Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    
    I downloaded this and unpacked it with LHWarp 1.20 (latest release,
    17-Jan-90).  The unpacking seemed to go fine.
    
    I booted with disk one, and got a few simple color graphics and
    scrolling messages, one of which told me to 'click the right mouse
    button to pause loading'.  This action merely made the words 'LOADING'
    toggle on and off.  I let it load for over 10 minutes, but nothing
    happened.
    
    I then tried pausing the loading and inserting disk 2, which produced
    no noticable effect.
    
    So, for my 2.5 hour download, I got to see a picture of a skeleton in a
    leather jacket lighting a smoke.  I assume there's more, but what
    gives?
    
    FWIW, I'm using a Super Agnus and a standard 68000 (this week).
    
    Ed.

    
    I just tried this on an Amiga with a 68030 and 68882 with 4 meg
    of  32 bit ram.  It worked until it asked for DISK 2.  I put in
    disk 2 and the Amiga crashed.
    
    How much memory do you need to run this demo?
    
    

Same here, both on 62020 (3 meg) and 68000 (1 meg all fast).

It never asked for a second disk, but I discovered that several pauses
(click right mouse button) would make it read a bit more off the floppy
(not every time though) and then either hang or crash.

68020 gurued every time around the same point (maybe it tried to ask for 
disk 2?)

Booting disk 2 gave the start of a different demo, but never got very far 
(same results as disk 1)

John

John is on the right track. Yes indeed, repeated clicking of the right mouse
button does somehow force it to read (load) some more of the floppy. I managed
to see the entire demo (not bad but no wild copper) by feeling the disk while
pressing RMB. A quick double click would usually result in several track reads.
Sometimes I would need to 'pause the load' long enough for the drive light to go
out. Then it would again read in a few more tracks. You really need to feel the
drive while doing this in order to determine if it is reading. Their 'custom
loader', asside from not working :'(  makes little or no noise.

Pessistance will (may) prevail. It was such a long download I felt compelled
to see this thing.

I thought I had marginal floppies... ha!

I couldn't fit MEGA1.LHW onto a 720K MSDOS floppy, so I wrote a little
utility to `split' a file into two chunks, and then later `rebuild'
the original.  I've been testing it out on archives, executables, etc,
and it works like a champ (it's quite simple).

This might be useful for people who only want to DL large demos in small
pieces, due to time constraints or line reliability.

Now someone's going to tell me that this already exists, right?  :^)

Find it at whammy::dka300:[public]splitter.zoo		! Code, Amiga version
                                  splitter_vms.zoo	! Code, VMS .exe, .obj

~Steve

--- .readme follows ---

/*
 *  Stephen Spodaryk   		25-jan-1989 
 *  smaug::spodaryk  
 *  spodaryk@smaug.dec.com 
 * 
 *  splitter.c 
 * 
 *  This program performs two functions: 
 * 
 *  o It will split a single file into two smaller files, which  
 *    can be put onto floppies, DL'd, etc, and later be `rebuilt'. 
 *    The original file should be in STREAM_LF format, but it didn't seem 
 *    to matter during my testing.   
 * 
 *    This syntax is: 
 * 
 *    $ splitter SPLIT oldfile <INTO> file1 <AND> file2 <SIZE> file1_size 
 *  
 *  o It may then be used to join two small files into one larger file. 
 * 
 *    The syntax is: 
 * 
 *    $ splitter REBUILD oldfile <FROM> file1 <AND> file2 
 *  
 *  The arguments in <>'s are optional. 
 * 
 *  - The VMS version is linked against the V5.x shareable image, so if 
 *    you're running an older version of VMS just do a:
 *    	  $ link stripper,sys$input/opt <return>
 *        sys$share:vaxcrtl/share <crtl-z>
 *
 *  That's it.
 */ 

    I personally won't even try to down load and run it (mega-demo). I
    don't trust anything from Red Sektor or any of those hacker groups.
    
    ken

    re:.6  It's been done, but on Unix :-)
    
    Any idea if your splitter is compatible with the Unix split?
    Many thanks anyway, it will be a great help for modem downloading.
    
    -Dave
    
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From: johnl@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (John Lindwall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Warp Source
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Date: 25 Jan 90 01:15:49 GMT
References: <BEAR.90Jan24104425@bass.bu.edu>
Reply-To: johnl@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (John Lindwall)
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[Previous article describes how the guy ftp's stuff to an MSDOS box,
 writes it to a 720k floppy, and uses CrossDOS to get it onto his Amiga.
 His problem is that some of the files are larger then 720k]
 
I go through the same yucky routine that you do.  One possibility is to
split the large file up into smaller pieces, and then reassemble them
when you've got them onto the Amiga.  Unix split will work if you use the
-b option.  Then join them on the Amiga.
 
 
 
-- 
John Lindwall                     |   "Not my employer opinions; mine"
johnl@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM     |   a man, a plan, a beer, reeban alpa nama
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    Have you ever tried the left Mouse-Button ?
    
    This should normally switch to the next Show..
    
    Right MB pauses..
    
    As far I can Write protect my HD and after such stuff switch off
    my AMI there is no technical possibility to get somewhat like
    an Virus into your System.
    
    Regards , Ingo
    

Did anyone ever get this past the first screen?

...Ed

    as in a previos reply I mentioned that you *MUST* click the RMB while
    the 'loading' indicaion is on. Sometimes a fast double click on RMB will
    coax it to read a track or two more. If double clicking seem to stop 
    working (determined be feeling the disk in DF0 for trtack seeks) you 
    will need to click RMB untill the drive light goes out. 
    Then click it again and it should read a track or two more. 
    Persistance is important.
    
    Let me mention that my initial reaction was nice but no big deal.
    Well.. I've since gone through this demo several time and it is
    EXCELLENT!.  Great original music scores and ultra-smooth animation.
    The Vactorballs type demo on the second disk is outstanding!
    
    You must however start with disk 0 and coax it through. It's
    frustrating and sometimes it seems that your not getting anywhere but
    you will... and IMHO its worth it.
    
    Good luck and stick with it.
    
    regards
    -bw