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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3162.0. "need help with VLT" by CIMNET::KYZIVAT (Paul Kyzivat) Wed Nov 29 1989 01:38

    I know there is a VLT note somewhere, but I couldn't find it, so I
    guess I will start another.

    I must be doing something stupid - I seem to be the only person having
    trouble getting VLT to work for me.

    It works, and can communicate with my Scholar modem - I can get the
    scholar to auto-dial for me, and when it connects (to a LAT), I can
    enter a RETURN which is recognized and gives me the LAT's "#" prompt
    for a password.  But then the password I enter is not recognized as
    correct.  I can carry out exactly the same scenario with Foggy and all
    works well.

    Near as I can tell I have all the communication parameters set
    identically: 2400baud, 8bits noparity 1 stop bit.  And it is good
    enough for the scholar to understand.

    This has to be something obvious and simple, but WHAT???

	Paul
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3162.1Try using a scriptDECWET::DAVISMark Davis - 206.865.8749Wed Nov 29 1989 04:106
    I had the same symptoms intermittently with VLT.  If I used a script
    to dial in it worked fine.  Try it with a script.  The sysman said they
    had a bad modem connected to the lat.  I have not tried to type in the
    LAT password lately since the script works quite well.
    
    mark
3162.2Could be the bellBELFST::MCCLINTOCKPeterWed Nov 29 1989 12:3310
    I had the problem with password on the LAT.  It turned out to be
    that the terminal server was transmitting a bell which was causing
    VLT to respond with some ARexx text thereby messing up the password.
    You don't see this 'cause it's not echoed.
         
    Setting Programme Mode On cures it temporarily but I think that
    deleting the configuration file distributed and starting again is
    the only real cure.
         
    Peter
3162.3NAC::BRANNONvalue addedWed Nov 29 1989 19:0610
    re .2:
    cute.  Yup, I've heard the beep when the # is displayed from the
    terminal server I use.
    
    What puzzles me is why would VLT be set up to send ARexx text if it
    got a bell character.  Seems like a rather dangerous default since bell
    characters are pretty common.
    
    dennis
    
3162.4WJG::GUINEAUQuantum RealityWed Nov 29 1989 20:1710
It tries to send to an arexx process called "ping" or something like that
which will "make a nice ping sounding bell".

It's a downright pain in the a** since every bell causes that "cant find
arexx port" requestor to pop up.

Anyone know how to kill  this beast? (besides buying Arexx :-)

John
3162.5not for meNOTIBM::MCGHIEThank Heaven for small Murphys !Wed Nov 29 1989 20:504
    I haven't seen the requestor come up on my system and I don't have
    arexx. Though I did start from scratch for the init file.
    
    Mike.
3162.6Scrap OVLT.INITBELFST::MCCLINTOCKPeterWed Nov 29 1989 21:192
    Like .5 I got rid of the requestor by deleting OVLT.INIT and starting
    again.
3162.7Worth a try...CIMNET::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatWed Nov 29 1989 21:369
I certainly didn't get any AREX requestor.  Why would it be sending
anything out the COMM port as a result of this anyhow?  I guess I will
experiment some more.  At least this gives me another idea to try.

What I really need is something else to call besides my system with the
LAT.  Then I could at least verify that things are otherwise working.

	Thanks for the ideas,
	Paul
3162.8Try deleting Arexx DirDECWET::DAVISMark Davis - 206.865.8749Wed Nov 29 1989 22:4213
    re:-2 or so>
    
    I got rid of that ARexx message by getting rid of the directory that
    had ARexx the scripts.  I do not get any kind of ARexx messages now.
    
    But...
    
    I am getting aborted quite often during transfers with "PORT busy
    use CTRL Q to reset".  It "just" started happening recently.  For large
    transfers I have to restart ZMODEM or use Handshake.  Any ideas.
    
    
    mark
3162.9Try this...CGOFS::CADAMSClint Adams - Calgary, CanadaWed Nov 29 1989 23:3815
    Now that we  have deleted almost everthing that comes with the VLT zoo
    except the executable.....;^)
    
    What I did and I've also heard on the usenet is to select the "Program
    Mode" to "ON" and pull down the "Beep Volume" from the Operation Menu.
    Delete all the characters in the requester and save the configuration. 
    
    The other thing to do is to delete VTPrefs.dat and save a new one with
    the Save Config making sure that the command for Beep volume is blanked
    out.
    
    Regards...   Clint
    
    
    
3162.10DICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Thu Nov 30 1989 12:464
Port Busy Use Ctrl Q   appears during my transfers too, but it has never
resulted in an aborted file transfer. I just ignore the message.

-Paul
3162.11Thanks! Seems to have solved the problem.CIMNET::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatFri Dec 01 1989 02:455
    I am finally in using VLT!  I also turned program mode on.  Somehow
    this seems backwards: isn't it when program mode is ON that AREX is
    used to run a program generating BEEPs?

	Paul
3162.12Won't even run off the fred fish disk.SHARE::DOYLEWed Dec 06 1989 13:238
	I can't seem to get this program to even run, I get a -
 "Error Initializing Screen "something or other"". 
	I looked for some type of installing documentation but could find none.
	
               Any idea's?
	                               Thanx
					    	Toby

3162.13ctrl chars in scripts? Macro default directory change?STAR::ROBINSONWed Dec 06 1989 16:5514
   Two questions about VLT:

   How do you get the CTRL/X and CTRT/R needed for a TSN line
   into a dialup script.

   Is there a clean way to change the default VLT macro directory from 
   REXX:.  Right now I do an ASSIGN REXX::  COMM:VLT from a CLI, before
   I click on the VLT icon. I am running floppies so I can't do
   a permanent assign in my startup sequence (hmm.. or can I. I just assumed
   I'd get an error if "COMM:VLT" couldn't be found...). I could do an 
   ICONX script, I guess, but would like the cleanest solution.
 
   Thanks in advance
   Dave
3162.14CLI standard escapesCIMNET::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatWed Dec 06 1989 22:0510
>   How do you get the CTRL/X and CTRT/R needed for a TSN line
>   into a dialup script.

Somewhere in the doc file is explains that escape sequences in strings have
been made compatible with the CLI.  Thus, you can put your special
characters in in hex.  ("*X..")  If the introducer character is changed
using ARP, then use whatever you changed it to.  (I think the default is *,
but I don't remember for sure since I change it to \.)

	Paul
3162.15got enough memory?GIDDAY::LAWSONThu Dec 07 1989 03:1711
    re .12
    
    If you are using the default screen (Interlace), Make sure that you
    have enough memory. 
    
    Also, VLTjr is very good at downloading via zmodem. Trouble is, I cant
    UPLOAD. This has only happened since I switched from 4.069 to 4.226.
    I am using v2.0 of xprzmodem. I went back to 4.069 and all was ok.
    Any suggestions out there?
    
    Glenn