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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2769.0. "Needs help for Cambridge Lisp" by KETJE::VLASIU () Thu Jul 27 1989 14:55

	Hello!

	I have the Metacomco Cambridge Lisp which I never succeeded
to make it to use more than 530KB on my 1MB A500. I have used their
options starting Lisp but no matter it wants not to exceed 530KB.
 Does anyone know something about ? Is there a way to extend the
subroutine call possibility for a large number of parameters ?
 It's not bad as language having mainframe flavors but completely
lacks Amiga features...

Thanks,
Sorin
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2769.1Cambridge Lisp complaintAIAG::WISNERyou may ask yourself 'How do I work this?'.Mon Aug 14 1989 21:2127
I bought this lisp in 1986 when it was called Amiga Lisp.  I found it
to be unusable.  I couldn't get it to load in a file.  Also, it's not Common
Lisp.  I was willing to learn "Cambridge Standard Lisp" but I could not find
a reference on it.  It may be a dead language.  

I truly hope that this product has been improved.  I'd love to have an almost
decent lisp for the Amiga.  

Let us know how you like it.  If you ever need help complaining to Metacomco, 
I'll help you.

You and I may be the only people in this conference to have tried this Lisp.
If not, let's hear from some other people!

I have used Amiga XLISP 1.7 many times.  It's a subset of common Lisp and 
I had a lot of success with it.  I wrote a few games and did some of my
discrete math class assignments with it.  It worked great.  Dave Tenny, of 
the VAX LISP group tried to do something more complicated and said XLISP 
couldn't handle it.  

Now XLISP v2.0 is out.  I think it has a system access function, I'm don't
know the list of improvements.  It's available on this network.

Best wishes.

	Paul Wisner
	AI Tools developer, VAX LISP user
2769.2It only gets worse...TEACH::ARTThink the UNTHINKABLETue Aug 15 1989 19:547
	Sad to say, there was a review of the second release of the
	infamous Cambridge Lisp, and it seemed to indicate that a
	number of new bugs were introduced.  I wouldn't hold my
	breath waiting for Metacomco to improve it...

	'(ART)
2769.3My Cambridge Lisp storyKETJE::VLASIUFri Aug 18 1989 13:5225
	Hello,

First, thanks for the answers, second here is my Cambridge Lisp story:
I bought it last year's summer (my brain too hot maybe) because of a good
price (the USA price as here prices are the double) and some real interest.
Globally I like its features as I'm not experienced with Lisp.
Compiler and Lisp control seem fine and mainframe origin is evident.
I have used their recommended system interface and via a little written "shell"
function I can execute MEmacs to edit the Lisp programs and then go back to
Lisp control.
But system interface works aparently only with a limited number of parameters
(I think 3 A and 3 D 68000 registers).
Also if I need a big space for Lisp it takes only 540K (not 530K as I've said
before) and this I don't like at all. I've called Metacomco (in GB) for it but
they told that it is no more developed...and no answer for the 540k limitation.
I asked also for some graphics and/or Amiga interface and the answer was that
it exists maybe for ... XLISP !
The documentation is good for reference but not to learn and it's limited.
There are many functions but little explaining.
Finally I have the sensation that it's a "should have been a good one" Lisp
and I'm still using it just to play some Lisp.
Maybe in the future I'll switch to some Forth system with a good Amiga
connection.

Best regards, Sorin