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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:	AMIGA NOTES
Notice:	Join us in the NEW conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:	HYDRA::MOORE

Created:	Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:	Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5378
Total number of notes:	38326

3124.0. "Pascal for Amiga" by STKAI2::SMEDBERG () Mon Nov 20 1989 05:16

    I have this problem :
    
    For about 4 weeks ago i got a copy of PASCAL v1.9 (June 1985) created
    by Tenchstar Ltd, T/A Metacomco
    
    How do i compile my ASC II Files?
    I just write:
    
    0:>Pascal "My file name"
    
    And it starts to compile, but when it's ready no more happens?
    It only tells me "Precentage of workspace used by compiler is 30%
    of 25K"
    
    There is no compiled file on the disk and i tried to write like
    this: 0:>Pascal "My file name" "New file name" but it just says
    that i'm using Bad Arguments!!!!
    
    There is one more program on this disk to, it's called Alink, do
    i do anything with this program after the compilation..........
    
    M.V.H. JohSm/FSE @SOO

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
3124.1	RTFM ?	AYOV28::ATHOMSON	C'mon, git aff! /The Kelty Clippie	`Mon Nov 20 1989 06:58`	4
	I don't want to cast doubts on the legality of your S/W, but why can't you just read the manual ? Alan T>
3124.2	ILLEGAL OR NOT!!!!	STKAI2::SMEDBERG		`Mon Nov 20 1989 07:09`	7
	WELL IT'S A ILLEGAL COPY!!!!! BUT IF I FIND IT WORK PROPERLY AND MEET MY NEEDS I PROBOBLY BUY IT!!!!! BUT IT'S HARD TO FIND SOME ONE SELLING IT IN SWEDEN...... THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HELP!!!!!!
3124.3	"My file".o ?	STKHLM::BE_NYBERG		`Thu Nov 23 1989 10:39`	14
	Hej Johan! Surely the compiler spits out a file of some sort. "My file".o maybe? If so link it with ALink : > ALINK [[FROM\|ROOT]<filename>[,<filename>\|+<filename>]] [TO <name>][WITH <name>][LIBRARY\|LIB <name>] [MAP <map>][XREF <name>][WIDTH <n>] Mvh /LGJ
3124.4	Any good?	STKHLM::BE_NYBERG		`Thu Nov 23 1989 10:43`	3
	Is the PASCAL for the Amiga any good?? Is there only ONE PASCAL for the AMIGA??
3124.5	Good/only!	STKAI2::SMEDBERG		`Thu Nov 23 1989 13:25`	5
	I don't know if it's any good!!, can't test it out!!!!! That's the only one i'v seen or own!!! /JohSm
3124.6		NOTIBM::MCGHIE	Thank Heaven for small Murphys !	`Fri Nov 24 1989 02:50`	9
3124.7	MODULA-2	AIAG::WISNER	you may ask yourself 'How do I work this?'.	`Tue Dec 19 1989 21:36`	5
	There are a number of modula-2 products out there. I understand that modula-2 is a superset of Pascal. I'd am weary of METACOMBO. I bought there LISP for $200 and it was unusable, not returnable.
3124.8		NOTIBM::MCGHIE	Thank Heaven for small Murphys !	`Wed Dec 20 1989 22:15`	11
	There are at least two good Modula 2 compilers/development systems. I own the Benchmark Modula 2 compiler. I've seen references to another good compiler that has come out this year, which I think is call MSprint Modula 2. However, Modula-2 is not a superset of PASCAL it has similar syntax etc but it is quite different. Regards Mike
3124.9	Wither Metacomco Pascal?	BBQ::GERAGHTY	Simon, SPR CS IS	`Sat Jun 30 1990 12:02`	49
	Further to the Metacomco Pascal question... V1.9 is on sale here for AUS$20 (~US$15), so I thought "give it a go!". Result: It works, but I haven't tested it thoroughly. In the "Pascal Revision A" errata sheets which accompany the manual is a page saying the EXTERNAL functionality does not work, but "this will be fixed in the next release". I tried it, and this is true - no workies! So now I want to know: Did Metacomco ever release anything after V1.9 that fixed the EXTERNAL problem, because without it Pascal is pretty useless for other than mickey-mouse programs? Relevant notes in this conference are: 36,611,701,1002,1531,1566,3124. Public domain Pascal seems to be limited to PCQ on Fred Fish 339... Guess I'll go and check that out because it's supposed to support everything, including EXTERNAL, except sets. Does anyone know of any other commercial Pascal for the Amiga? I know Modula-II is supposed to be the go these days, but I've tried it and although I like the modular concept I just couldn't get past the awful I/O support. Drove me to C in the end! Couple of tips on the Metacomco Pascal compiler V1.9: - NewZap (Ah, binary file editors... aren't they wonderful?) shows the command line contains an undocumented option DOUBLE/S which, if implemented, may provide double precision floats. I haven't tried it. - The compiler assumes the error file "errors" is located in ":L/PASCAL/ERRORS", which is rather restrictive. I run the compiler from SYS:Pascal/Pascal and I have the errors file located in the same directory (SYS:Pascal/errors), so I patched sector 83 of 215 in Pascal from <\x10>:L/PASCAL/ERRORS<\x00><\x00><\x00> to <\x0D>PASCAL:ERRORS<\x00><\x00><\x00><\x00><\x00><\x00> and I include the following in my startup Assign Pascal: SYS:Pascal Alias PAScal Pascal:Pascal and it works a treat! Back to the EXTERNAL problem, has anyone got any workarounds for compiling Pascal modules separately then linking them, or for referencing routines in amiga.lib. Thanks for any help. Simon
3124.10		BBQ::GERAGHTY	Simon, SPR CS IS	`Sat Jun 30 1990 12:04`	6
	Re: .-1 Does Metacomco still exist? I think it's an English company. What's the latest address and phone? thanx.
3124.11	Metacomco/Tenchstar Pascal or public domain?	BBQ::GERAGHTY	Simon, SPR CS IS	`Sun Jul 01 1990 04:56`	35
	More info: Can anyone confirm these addresses and phone numbers? Metacomco PLC 26 Portland Sq Bristol BS2 8RZ England [44]-(272)-428781 Tenchstar Inc/Metacomco 5353 #E Scotts Valley Dr Calif 95066 (408)-4387201 And what's the difference between Commodore's "Amiga Pascal" and the above's "ISO Pascal"? I also saw a reference to "ISO Pascal 2.0" from Metacomco somewhere. Anyone seen it? I had a look at the PCQ Pascal compiler on FF339. Briefly: v1.1c Source (in Pascal, self compilable) included Heaps of short examples Comprehensive interface to Amiga routines Support for EXTERNAL and modular compilation Generates Asm68k assembler code Includes Asm68k and Blink v6.7 Also seems to have heaps of extensions to ISO Pascal (a la Turbo Pascal, etc) which make it pretty non-standard in someways. Patrick Quaid also says error handling leaves a lot to be desired. In summary, worth a look if you're not concerned about ISO compliance, need something free (well, shareware I think), and have the time to chase errors.