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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2983.0. "New MachII V2.6" by DICKNS::MACDONALD (WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25) Wed Oct 04 1989 12:37

Brian Moats MachII V2.6 is now available. Personally, I'll stick with
V2.5.  V2.6 has a difficult to deal with mouse accelerator threshold
that does not appear to be adjustable. Also, there is a dumb screen that
appears when the program is run. It takes about 15 seconds to go away.

I'll upload it tonight.

-Paul
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2983.1MachII V2.6 Now AvailableDICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Thu Oct 05 1989 14:442
MACHII26.LZH is now available in dickns::user:[macdonald.amiga.new]

2983.2MachII or Qmouse?DECWET::DAVISmidiot without an OctapadThu Oct 05 1989 22:034
    Anyone care to explain the differences between MachII and Qmouse.  Is
    one "better" than the other or best for certain applications?
    
    mark (?)
2983.3Suit yourselfFRAMBO::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Fri Oct 06 1989 08:1513
    Re: .2
    
    Mach has nice user interface and more functions than Qmouse. However
    Qmouse is much smaller and less (none found 'till today) bugridden
    than Mach.
    Try out both plus DMouse 1.20 and decide for yourself. If you can
    live with (IMHO) Machs braindead mouse acceleration scheme and don't
    run into a rising number of Gurus, it certainly offers the most
    bangs for the bucks... ;-) 
    
    This monthly MachII bashing was brought to you by:
    
    <CB>
2983.4MachII & QMouseDICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Fri Oct 06 1989 11:5722
>>    Try out both plus DMouse 1.20 and decide for yourself. If you can
>>    live with (IMHO) Machs braindead mouse acceleration scheme and don't
>>    run into a rising number of Gurus, it certainly offers the most
>>    bangs for the bucks... ;-) 
    

I haven't run into any Gurus with V2.5 of MachII. But you are right
about his mouse accelerator for V2.6 - ugh! I wonder why he did that?
QMouse has a similar accelerator scheme, but at least Lyman put in a
threshhold variable, which is apparently missing in Brian's
implementation.

Brian has also decided to make it impossible to run V2.6 from the
startup-sequence. The foolish animation at the start now requires a
mouse click to start the program. Most of the graphics are stuck in at
the end of the program. Newzapping the right areas might help alleviate
some of the pain!

QMouse is a good deal smaller than MachII, and is especially useful for
anyone with limited memory (like stock machines). It also lacks the
setup memory. Qualifiers must be added to a command line in your
startup-sequence (no big deal really).
2983.5Amigas are still the best, even though...MQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowFri Oct 06 1989 14:2712
    In another note, I reported that WordPerfect would bring the GURU
    when exiting the program with MachII running (only since adding
    a fat agnus), well I tried Qmouse, and IT does the same too!
    
    The GURU combination is: WP + fat lady + mouse accelerator program
    
    This works: WP + fat lady
    
    Oh well, sometimes multitasking CAN be bothersome.
    
    Jean
    
2983.6LODGE::LENDavid M. LenSun Oct 08 1989 17:536
    re .5
    
    	Are you using the auto-activate window feature of QMouse?  I had to
    disable that feature because it created problems in WordPerfect.  I was
    wondering if it the problem is running QMouse, or maybe just one
    particular feature that causes the Guru.
2983.7TALLIS::MCAFEESteve McAfeeSun Oct 08 1989 23:4620
    I don't have any problems between WP and QMOUSE.  My qmouse.cfg
    follows:
    
    -A3                       ; acceleration factor
    -B                        ; enable window to back
    -CM495                    ; enable clock/memory at column 495
    -K2                       ; 2 clicks for window to front
    -T3                       ; acceleration threshold of 3
    -P3
    -V10000                   ; stacksize for spawned CLI's
    "-ENewWSH"                ; <Left Amiga><Esc> for NewCLI
    "-H12=Run c:ed"           ; <Left Amiga><E> for editor
    
    My WP help screen shows V4.1.9 dated 8/10/88.  Recent USENET postings
    say there is an update to WP available.  These are usually free if you
    just give them a call with your registration number.
    
    regards,
    
    steve
2983.8DICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Mon Oct 09 1989 12:058
RE: .6

The "sun mouse" feature can causes problems with some programs that
requires multiple windows (like Professional Page). So I leave it off.
Doesn't really matter what program has the "sun mouse" feature.

-Paul