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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4107.0. "MED2.00 doesn't work" by NMGV15::LOENDERSLOOT () Wed Sep 12 1990 07:22

    Hello,
    
    Does anybody tried MED v2.00 of the FF349 disk? I didn't get it
    working and in the "AMAZING COMPUTING" magazine there is mentioned
    that this version is a very buggy one and is replaced by version 2.01
    Is there someone that has this version, available or have the same
    experience with v2.00?
    
    Jos
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4107.1It works for me!STAR::ROBINSONWed Sep 12 1990 15:488
I have used the MED v2.00 program without major problems. The only major
bug I found has to do with saving files with icons. If you shut off that
option it seems to work fine on my 1 meg A500 old Agnus. According to
usenet, last time I checked, a new version is available but is compressed
with some compression program that nobody has. If someone finds an updated 
version that works let us know. It is a nice program.

Dave
4107.2It worksNMGV15::LOENDERSLOOTWed Sep 26 1990 10:496
    I have downloaded the ff349 disk again (I'm lucky to be able to
    download now directly from my dcl-account to a DECstation350 in MS-DOS
    format) and it worked fine, but I'm still interested in the newer
    version if somebody can find it.
    
    Jos 
4107.3MIDI <-> MED2.13 not workingFSCORE::KAYEwhere's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-gWed Dec 05 1990 00:0714
I can't seem to get MED2.13 to talk to my MIDI keyboard. I built the
interface and have scoped data moving in both directions, but the
keyboard is silent & i'm not sure what MED is supposed to do with
keyboard input.

Sequence of events...
Start MED
Select MIDI - MIDI ACTIVE, INPUT ACTIVE, channel #1 (keyboard default)
Select SAMPLE - volume 32
Select EDIT - activate EDIT gadget
Play notes on the keyboard - nothing happens!
AM i missing something??

 mark
4107.4Cannot get v2.13 to functionDECWET::DAVISnice computers don't go downWed Dec 05 1990 14:436
    I have almost the opposite problem.  I can get MED 2.00 to work but
    MED2.13 either crashes or freezes my amiga.  I had "Inventio8" playing
    on my keyboard.  Did you FTP MED2.13?  If I can get another copy(I
    FTP'd my copy from abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov) I will troubleshoot.
    
    md
4107.5MED2.13CSSE32::SMITHReality, just a visible imagination?Wed Dec 05 1990 15:207
Try this one...

Directory TAPE::USER2:[UPLOAD]

MED213.TXT;1                         6  15-NOV-1990 09:00:45.00
MED213.ZOO;2                       265  16-NOV-1990 14:25:23.00
                                                              
4107.6more infoFSCORE::KAYEwhere's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-gWed Dec 05 1990 15:537
I loaded MED2.00 from FF349 and then popped in MED2.13 from TAPE::
I didn't try MED2.00. I did try the Bars&Pipes Demo, but after i finally
figured out what i was doing and got a pipe going for MIDI input, it 
hung and i had to reboot (twice). I need a quick utility just to let
me know that things are really working.

 mark
4107.7PD midi tools on one of the Fish.DECWET::DAVISnice computers don't go downWed Dec 05 1990 20:339
    There are some PD midi tools on one of the Fish disks.  I think it had
    some sort of a midi monitor, i.e. showed you what was going out the
    midi port.
    
    md
    
    ps I'll d/l med213 from tape tonight and try it soon.  imagine has
    caught my attention at the moment. :^)
    
4107.8running out of ideas!FSCORE::KAYEwhere's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-gThu Dec 06 1990 00:3212
I got MidiTools from FF227. If i select the keyboard & hit the keys
with the mouse i see lots of pulses going to my keyboard, but no
sounds. I tried Midi In to Midi Out, but it hung the machine just like
Bars&Pipes. I tried to send some program changes, nothing. I must
admit that a couple of times while 'mousing' the keyboard i did get a
sustained note from the keyboard. Is this a case of not enough current
to drive the receivers in the keyboard properly. I wired my own cables
straight thru (5<->5, 4<->4, ground on pin 2).
Any ideas welcome...

 mark

4107.9Home made cablesDECWET::DAVISnice computers don't go downThu Dec 06 1990 04:0612
    I am using the ECE midi interface and wired my own cables also.  All my
    cables are about 15' long.  They are not "midi spec" cables but they
    work fine.  I made them so long ago that I do not remember the
    specifics but I did make sure that they were properly grounded. 
    Someone told me that grounding was critical.  I believe I got the specs
    from an old "electronic musician" magazine.  I am d/l med tonight, I'll
    see if it works for me.  I would double check the cables, though.
    
    md
    
    
    
4107.10FWIWDECWET::DAVISnice computers don't go downThu Dec 06 1990 04:3311
    mark,
    
    I tried med213 from TAPE:: and it locks up my machine also.  Might be
    due to my non-standard configuration.  anyway, I found the article on
    midi cables and 5<->5, 4<->4, 2<->2(shield) is the correct cabling.  It
    was mentioned that cross-connecting the conductors will "lock up" your
    unit.  It also gave a couple of simple cable testing circuits using 9v
    batteries, 3 LEDs and 3 resistors.  If you like, I will type them in.
    
    md
    
4107.11problem foundFSCORE::KAYEwhere's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-gFri Dec 07 1990 11:498
I found the problem. When i added the EIA <-> TTL converters they also
inverted the signal. I left all the other connections in, so i ended
up inverting the signal again thru the 7404. I bypassed the 7404 and
all works find. Sometimes i can be really dumb. I guess i gotta work
with this digital stuff all the time to keep the brain cells
refreshed.

 mark (ex FS Tech)
4107.12MED mini-reviewXSTACY::PATTISONDaveMon Feb 25 1991 12:0332
4107.13MED (Music EDitor) V3.0 on TAPE::STAR::ROBINSONWed Mar 20 1991 19:568
I just sent the new version of the MED music editor to TAPE.  This
vesion is much larger than past versions and includes sample editing,
a demo, and a bunch of samples in the archive.  I haven't tried it
yet cause I just got it by FTP.  The LZH file lists OK on VMS and
some USENET folks are giving MED3.0 good reviews.

 TAPE::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]MED30.LZH