, Greg.. you've just about heard them all, safety, distraction
    and annoyance...  
    
    Steve
188.20DECWIN::KMCDONOUGHSet Kids/NosickMon Mar 26 1990 14:039
    I use my walkman ALL the time.  I keep a bunch of tapes here and swap
    'em in and out on a regular basis.
    
    There's no chance that anyone else would ever hear it, and I find it
    helps to block out other distracting sounds.  I usually play music I'm
    very familiar and find that after a few minutes I don't notice it much.
    
   
    Kevin
188.21PNO::HEISERMon Mar 26 1990 15:5111
188.22Coding by BeethovenNATASH::RUSSOTue Mar 27 1990 20:1915
    
    I'm a programmer, and I have always preferred to write code with music
    on.  So, I keep a walkman at work, my productivity is improved by it. 
    I do keep the volume low enough so that I can talk to people while
    leaving the music on (though I usually take the phones off to talk with
    someone).  I find that when the music is too loud it is
    counter-productive.
    
    The less words in the music the better, symphonies, quartets, and
    concertos are great for logic flow as far as I'm concerned!!!  However,
    when I'm really into my work it doesn't really matter what I'm
    listening to as long as I like it......the music just kinda sits in the
    background, and the tapes seem to end pretty quickly.
                                                     
    Dave
188.23yes & noCMBOOT::EVANSif you don't C# you'll BbTue Apr 03 1990 11:0312
    
    	I'm not sure what the position is in the US but radios, tape
    players etc are not allowed on UK sites, nobody seems to enforce this &
    it appears to be left to managers discretion.  I tend to find music
    distracting if I'm concentrating, but I agree that it helps in
    production where repetative work is done.  One place I worked installed
    a music system & there was a ballot every month for which radio station
    to tune to, worked really well, productivity went up as did the quality
    of work.
    
    Cheers
    		Pete.
188.24UPWARD::HEISERShut up! I'm doin' a Nike commercialTue Apr 03 1990 17:286
    Re: -1
    
    I know Cupertino has music piped into some of their office areas. 
    They usually have elevator music on when I'm there.
    
    Mike