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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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2927.0. "BBC EMulation" by MINDER::ADRIAN () Mon Sep 18 1989 13:07

I'm currently pondering over whether to buy an AMIGA or a BBC. There may
seem to be no contest in most peoples eyes but the main reason I'm buying a
computer is to use it to run Educational Software. There is a wealth of this 
type of software available for the BBC in the U.K. but not a great amount for 
the AMIGA, hence my dilemma. One solution would be to buy an AMIGA and a
package which I beleive is available (though I'm not sure if it consists of
hardware or software or a bit of both) which allows the AMIGA to run BBC
software. My questions are :-

.... Does this BBC emulation package work with all BBC programs ?

.... How much does it cost ?

.... If the BBC software I get hold of is on a floppy disk of
     different size/density/format to that expected by the AMIGA,
     is there some way to get round the problem ?

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2927.1BBC Emulator reviewedODIHAM::EASTMon Sep 18 1989 13:5010
    Adrian,
    	AMIGA COMPUTING and/or ST/AMIGA FORMAT, have reviewed the BEEB
    emulator within the last few months. (I will look up the details
    for  you). They should answer most of your questions. I seem to
    recall that like most emulators it does a creditable job, but does
    not really do justice to either machine. 
    
    				Regards
    					David
    
2927.2BeebulatorAYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieMon Sep 18 1989 14:3329
2927.3BEEBULATOR REVIEWEDLASHAM::EASTTue Sep 19 1989 11:0788
    RE - 0
    
    Amiga Computing reviewed the BEEBULATOR in January 1989.
    " The job the Beebulator was designed for was to allow schools to
    run their existing programs - often home grown - on the Amiga.....
    Commodore assumes that anyone who wants to use the Beebulator will
    also have a BBC Micro, so the approved way to get  programs from
    a BBC to an Amiga is through a 3 wire cable from Amiga's RS232 to
    BBC's RS423. ....... But the Beebulator is at its best when you
    realise its an Amiga program. It will multitask but you will need
    a 1Mb machine to get more than one emulator running.... any ex BBC
    owner who gets to grips with the Beebulator will love the system.
    It is great to see programs whizzing along on an Amiga, typically
    2 to 4 but possibly 7 times faster than on the machine it was intended
    for."
    
    Summary  RRP #49.99  Schools #39.99 (Pounds Sterling)
    
    Usefulness  12/15  - Provides a good powerful Basic and a way to run
    a large base of existing educational software.
                                           
    Ease of Use  14/15 - Click the Icon and you have a BBC Micro. you
    will need a book on the Acorn if you dont already have one.
    
    Intuition     10/15 - the BBC operating System obviousely doesn't
    obey Commodore guidlines but the emulator will multitask properly.
    
    Speed  14/15  - Up to 7 times faster than a BBC which was one of the
    fastest 8 bit micros. Rapid text print.
    
    Value  13/15  - A well written and interesting program which does
    a good job of emulating a BBC Micro.
    
    Overall  84% - Wont run any games or programs which break Acorn
    rules. Slow at machine code but magfnificent for running educational
    software."
    
    	WITH ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS TO AMIGA COMPUTING.
    
    
    
    ST/AMIGA FORMAT reviewed the Beebulator in March 1989
    
    "Any program written in BBC BASIC should run perfectly .....Being
    aimed specifically at the Education market the Beebulator will not
    run coded games such as ELITE and Superior Software's Recepton series.
    
    ...the emulator  uses a layered software approach. at the lowest
    level is the Amiga operating system, on top of which is a 6052 
    micro-processor emulator.....the BBC BASIC emulator is loaded on
    top of this.
    
    ...the version of BBC BASIC included is a complete implementation
    of BBC's infamous BASIC. the only omission is the lack of support
    for sound generation ENVELOPE commands.  99% of the *FX and *VDU
    commands that make the operating system calls are catered for.
    
    .... the first thing that strikes you about the BASIC is its blinding
    speed.......
    
    
    If you wish to run BBC software and have no intention of moving
    over to the Amiga  completely , you are best advised to stick to
    your BBC.....What the emulator does provide is a  way of easing
    the pain of upgrade......
    
    the Beebulator was tested using the most poular educational programs
    used in schools. ....clever machine code programs and games like
    Elite will not run .....Below  is a list  of some of the programs
    which will work fine:
    	
    	SchoolSoft's range of software
    	SnakeWorks
    	The Longman series  of programs such as;
    		Tray, Cars, Maths in Motion, MicroDiet, Explorer ,
    	Other Worlds, The Visitor.
    
    Summary     (max = 5)
    		Features: 	3.5
    		Performance	4.5
                Ease of Use	4.5
    		Manuals		3.5
    		Value		4.0
    
    ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS TO ST/AMIGA FORMAT.
    
    
    
2927.4Thanks...but one last thingMINDER::ADRIANWed Sep 27 1989 12:568
    Thanks a lot for all the reponses to my original note, they were
    exactly what I was looking for. Incidently, does anyone have any
    addresses etc of the people who produce the educational software
    mentioned in 2927.3 ( Schoolsoft, Longman Series ) ?
    
    
    Regards, Adrian.