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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2968.0. "50 New Ham Pics available" by CGOU01::DREW (Steve Drew) Fri Sep 29 1989 14:55

        Ever  seen  those  digitized  sports  illustrated  swim  suit
        pictures on a color work  station...    wow!!!    
        
        Any way I wrote a program  to  convert  X-IFF (.RGB files) to
        AMIGA overscan HAM IFF format. The results are pretty darn good.
        
        I  converted  3 years worth of SI  pictures  and  some  other
        miscellaneous execellent pictures from X-IFF to HAM. 
        
        You  can  copy  them  from CGOU01::AMIGA:[PICS.HAM], there is
        also a zoo containing superview 2.0 in  this directory.  This
        is the ONLY viewer that  I have found to properly display ALL
        these  overscanned  ham  pics.   NOTE:    other  versions  of
        superview  including newer versions 2.1 etc..   do  not  work
        properly with overscanned ham pics. 
        
        SHOWIZ  2.0,  is  the next best choice although,  it  trashes
        about  4-5  of  the pictures, I've tried many other  viewers.
        Superview  2.0  is  bar  FAR  the fastest picture viewer I've
        seen.

        If  you'd  like  to  see a good example of these pictures try
        BEST.ZOO first.
        
        The complete set of files:
        
Directory AMIGA:[PICS.HAM]

BEST.ZOO;1             1415  28-SEP-1989 10:15:09.42
MISC_A.ZOO;1            792  28-SEP-1989 10:18:25.59
MISC_B.ZOO;1            930  28-SEP-1989 10:20:24.66
SI86_A.ZOO;1            916  28-SEP-1989 10:22:45.79
SI86_B.ZOO;1            840  28-SEP-1989 10:25:02.33
SI87_A.ZOO;1            838  28-SEP-1989 10:26:58.67
SI87_B.ZOO;1            800  28-SEP-1989 10:28:54.91
SI89_A.ZOO;1            818  28-SEP-1989 10:30:46.81
SI89_B.ZOO;1            929  28-SEP-1989 10:32:50.68
SUPERVIEW.ZOO;1          23  29-SEP-1989 09:05:41.13

Total of 10 files, 8301 blocks.
                        
        Well, enjoy...

        Steve.
        
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2968.1SuperView V3.0DICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Fri Sep 29 1989 15:465
>>        Superview  2.0  is  bar  FAR  the fastest picture viewer I've
>>        seen.

SuperView V3.0 is now available.

2968.2WJG::GUINEAUImpossible ConcentrationFri Sep 29 1989 16:315
Steve, you mentioned pics for color workstations?!?

Do you have these somewhere?

John
2968.3MILKWY::JANZENcf. ANT::CIRCUITS,ANT::UWAVESFri Sep 29 1989 18:164
    This brings up some interesting issues about sexual harrassment at work
    as well as copyright violation.  It's just like copying protected
    software, I believe.
    Tom
2968.4LEDS::ACCIARDIFri Sep 29 1989 19:2721
    
    You are technically kind of correct, Tom.  Copywritten material, be it
    software, poetry, or naughty pictures, may not be reproduced without
    the permission of the copyright holder.
    
    In spite of this, commercial networks such as PLINK routinely provide
    digitized images and sounds that are taken from sources that are
    undoubtedly copywritten, such as PlayBoy centerfolds etc.
    
    PLINK's position is that you should not reproduce such material for
    profit, which is a bit hypocritical since they profit from download and
    connect charges.  They have never been harassed or restrained by any
    copyright holders, except for cases of accidental posting of commercial
    software.  No one has ever compalined about digitized photos or sounds. 
    This doesn't make it legal; it's just that a measly few thousand PC
    owners probably don't make litigation worthwhile.  I doubt that they
    even know or care about it.
    
    Any legal minds know the exact laws in this matter?
    
    Ed.
2968.5Don't put DEC at risk!SPIDER::LONGSat Sep 30 1989 00:2019
Re: .4

>    This doesn't make it legal; it's just that a measly few thousand PC
>    owners probably don't make litigation worthwhile.  I doubt that they
>    even know or care about it.

Watch them care about it when it's a deep pockets company like DEC!!!  

The same goes for the naughty pictures and the sexual harrasment issue.  A
good lawsuit threat is going to win somebody a good sized settlement to
keep that kind of thing out of the papers ( if you thought the response to
the last few WSJ articles was bad ... ).

I would play it safe if there is any question.  I don't put DEC at risk, and
they continue to provide me with a paycheck and a place to live during the 
day ;^}.

	Dick
2968.6... is this a tad paranoid?LEDS::ACCIARDISat Sep 30 1989 03:2323
     
   .5> The same goes for the naughty pictures and the sexual harrasment
   .5> issue. 
    
    This confuses me... who is being sexually harassed by images of females
    (or males, or aardvarks) clothed in swimsuits?  Not even Jimmy Swaggart
    is calling for Sports Illustrated to be banned.
    
    Consider this example... a gay employee brings a photo to work of
    his/herself holding hands or kissing their lover.  Would some straight
    employees find this offensive?  Possibly.  Is it harassment? 
    Absolutely not.  No more than a photo of a straight employee kissing
    his/her spouse would be harassment of a gay employee.
    
    I don't have a policy manual nearby, but I believe sexual harassment
    implies forcing lewd suggestions, comments or actions on another
    employee.
    
    Let's not create an issue where none exists.  If there's a copyright
    problem, fine, don't make the images available.
    
    Ed.
    
2968.7wake up and smell the rosesCGOFS::DREWSteve DrewSat Sep 30 1989 04:1614
        Lets not  get to crazy over this.  These pictures just happen
        to be a good example of Amiga hi-res overscanned HAM images.
        For  those  that are offended by swim suit pictures  try  the
        MISC_A, and MISC_B zoo files.
        
        As for copyrights, these files have  been  available  on  the
        enet  for sometime in DDIF and RGB  format,  all  I  did  was
        convert them to the Amiga.  I wanted  to see how high quality
        scanned images would look converted to Ham.
        
        I agree with Ed, lets not get too paranoid.
        
        /Steve
2968.8Just enjoy them for what they're worthLOWLIF::DAVISThat's not a BUG it's a FEATURE!Sat Sep 30 1989 05:485
re:  last few

Personally, I think they look real good.  Good job, Steve.

...richard
2968.9very niceSMAUG::SPODARYKBinary ThrottleSat Sep 30 1989 18:274
    The images do look sharp.  Some of the highest quality I've seen
    (from a technological viewpoint :^).  Great work on the converter.
    
    ~Steve
2968.10LEDS::ACCIARDISun Oct 01 1989 03:424
    
    Excellent images.  Anyone know what was originally used to scan them?
    
    Ed.
2968.11Nice, but...NOTIBM::MCGHIEThank Heaven for small Murphys !Sun Oct 01 1989 11:2221
    Hi Guys,
    
    yes great stuff, please spread MORE of this wonderful artistic imagery
    around !!!! (we don't get these adverts down here ;-} I didn't know
    what I was missing out on...)
    
    One small point though, the images on my A500 seem rather distorted.
    The aspect ratio is out. Height seems to be compressed. This is not a
    total disaster (heh-heh) but to fully appreciate this I would like to
    see the images without the distortion.
    
    I suspect the problem lies with my location and thus the system. I have
    a PAL Amiga. This time all that extra resolution is a pain.
    
    Is there an easy solution to my problem ? (other than moving to North
    America !!)
    
    Regards
    	Mike
    
    P.S. keep them artistic images coming...!
2968.12don't use superview 3.0CGOU01::DREWSteve DrewMon Oct 02 1989 02:038
    Superview 3.0, doesnt work with many of this pictures. It does'nt
    seem to like the ones that are less that half the screen in height.
    
    So stick with Superview 2.0 for these guys...
    
    /Steve.
    
2968.13conversion to PS?SMAUG::SPODARYKBinary ThrottleMon Oct 02 1989 18:3814
    I didn't know whether to reply here or note 2961 (IFF to Postscript).
    
    I know CLAZ is not very robust in terms of what it can handle, but I've
    had fairly good luck with it. (Until I tried it with these HAM's)
    Has anyone else tried converting these.  Even the smaller (ie. not
    overscanned) pictures cause CLAZ to crash.
    
    I have IffToPS.c, but that is some _seriously_ ugly code, and I don't
    want to spend the time to get it running on VMS.  And even then, it
    might not work, since it's based on CLAZ.
    
    Any ideas?
    
    Steve - When will the 1988 calendar be available? :^) 1990 :^)