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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2488.0. "floppy drive problem" by CIM1NI::POWERS (I Dream Of Wires - G. Numan) Wed Apr 19 1989 17:46

     The floppy drive (D.S. 3.5") on my atari 1040st is having problems
  reading and writing.  When I format a floppy, the machine makes the
  drive often retry the higher numbered tracks 73+, and sometimes it fails
  altogether.  Sometimes when I go to copy a file from a floppy (which
  was created on another drive) to my harddisk, it only copies part of the
  file.

     My question is, what might be wrong with the drive, could the heads
  be out of alignment?  If so, how does one re-align the heads on a floppy
  drive?  Could this be a problem with the heads on the drive being dirty?
  Could this be a problem that the drive is mechanically wearing out, and
  the only solution is to replace the drive?

  thanks for any info

  Bill Powers
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2488.1Possible curesLEVERS::PLOUFFWait a NanojiffyWed Apr 19 1989 18:5413
    If dirty, the heads can be cleaned with one of the kits (under $10)
    available in many places.  Cleaning kits for 3.5" drives are not
    specific to any brand of computer.  The only problem you may have
    is making the motor spin long enough for the cleaner to be effective.
    
    If you suspect that your drive is out of alignment, look in the
    back of magazines for repair places -- some specialize in disk repair
    for much less than the cost of a replacement drive.
    
    You should also ask in the MAY14::ATARIST notesfile.  This may be
    an Atari-specific problem.
    
    Wes Plouff
2488.2CIM1NI::POWERSI Dream Of Wires - G. NumanWed Apr 19 1989 19:1026
  RE: < Note 2488.1 by LEVERS::PLOUFF "Wait a Nanojiffy" >

>    If dirty, the heads can be cleaned with one of the kits (under $10)
>    available in many places.  Cleaning kits for 3.5" drives are not
>    specific to any brand of computer.  The only problem you may have
>    is making the motor spin long enough for the cleaner to be effective.
>    
>    If you suspect that your drive is out of alignment, look in the
>    back of magazines for repair places -- some specialize in disk repair
>    for much less than the cost of a replacement drive.
    
>    You should also ask in the MAY14::ATARIST notesfile.  This may be
>    an Atari-specific problem.

     I did ask in the atari notes file, but drive problems, wouldn't be
     computer specific, I thought I'd ask here too.  Besides, there are
     much more amiga noters, than st noters, so the chance that someone
     knows about aligning drive's, etc is much greater here.

    
>    Wes Plouff

     Bill Powers


2488.3LEVERS::PLOUFFWait a NanojiffyWed Apr 19 1989 20:548
    Sorry, didn't mean to come across as flippant, or to chase you away.
    I think that disk drive alignment is generally beyond the ability
    of most hobbyists.  In fact, I'd love to hear from someone who has
    successfully realigned a floppy drive at home.
    
    Thus the recommendation to take the drive to a repair shop.
    
    Wes
2488.4My 3 1/2 centsSMAUG::SPODARYKScaring the pedestrians...Wed Apr 19 1989 20:5522
    It does sound like an alignment problem.  When I used my C64
    (Boy, I love my Amiga), occasionally my 1541 would go out of
    alignment.  Re-aligning it was fairly simple and involved
    locating the adjusting the stepper motor, until the drive
    would properly do a directory on a junk disk.
    
    I found an article in RUN many years ago that describes the
    process and it saved me quite a bit of money ($30+/alignment).
    I must admit that even after 6+ years of (ab)use, my little
    system performs like a champ.  One friend of mine currently
    runs his 1541 sans case, and upside down (to get at the stepper 
    screws) because his drive mis-aligns constantly.
    
    I would think that a similar article/book exists for 3 1/2" 
    drives.  The technique is probably similar, but I haven't
    taken my drives apart yet.  Oh yeah, I would occasionally
    clean the drive head with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol.  
    This may/not do much, but never seemed to do any harm.
    (I won't even hazard a guess how many *hours* my 1541 has spun.
    :^)
    
    Steve - Siena '88
2488.5SMAUG::SPODARYKScaring the pedestrians...Wed Apr 19 1989 21:0815
    re: .3
    
    Wes,  I was replying to .2, but the order seems more appropriate.
    
    The 3 1/2 drives operate at much greater speed/precision
    than my 1541, so aligning them would be more difficult. 
    Typically, if I could do a directory (track 18) then I was
    safe reading 0-39 also. (I think those numbers are correct).   

    If the problem only occurs reading the fringe tracks this may be 
    harder to fix, without proper equipment/training.
    
    I'd still recommend doing a little research before taking it in.
    
    Steve
2488.6MQOFS::DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowThu Apr 20 1989 16:588
    If the drive will format ok and read/write to itself ok but will
    not read back from a second drive, then you can suspect alignment.
    If it will not format and R/W to itself, then something else is
    wrong (dirty heads, faulty stepper, something electronic) and unless
    you are a good fixer, take it in.
    
    Jean