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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3246.0. "HELP !!!!" by EVER11::TEKOA::CANNON () Thu Dec 21 1989 19:34

	HELLO ALL YOU FELLOW AMIGERS,

	I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THE SOFTWARE I
	HAVE GOT. YOU SEE I HAD ALL OF MY MANUALS IN A
	FILE CABINET THAT MY ROOMATE TOOK WHEN HE LEFT.

	I CANT SEEM TO REMEMBER HOW TO DO ALLOT OF THINGS
	THAT I USED TO KNOW HOW TO DO, AND I NEED SOME
	HELP ON THE FOLLOWING THINGS.

		LATICE C (IM NOT SURE WHAT VERSION) 
		EXCELENCE
		PRO PAGE
		WORD PERFECT
		DUNGEON MASTER
		FALCON
		DELUXE PAINT III  AND VIDEO
		DELUXE PRODUCTIONS
		THE WORKS PLATINUM
		MUSIC X


	I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY OUT THERE COULD MAYBE
	LEND ME THE MANUALS FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS
	SO I COULD LOOK THEM OVER. MY ROOMATE LEFT
	AND I DONT KNOW WHERE HE WENT WITH MY MANUALS.
	I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK OVER THE MANUALS AND THEN
	RETURN THEM IN A FEW DAYS (I PROMISE).

	I KNOW THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO MAKE XEROX COPIES
	OF MANUALS, BECAUSE I WORK IN THE COPY CENTER.
	I WOULD NOT DO THIS, AND I THINK IT IS BAD. I
	JUST WANT TO LOOK THEM OVER FOR A MAYBE A DAY SO I
	COULD REFRESH MY MEMORY ABOUT HOW TO INSTALL
	OR RUN THEM.

	THANKS ALLOT 

	RICOH C.		
    
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3246.1SAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterFri Dec 22 1989 11:4111
    I have a very bad feeling about this.  While you may be able to
    remember what you need to know to use Falcon from just a few days of
    reading the documentation, that certainly isn't true of Lattice C
    or Music-X.
    
    I hate to accuse a fellow noter of lying, but what you are asking for
    is so unreasonable that I have to suspect that you posess illegal
    copies of this software and are trying to make illegal copies of the
    documentation to go with them.  I recommend that you chase down your
    roommate and get your documentation back from him.
        John Sauter
3246.2Try contacting the publishersCSC32::K_APPLEMANFri Dec 22 1989 12:487
    If you sent in your registration card for those programs, you should be
    able to obtain new manuals from the software publishers themselves for
    a nominal charge.  This will cost you some money, but that's the
    breaks.  I really doubt if anyone is going to send their own manuals
    out to anyone unless that person is well known to them.
    
    Ken
3246.3LEDS::ACCIARDIFri Dec 22 1989 14:4013
    
    I consider my manuals to be far more important than the media on which
    the software came, which can be easily duplicated or replaced.
    
    If I were you, I would expend all possible energy in tracking down my
    roommate.  Sounds to me like he's dissappeared with possibly thousands
    of dollars worth of your personal property.
    
    I personally feel uncomfortable when my manuals are more than a few
    feet from my fingertips, and I suspect most people who have a large
    cash investment feel the same way.
    
    Ed.
3246.4Of course he works in the copy centerWILARD::ROSCETTIA Spurious Char@cterFri Dec 22 1989 14:456
    
     Sorry but with a name like RICOH  CAN(n)ON I don't think you can
    be trusted not to make copies.
    
     Brien
    
3246.5Big Bucks SoftwareDICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Fri Dec 22 1989 16:2518
		LATICE C (IM NOT SURE WHAT VERSION) 
		EXCELENCE
		PRO PAGE
		WORD PERFECT
		DUNGEON MASTER
		FALCON
		DELUXE PAINT III  AND VIDEO
		DELUXE PRODUCTIONS
		THE WORKS PLATINUM
		MUSIC X

Wow! That's a pretty substantial amount of software! If my math serves
me correct, you have about $2,000 worth of software there. What type of
system do you have?

If you post the serial numbers here, we might be able to help you out.    

3246.6call publisherSALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Dec 26 1989 09:0113
    
    You had better get on the phone,and order the docs from the vendor.I
    lost one of my manuals at work for a day an became very distraught,
    and,I get upset if I misplace them when I am home.I lost the
    reference card to ProPage a year ago and am still in mourning.I
    think I'll call Gold Disk myself today.I cannot even comprehend a
    piece of documentation leaving my apartment.As for lattice you should
    be getting 5.04 in the mail soon,and you will get the mission disk
    when you update falcon(ask them for the documenation when you send
    in for your update,and mission disk)This also applies to ProPage.I
    am sure Gold Disk would be willing to help when you order v1.3.
    As for the others I do not have any experiance with them.
    								bill
3246.7takeing mine out of storageSALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Dec 26 1989 09:083
    re .1: I think when I get home tonight I'll take my stored
    documentation,and put it on a bookshelf.(where I can see it)
    							bill
3246.8Just Say NO!!HPSTEK::SENNATue Dec 26 1989 11:5316
    re .1
    
    I wouldn't want you on a jury! Although I must admit it does
    sound strange, I think we can be a little more open minded
    about this! Let's not make accusations when we have no proof!
    In the words of a great fighter of wrong "Just say NO!"
    
    re .0
    
    I think you can tell this is a serious matter. I would be 
    EXTREMELY surprized if anyone would lend you their manuals.
    Regardless of your intent or honesty, this kind of request
    ALWAYS provokes negative emotions and questions! I agree with
    the other suggestions, persue your roomate and/or contact the
    respective companies to get replacements. That is a substantial
    loss!
3246.9CSOA1::CURTISWed Dec 27 1989 11:242
    I agree with .1 - .8 !
    
3246.10and I still thinks it's a gagWILARD::ROSCETTIA Spurious Char@cterWed Dec 27 1989 11:593
    
    
    
3246.11WILARD::BARRETTWait'll they get a load of meFri Dec 29 1989 16:3210
    All uppercase letters?
    
    Calling everyone "fellow"?
    
    No "response" from him in over a week?
    
    I agree with .-1; sounds fishy. (no pun intended FF) 
    
    
P.S. I have a customer claiming that he lost all his VMS manuals. ;-)
3246.12The Sanctity of the the SystemDICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Tue Jan 02 1990 11:166
Just a reminder ... it is a violation of corporate policy to allow
access to Digital's systems by persons not employed by the company. That
includes offspring of employees. I know this rule has been violated on
this notes conference. I sure wish employees wouldn't give junior access
to our system just to keep him entertained.

3246.13Give the accusations a break huh?NZOV01::MCKENZIEStop Pollution: Leave a legacyTue Jan 02 1990 22:2937
    I can sympathize somewhat with .0
    
    I amassed a collection of games - all in their pretty little boxes
    etc and found I just didnt have room to keep all the packaging...
    I purchased a disk box and put all my disks in that, then took all the 
    manuals out of the boxes, disposed of the boxes and filed all the manuals.
    
    In a house move about 3 years later, a box containing about 15 manuals
    along with several odds and ends simply vanished! I dont know
    what happenned to it...
    
    I wrote letters to people such as infocom, quoting serial numbers
    where there were serial numbers and explaining the situation. I
    did not request that they send me the manuals, just that they provide
    me with replacement cost information so I could forward the money
    and the original disk if they felt that was necessary. 
    
    I have not received a SINGLE REPLY from any of the companies I 
    wrote to (with the exception of Cinemaware - my brother purchased
    Rocket Ranger for me as a present while in the US. We found it
    didnt work and returned it. I had to write 3 letters, each a little
    less polite and a little more nasty before I finally got replacement
    disks)
    
    I made do with most games, asking people for help where I could
    and using the old "trial and error" method where possible. I am
    just thankful it wasnt my Basic compiler manuals that went missing
    
    Call me stupid for losing the manuals in the first place but I was
    in a similar position to the author of .0 I dont mind being called
    stupid but I am liable to get mighty upset at being called a liar!
    
    It can happen folks...probably to anyone here under the right
    circumstances...    
    
    Back to your previously scheduled program...
    
3246.14SAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterMon Jan 08 1990 10:3910
    re: .8
    
    You aren't the only one who feels that way.  The second time I served
    on a jury, the lawyers worked out a settlement within 24 hours after we
    were empaneled.
    
    I sympathize with .13 more than with .0, because of the different
    feeling I get reading the notes.  I hope .13 made a claim with the
    moving company, and recovered the cost of the misplaced documentation.
        John Sauter
3246.15I don't believe it!!!CGOFS::R_RYANTue Jan 09 1990 15:052
    Come on you guys. This guy is pulling your leg! Ricoh Cannon.... as in
    photo copiers...
3246.16Simple dectective work suggests Mark Eklof @EVER11...STAR::ROBINSONTue Jan 09 1990 15:330
3246.17Wrong!11SRUS::MARKWaltzing with BearsTue Jan 09 1990 16:397
>Simple dectective work suggests Mark Eklof @EVER11...

	The problem with simple dectective work is that it's often wrong.  I had
nothing to do with this note.  I do think, though, that someone was playing a
joke. 

Mark Eklof