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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3600.0. "It Came From The Desert" by KURMA::GAITKENHEAD (Meat Cleaver Lobotomy) Wed Mar 21 1990 19:10

    I had a quick look through the directory and noticed that there was no
    mention of this brilliant game. I can only assume that either no one
    has it or no one likes it !!! I find this quite hard to believe 'cause
    in my opinion it was the game which urged me to purchase a memory
    expansion card for my A500.
    Description :
    The game is set in a small American desert town called "Lizard Breath",
    you play a doctor who is there investigating a Comet which impacted
    near the town. In true 'B' movie tradition the comet was highly
    radioactive and low and behold the desert ants near the impact site
    have became 8 ft high with a bad atitude toward's the human race !!!
    Your task is to collect 4 pieces of evidence (a piece of ant,a sample
    of ant liquid ???,a tape recording of the sound they make and a cast of
    one of there foot prints), when this evidence is collected you can then
    tell the mayor who will then put the national guard at your disposal.
    With a tank regiment and fighter support you have to find the ant's
    nest and kill the queen ant before they over-run the town and
    eventually the world !!!!
    It's hard to place this game in a catagory, the start is like a
    graphical adventure with many arcade-type sequences. Your options are
    all menu driven and the outcome of the game depends on your decisions.
    Collecting the evidence is quite time consuming (1 second of real time
    is equivelent to 1 min of game time) and you only have 15 days to
    convince the mayor of the threat and kill the queen ant. One good thing
    is that the hero (you) can never die and if you are ever injured (i.e
    during a rasor fight,tangle with an ant,aircraft crash,car crash while
    playing chicken with the Hellcats,etc,etc, the list is endless) you are
    transported to the hospital. If you can't waste precious time in there
    you have the option to escape which is a great arcade sequence as you
    evade nurses and orderlies either on foot or in a wheelchair.
    Graphically the game is superb and the stereo soundtrack is so
    athmospheric you would think it had been taken straight out of the
    classic film "THEM".
    My only critisim is that there is quite a lot of disk swapping but if
    you have two drives then ther will be no problem.
    It's a massive game which will keep me and anyone who buy's it playing
    for months.
    If anyone out there has been playing it then this is a good opportunity
    to put suggestions, tip's, etc into this note.
    
    							George
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3600.1KURMA::GAITKENHEADMeat Cleaver LobotomyWed Mar 21 1990 19:154
    I did'nt mention it but the game is written by CINEMAWARE.
    
    						Geo.
    
3600.2IT IS CALLED "IT CAME FROM THE DESERT"DECWET::DAVISIf the truth hurts, then so be it!Wed Mar 21 1990 19:221
    
3600.3What were the other 'ANT' B-movies called ??KURMA::GAITKENHEADMeat Cleaver LobotomyWed Mar 21 1990 20:129
    re .02
    I know it's called "IT CAME FROM THE DESERT". I did'nt think that would
    fit into the description without chopping some letters off so I was
    planning to put the title at the top of the note but as you so kindly
    pointed out I forgot. Sorry about the confusion but this night shift
    does wierd things to my brain.
    
    						Geo
    
3600.4BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonWed Mar 21 1990 21:3216
    there are previous notes that mention this game.
    
    re: the other ANT movies   I believe the classic is called "THEM"
    I wonder if any more related movie conversions are planned, after all
    there were a lot of giant insect movies, why just limit it to ants.
    
    Has anybody been able to escape from the hospital?  Maybe it's
    just me, but my impression from the manual was that you just go out
    the main doors on the first floor.  But they won't open.  Hints?
    
    -Dave
    p.s. anybody send for the IT CAME FROM THE DESERT II: "ANT HEADS"? 
    the ad says "make your reservations now for the first ever double
    creature feature".
    ($14.95 + product registration card, requires DESERT I to run)
    
3600.5KIRKTN::GAITKENHEADMeat Cleaver LobotomyThu Mar 22 1990 02:2016
    I've escaped from the hospital once.
    You have to go to the ground floor to escape. This can be done by going
    down the stairs or the lift. If you are on foot you get overwhelmed on
    the ground floor so use a wheelchair if possible. When you come to the
    front door's there are two security guards but you simply have to go
    in between them to escape.
    Q:  Has anyone managed to win in a razor fight ???????
    I have'nt seen any notes mentioning this game but as access times are
    so long here in Scotland I have'nt really got the time to have a good
    look.
    ANT MOVIES
    If I remember correctly, Clint Eastwood play's a fighter pilot in
    "THEM"
    
						Geo.
    
3600.6Knife fightDECWET::DAVISIf the truth hurts, then so be it!Thu Mar 22 1990 15:047
    No wonder I always get caught on the first floor.  I look for a
    wheel-chair next time.  I won the knife fight once, but it was more
    luck than anything else.  I just waited until [whatever his name is]
    lunged at me then I blocked his thrust and stabbed.  FWIW.
    
    
    mark
3600.7Version II not available yetREDSOX::MURATORIRich Muratori, SEG/CAD, HLO2Thu Mar 22 1990 15:1311
    My son got this game for Christmas and loves it.  We ordered ICFTD II
    right after Christmas.  Around the last week in February my son called
    Cinemaware to find out the status of our order.  He was told that it
    wasn't ready yet and would begin shipping the end of the month. 
    Unfortunately, he didn't have the rep clarify which month.  We're still
    waiting.
    
    He's finished the game and can answer most any question about it. I'll
    act as go-between since I know very little about it myself.
    
    Rich
3600.8BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonFri Mar 23 1990 03:049
    The knife fight is easy if you do a sort of circular rotation of the
    joystick, it's the long sweeping jabs that work.  Otherwise he gets
    too close and can do a lot of damage quickly.
    
    I've gotten to the main door on first floor with a wheelchair, but
    with or without the wheelchair haven't been able to get the door
    to open.  Will try running between the security guards.
    
    -Dave
3600.9a replyAKOV13::DOUGANSat Mar 24 1990 18:138
    Are you dudes a bunch of mutated wimps or what? Just attack ferociously
    in the knife fight and you'll be sure to win. It's hard to get out of the hospital but go right to get to the main
    doors and not left although this appears more difficult at first. The
    ant nest is best reached by plane with a desert landing below mine 3.
    Turn left at the airport and then turn diagionaly left over the next
    farm. Time your landing well and you might make it in; its pretty
    difficult but a lot of fun. Nice game huh?!
    
3600.10another replyAUNTB::JUDDaka beejThu Mar 29 1990 22:028
    You can escape the hospital by getting close to the guards, then
    turn and run -- getting them to chase you.  I run to the nearest
    bed and jump in until they leave.  The guards will then start
    moving through the hospital looking for you.  That leaves the
    front doors unguarded.
    
    I can get into the nest, locate the queen but when I release the
    bomb, I never have time to escape.  It's a great game...
3600.11"ANTHEADS" IT CAME FROM THE DESSERT II!SHARE::DOYLEMon Apr 30 1990 15:5827
Discription                          Manufacturer             Suggest ABEL'S
                                                              Retail  PRICE!

It Came From The Desert II Antheads- Cinemaware(MirrorSoft) - $ 29.95 $ 17.75

         ***********************************************************
         * Dateline: January 1st, 1956 -- Lizard Breath California *
         ***********************************************************

     Rumours have surfaced over the past five years that giant ants have been
spotted in the mountains surrounding Lizard Breath, but most people have
written them off as delayed hysteria. These days the local inhabitants are more
concerned with the "big bucks" that the governments Atomic Testing Program is
pumping into the local economy. Even the strange stories that have surfaced
about Melville Hospital had been ignored in the rush to embrace an all atomic
future, but that was until Brick Nash stole a truck load of plutonium
detonators and headed for Dr Wells deserted laboratory...

     Is the nightmare beginning again? Is it safe to go submarine watching in
the desert? And why do some poople around town get this funny look in their
eyes when you mention candy bars? Find ouy in "ANTHEADS" It Came From The
Desert II!

Requirements: 1 Meg & It Came From The Desert

Manufacturer: Cinemaware/Mirrorsoft Ltd. Irwin House 118 Southwark Street,
              London SE1 OSW  Phone# 01-928 1454
3600.12Hard Drive ProblemsNITMOI::WITHERSAnother Hallmark Moment. -Al BundyThu Jul 26 1990 14:2015
Hello all!  I'm having trouble installing "It Came From The Desert" onto
the harddrive of my A2000.  I get a guru whenever I try to run it from the
harddrive.  I even got a guru attempting to run it from the disks they give
with the harddrive turned on.  I have to turn the harddrive off and boot
cold from floppies to get it to work.

My thought is that maybe I have too little memory with the harddrive up.  It
is a 150Mg CDC Wren III harddrive broken into 5 partitions.  The drive is SCSI
and is controlled by an A2090.  Can anyone who is still playing this game
from a harddrive tell me what an AVAIL reads before running it?

Has anyone else had problems with installing it on a harddrive on a 1Meg
A2000?

George
3600.13I had success with thissHPSCAD::GATULISFrank Gatulis 297-6770Thu Jul 26 1990 16:4822
    
    I don't have it on my hard drive at the moment but I used to run it
    that way.  Here's what experienced  (A2000, 5meg, old Agnus).
    
    1. I had it set up to run from an ICON.  Before I could click on that
       ICON I had to shut down every other window and task or it would
       GURU.   After doing this, I could run the game reliably and 
       repeatably.
    
    2. Once started, I know of no way to get back to the system.  Re-boot
       was my standard exit sequence!
    
    It's well worth the effort of putting it on hard disk if your're gonna
    spend any time at this game.  I couldn't stand it from floppy due to 
    the speed of loading all the scenes.
    
    I Quarterbacked the program after getting it running on hard disk so
    if you have difficulty getting it running I can go back and tell you
    exactly how I did it.  
    
    Frank
    
3600.14A couple of possibilitiesLODGE::LENDavid M. LenThu Jul 26 1990 17:2013
    I have an auto mounting hard drive, and I use to have problems with
    certain games.  Initially the buffers for the drive could be either
    fast or chip, when I changed it to request only fast, my problems ended
    (I have a 2MB expansion board).
    
    I also reccomend shuting down any background programs before you start.
    I run Qmouse and if I left it running when I started Desert, I would get
    trashed graphics from time to time.  Other than this Qmouse interaction,
    I have had no problem running Desert from my hard drive.
    
    From what I remember of the installation instructions, you would still
    need to use the original floppy for the program startup.  But you can
    copy the startup file to the hard drive and edit it to work from there.
3600.15got it and don't got itNITMOI::WITHERSAnother Hallmark Moment. -Al BundyFri Jul 27 1990 16:3216
Well.. it did seem to be memory.  I set up a user-selected startup-sequence
on the drive and selected a startup with nothing but the boot partition.  I
then mounted the games partition and ran it fine ... until ...

viturally all the way thru the game (one session) the game guru'ed (i don't 
have the exact number here).  It was after entering the situation map phase,
after the town had been on alert.  Anyone see anything like this?  Could it
be that I had barely enough memory to run it and this section (near the end)
tried for more that it couldn't get?  What setting on "BufMemType" in the
MountList specifies Fast Mem Only?

I'd have been more upset except that everyone in the town was dead and there
were at lease three active ant infestations :-)  Anyone play the sequel, yet?
is it as good?

George
3600.16BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonTue Jul 31 1990 01:5812
    It could be.  The version I have is real touchy about what runs
    before it - as if having it run from the hard disk was tossed
    in at the last minute.  I have the impression that since it
    doesn't let you exit back to the workbench, it just takes
    over the system and assumes all memory is ok to use.
    Keep as little as possible in chip memory.
    
    I have the sequel, it's the same game with a couple twists.  Not too
    bad for the price, particularly if you like hunting ants.  It does
    seem to be a little better with the harddisk support.
    
    Dave
3600.17Thanx for the hints, Anyone tried RAM:HPSRAD::BOAENMon Sep 30 1991 02:0730
	Hi, Just got a copy of IT.. and also IT..II. System Eyes has
IT on sale for $25 (while they last). and I got them to throw in
part II for an additonal $10 by bying both at once.

	I think the preceeding notes have given me the Clue for my
hard drive problems (Runs fine till in the hospital, then gurus
as soon as I get out of bed.) I'm going to build a boot WB that
just mounts the hard drive, but doesn't really start up Snap,
Gomf,Arexx,... It'll be a couple of weeks till I can get to it, but
the extra speed will be worth it. Has anyone tried running from RAM:
or RAD: ?? I've got 4Meg fast RAM, so If I can use it, it should
really speed things up.

	Hmm, think I'll just try copying the hard drive desert
directory to RAM: and tell the startup sequence to go from there.
Has anyone had anyluck running without Desert1: in DF0: on a hard drive
system?

	I really like this type of game IT and Rocket Ranger are
the only games I've really gotten into. I don't have arcade reflexes,
so the strategic thinking appeals to me. Does anyone know of other
games with similar flavors to these? Silent Service is #3 on my list,
and again it's got similar interactive strategy. I haven't gotten too
enthusiastic about 'dungeon' type games, they seem to take lots and
lots of patience to memorize everything. The pace seems better on
CinemaWare's stuff. BTW, I heard a rumor CinemaWare went under.
Anything to it?? Given the quality of these games, I hope the
rumor's false.

'Gards, Verell
3600.18BOMBE::MOOREAmiga: Where 'multimedia' REALLY beganMon Sep 30 1991 06:472
    Alas, Cinemaware is gone.  I've heard that another company now owns
    rights to their products...