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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4099.0. "HardFrame Upgrade" by ARRODS::GOLDSTEIN (Steve G DTN: 847-5415) Tue Sep 11 1990 12:47

    
    	Has anybody out there with a HardFrame received the new upgrade
    info/upgrade YET...
    
    	I hear it's now Available...
    
    	Steve G 
    	Still waiting...
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4099.1What Upgrade????NSSG::SULLIVANSteven E. SullivanTue Sep 11 1990 14:505
What upgrade are you refering to?? I have not seen any announcement by 
Microbotics of an upgrade on BIX, and that is usually one of the first
places they announce things, given there support conference is there.

	-SES
4099.2EEProm and new S/WARRODS::GOLDSTEINSteve G DTN: 847-5415Tue Sep 11 1990 15:425
    
    The upgrade is a NEW EEPROM (2)supporting removeable disk (Sequest)
    and Tape units .....
    
    	Steve G
4099.3NSSG::SULLIVANSteven E. SullivanTue Sep 11 1990 21:1813
I have been testing the V1.8 rom for a while. It does not have the disk 
change support - that comes in a seperate program available from their
support conference on BIX. As I understand it the 1.8 ROM fixes problems
that existed with multi-host arbitration and busy responses to SCSI
commands. That could well accomidate tape support, but does not inherently
provide it.

The above information is from direct observation of the software/hardware 
or direct communications with Microbotics. It is my opinion that the 
HardFrame product and supporting software RDPrep(x) is the best on the
market. Industrial Strength.

	-SES
4099.4there is a new GVP disk controller upgrade outALICAT::MANDERSONLive simply = simply liveMon Sep 17 1990 12:3524
    Re disk controller upgrade.
    
    If you are referring to the upgrade for the GVP SCSI I got mine last
    week. 
    
    I did back to back tests on old/new controller. WOW..... diskspeed3.1 -
    no contention, extreemly fragmented disk went from a best of about
    270kb to over 780kb/sec.
    
    with both dma and cpu contention old controller was about 100kb/sec new
    was still at 780kb/sec.... I am going to backup/restore to get a clean
    partition and try it then. (or has anyone got a defragmenter just lying
    around????)
    
    the upgrade cost me a board swap and $A280. there is also a ROM upgrade
    for about $50. which gets the speed up by about 30-50% (apparently)
    
    just love the speed - don't think I will need a microbiotics after all
    Steve :-}
    
    regards
    	k
    
    
4099.5GVP Upgrade?DUGGAN::GAYNow where'd I put that hammer...Mon Sep 17 1990 13:085
    GVP upgrade?  I've got a hardcard.  Is the upgrade relvent to me?
    
    Yours
    Erg
    
4099.6Couple of Questions here...SHARE::DOYLEMon Sep 17 1990 13:389
      I've got some questions myself.
      I purchased the "A2000 HC+8 Series II card from GVP.
      It came with v3.1 eproms in it, these are the newest correct?
      Also, I shouldn't need any additional hardware (roms) to be able
      to use a tape-backup system (scsi)?
    
							Thanks,
    								Ed
    
4099.7WJG::GUINEAUMon Sep 17 1990 14:2615
re .5:
	yup. You can "trade in" your old one with some cash for a Series II.

re .6:

>      It came with v3.1 eproms in it, these are the newest correct?
yes.

>      Also, I shouldn't need any additional hardware (roms) to be able
>      to use a tape-backup system (scsi)?

Other than a tape drive, nope.

john
4099.8Any Idea's on Tape-Drive?SHARE::DOYLEMon Sep 17 1990 15:1217
  Well I've got a Cipher QIC-150, but this won't run on the card....
  My setup is as follows:

	I'm using an 80 meg hard-drive as unit 0 and tape-drive as unit 2
  The hard-drive is first on the cable the tape is second. 
	The resistor pack is removed from the hard-drive and is still installed
  in the tape-drive.
        When I start it up, the green light on the tape-drive stays on, and the 
  system hangs (never boots up, stays at white screen).
	If I disconnect the data cable and leave the power-cable attached,
  the green light on the tape-drive comes on mommentarily and then goes off,
  then the hard-drive boots normaly.
  
	    Any Ideas?
							Thanks 
								Ed
  
4099.9More info on the tradein please...CSSE32::SMITHReality, just a visible imagination?Tue Sep 18 1990 02:4714
    
     re: .7
    
    > yup. You can "trade in" your old one with some cash for a Series II. 
    
    How about trading in a busted 2090A?  Do they happen to say if the
    controller has to work?  I wanted to add some memory soon to my system
    and perhaps the best way would be to get a disk ctrl with 8M expansion.
    This would allow me upgrade to a bigger SCSI disk sometime.  Can you
    use the memory alone?
    
    
    ...Ed 
    
4099.10WJG::GUINEAUTue Sep 18 1990 11:043
I think the trade in has to be a gvp card, but I'm not sure.

john
4099.11Any controller, any conditionMSVAX::BARRETTI must not waste chalkTue Sep 18 1990 12:3817
    The trade-in can be ANY disk controller in ANY shape -- you get
    more if it's a working GVP or CBM controller however. It's all
    described on page 3 or 4 of their AmigaWorld ad. I thinks you can
    get more for a working controller by selling it rather than trading
    it in though.
    
    I bought myself the new Series II Impact RAM+DISK card with 2meg
    memory and Quantum 100meg drive -- great controller!
    
    I called GVP when I was looking for it; at the time BriWall was
    the only mail order frim that actually carried the item in stock
    -- the others had to order it. This is not that bad though; I have
    a friend that ordered it and it arrived in less than 2 weeks. Mine
    was overnight ;-).

    
    Keith
4099.12GVP phone number needed..SHARE::DOYLETue Sep 18 1990 14:095
    Does anyone have GVP's Tech support line handy?
    		
    							Thanks;
    								Ed
    
4099.13LEDS::ACCIARDILarger than life, and twice as uglyTue Sep 18 1990 16:475
    
    GVP (215) 337-8770
    FAX (215) 337-9922
    
    
4099.14Thanks!SHARE::DOYLETue Sep 18 1990 17:571
    
4099.15tapedriver wantedARRODS::GOLDSTEINSteve G DTN: 847-5415Wed Sep 19 1990 09:287
 
I have a Microbotics HardFrame and have aquired a TEAC cassette tape unit..
It the MT-2ST-45S (50/60 meg) My question is does the HardFrame (firmware 1.5 
Software 1.58) support this or any other tape drives...AND is there any PD or
commercial software to use IT...
 
    I haven't upgraded it yet But looking for a tapedriver...
4099.16WJG::GUINEAUWed Sep 19 1990 11:134
see note (a recent one) for tape-handler.

dir/title=tape might find it...
john
4099.17What's memory cost to add the the GVP series IICSSE32::SMITHReality, just a visible imagination?Wed Sep 19 1990 12:3118
Since I was planning to get a SUPRA 4/8M (now selling for as low as $339), I
thought I should price out the GVP controller with memory.  The Amiga world ad
indicated that a trade-in price of $109 + $39 (with 0/8M memory) or $148. 

Some questions for those who may have this board... 

What kind of memory does this board take?

So how much would it cost to add 4M to this?  

Since I would eventually like to get a SCSI drive perhaps this would be a better
option than the SUPRA.  I just happen to have a broken 2090A around to trade-in.
;')


Thanx,

...Ed
4099.18EUCLID::OWENRent-to-own a clueWed Sep 19 1990 13:307
    re .17
    
    Unless I'm mistaken, the GVP trade-up offer is only good if you send
    them a _working_ controller.
    
    Steve
    
4099.19MSVAX::BARRETTI must not waste bandwidthWed Sep 19 1990 13:549
    Re: -1   The ad says it can be in any condition -- it doesn't have
    to be working.
    
    
    Re: GVP memory.
    
    
    Well, The 2 1meg SIMMS I just added to my Impact II cost about $160
    total.