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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4070.0. "Looking for IFF pictures" by DECWET::DAVIS (You always get what you deserve) Fri Aug 31 1990 17:50

    About 8 mos ago I stumbled upon an E-net site with a huge archive of
    IFF pictures.  I downloaded a few vowing to get the others later.  Now
    I cannot remember the site that had the pics.  I am doing a lot of
    "brush mapping" in Silver and want to build up MY archive of IFF
    pictures.  Can anyone guide me to this site?
    
    mark
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4070.1WELSWS::FINNISFri Aug 31 1990 23:506
    
    
    I can tell where you can find .gif files that you can convert !!
    
    
    			- Pete -
4070.2.gif and any other formatDECWET::DAVISYou always get what you deserveSat Sep 01 1990 21:115
    That would be ok.  Now to read through the Gif conversion notesfiles
    again unless someone wants to recommend the ULTIMATE gif conversion
    software.  I am leaning toward The Art Dept.
    
    mark
4070.3TAD is the way!NSSG::SULLIVANSteven E. SullivanSat Sep 01 1990 21:439
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>   I am leaning toward The Art Dept.

So do I! TAD does a remarkably superior job for me than any other I
have found plus it is orders of magnitude more flexible. The high res
interlaced 16 color version of the astronaut spacewalking direct from
the GIF is an astounding example of this.

	-SES
4070.4do you use the GIF loaderSALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Sep 04 1990 09:449
    I also use,and like TAD. Remember though, TAD will not load GIF
    directly without the purchase of the GIF loader. I have been converting
    to RGB using GiftoRGB,then loading the file. re .2 are you converting,
    or do you have the GIF loader ? If you have the loader could you give
    some info on it's features ? Recently I have been looking for pictures
    I can use on distributable material. I don't believe many of the 
    pictures that are available meet this criteria. I plan to make a trip
    to the library,and see what is available.(copyright has expired etc).
    Can anyone offer any info on sources for pics of this nature ?
4070.5NSSG::SULLIVANSteven E. SullivanTue Sep 04 1990 13:469
I am using the GIF module for TAD. Just like any other TAD module...
just loads up the file in 8 or 24 bit format!

The quality of the result is very much like using GIF2RGB to make a
24bit deep IFF file, then loading it into TAD. Using the GIF loader saves
lots of disk space and is much more convenient than GIF2RGB. Either will
work, but for less than $40 I think the GIF loader is a steal!

	-SES
4070.6have to get itSALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Sep 04 1990 15:364
    I guess I'll have to invest in the Gif loader. Money is tight this
    month (birthday + N.H.= broke),but I'll work at it. I did not realize 
    they were shipping the GIF loader yet.
    								bill
4070.7If you're serious, you might want to wait on that GIF loader...TENAYA::MWMTue Sep 04 1990 17:2918
TAD Professional is out (or should be out soon). The press releases I've
seen indicate that it comes with the GIF loader. The upgrade cost is $75,
meaning that it's only slightly more expensive than two loaders.

On the plus side, it comes with an ARexx interface, so you can program it to
convert a directory full of pictures while you're doing something else. (That's
the main reason I haven't ordered the GIF loader - I want that ARexx interface!)
It also comes with a collection of other loaders, and the ability to save
to those formats as well as load from them. Finally, it's got hooks to
talk to lots of different output devices, writing direct from the 24-bit
image.

Summary: if you're thinking about buying _any_ loaders for TAD, you should
check out the PRO version. It might save you money in the long run. If you're
sure you're only going to buy that one loader, then it's probably not worth
it.

	<mike
4070.8WELSWS::FINNISTue Sep 04 1990 20:346
    
    I'll sort out some locations for pictures and post them here
    
    
    
    			- Pete -
4070.9just gets better and betterSALEM::LEIMBERGERWed Sep 05 1990 09:1012
    
    re .7 
    	Thanks for the Tip. I'll save the cost of the Gif loader toward the
    pro update. That sounds exciting to me. The added ability to convert to
    and from the various graphic formats alone is mindboggling,and this
    with arexx support!!!!! I plan to call ASDG for info on any updates to
    tad ,and see what they say. $75.00 is actually cheap if you look at it
    from the purchasing loaders aspect. Of course if you run a graphics
    based business this program is a godsend,and I am sure the equal in the
    Mac,or IBM world would come quite a bit steeper. Now there is a great
    opportunity for an enterprising soul. 
    								bill
4070.10limit of ten picsSALEM::LEIMBERGERFri Sep 07 1990 11:1920
    In talking with ASDG I found that TAD now comes with the Sculpt,and
    Impulse loaders included. They make a point of saying these were
    included free on the packaging. Now if I want this upgrade 1.0.2
    it will take my orginal disk,and $25.00. I think that if a person
    purchases the first revision of a product they should have a better
    deal in an instance like this. If the price of the software had
    increased I could see charging the $25.00. But this is not the case.
    I am calling today to express my thoughts. I'll wait and upgrade to the
    professional version.
    	Well I took a trip to the library,and it paid off. I found a book
    on antique brass weathervanes. The pics are in grayscale,and scan
    great. They have a very high degree of detail. I scaned a dragon as
    my test case. In the copyright notice it stated that because these
    pictures were part of an archive, you could use up to ten in any one
    publication without permission. (clipart books offer this also)
    On the shelf next to it was another book with many of the same pics
    that stated you could not use the pictures. Guess which book I took
    home ! You cannot duplicate these for inclusion in another art
    distribution package though.
    								bill
4070.11AMIGA2::MCGHIEThank Heaven for small Murphys !Sat Sep 08 1990 00:476
Hi Bill,

could you upload the iff picture of the Dragon ?

Regards
	Mike
4070.12GIF online...WELSWS::FINNISMon Sep 10 1990 00:2413
    
    
    For a Short period of time there will be lots of .GIF pictures at the 
    following location..
    
    		Use GIF2IFF to change them...
    
    
    			- Pete -
    Some may not convert but most do...
    
    
    
4070.13Where ?WELSWS::FINNISMon Sep 10 1990 00:258
    
    Sorry I forgot to say where....
    
    			
    		welsws::dja3:[gif]*.*
    
    
    			-= Pete =-
4070.14Check out CSCMAS::MSVAX::BARRETTI did not see ElvisSun Sep 09 1990 18:204
    There are also more GIF pictures online that you could possibly want
    on CSCMAS:: -- see the IBMPC notes file for details.
    
    Keith
4070.15Now in IFFWELSWS::FINNISMon Sep 10 1990 19:0812
    
    Thanks but I got a load from there anyway..
    
    
    A lot have now been converted using gif2iff -dp source dest 
    
    IFF now in  welsws::dja3:[iff]
    
    
    
    			-= Pete =-
    
4070.16MSVAX::BARRETTExperience Far Fig Newton?Mon Sep 10 1990 19:232
    I tried to take a look at them, but got a protection violation.
    Any chance you could make them available?
4070.17OkWELSWS::FINNISMon Sep 10 1990 20:018
    
    
    Ok ...
    
    		Also try welsws::dja3:[pictures]
    
    			-= Pete =-
    
4070.18Where can I order TAD from, and who is ASDGBSS::CALLAGHANlast hymn is sung, Devil cries MORETue Sep 18 1990 17:029
    
    	Can someone give me a reference point of ordering 
    	TAD (The Art Dept.), and also who is ASDG?
    
    		This sounds like the tool I need, and I'd 
    		like to get access to it!!
    
    						thanks,
    							Jack
4070.19NSSG::SULLIVANSteven E. SullivanTue Sep 18 1990 17:433
Most amiga dealers carry TAD. I know the Software Shop had it in stock Saturday.
Last time I was in Memory Location in Wellsley MA they had it. The Software
shop does mail order and has an ad in Amiga World.
4070.20Superview, anyone?WHAMMY::SPODARYKScaring the pedestrians...Wed Sep 19 1990 03:529
    A while ago (couple of weeks maybe?) I remember seeing a pointer to
    a new version of superview.  Is this true, or have I completely lost 
    it?  I can't seem to find it in any of the "normal" locations.
    
    What are some of your favorite .iff viewers.  Superview has been my 
    choice (due to speed mainly), but I'm really finding a lot of bugs 
    lately.  I'm hoping some of them have been fixed.
    
    Steve
4070.21Try MostraDECWET::DAVISYou always get what you deserveWed Sep 19 1990 05:219
    I ditched superview for Mostra.  It will also view Dyna-Ham(if you have
    the viewer in your search path) and sliced-ham pictures.  If the
    picture is larger than your screen size it allows you to "scroll
    around" the picture, plus a whole lot of extras.  It also loads and
    views pictures much faster than superview.  I still use superview
    occasionally for running animations but Mostra is my "main" viewing
    utility.  I believe the version of superview I use is 3.0.
    
    mark
4070.22make sure you get latest versionSALEM::LEIMBERGERWed Sep 19 1990 09:3115
    re .18 
    	I saw the latest version of TAd at System Eyes. It is 2.0
    compatable,and has the loaders for Impulse,and the other popular 3D 
    rendering(sorry mental block) included. Steve has also placed an order
    for the professional version. I booted it on the 3000 with 2.0 and it
    looked real nice. I will upgrade to the professional as soon as I get
    the mailer. ASDG are the people that gave us the original recoverable
    ram disk. I have their JX100 scanner,and the software they developed
    for it.(scanner is made by Sharp). ASDG puts out a level of quality
    that should serve as an example for many developers. Funny how they
    keep the use of menus to a minimum and still offer one of the most user
    friendly packages around. Pixel 3D also uses a non amiga interface that
    belies the power of the software in it's ease of use. Don't buy TAD
    unless you know it is version 2.0 .
    								bill
4070.23MSVAX::BARRETTI must not waste bandwidthWed Sep 19 1990 13:512
    I also switched to MOSTRA; although I keep Superview around as a
    "backup".
4070.24Problems with MOSTRA?CSSE32::SMITHReality, just a visible imagination?Wed Sep 19 1990 14:095
Has anyone else had a problem with MOSTRA displaying DPIII pictures?  I seem
to GURU everytime.  If I load the picture into DigiView and just save it 
again, no problem.

...Ed
4070.25No problems here.DECWET::DAVISYou always get what you deserveWed Sep 19 1990 15:463
    So far I haven't had any problems with any IFF graphics.
    
    md
4070.26They're here at lastWELSWS::FINNISThu Aug 01 1991 21:588
    I've just uploaded some converted GIF pictures to TAPE::
    
    They take the form Pictures_[a,b,c,d,etc...].lzh
    
    They are of mixed quality but may provide some amusement :-)
    
    			-Pete-