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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:	AMIGA NOTES
Notice:	Join us in the NEW conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:	HYDRA::MOORE

Created:	Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:	Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5378
Total number of notes:	38326

2464.0. "Lords of the Rising Sun" by TOXMAN::PETERS (Be Nice or be Dog Foood) Mon Apr 10 1989 19:50

    I just got my copy of "Lords of the Rising Son". This program is
    about two brothers who wish to rule Japan but to do this you have
    to defeat the current royal familly and kill your brother. Along 
    the way it is helpful to recover the 5 regal item including the 
    every present princess to rescue.
        You may start as either brother one brother has to do his own
    arcade style fighting they include storming the castle, defending the 
    castle, commanding you troops in battle and riding down and kill the 
    opposing general. If you are the other brother you have the option to 
    fight the battle or to let the machine do it.
       The graphic are great as only Cinemaware can do. The screen change
    is slow but the arcade graphic are quick and detailed. The game
    reminds me alot of "Defender of the Crown" only exspanded with arcade 
    graphic. I couldn't stop and the arcade or not arcade option
    on battles makes this game a good game reguardless of whether you
    want arcade game or stratigic game and best if you want a combination
    of both.
                                  Jeff Peters

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2464.1	Fingers crossed	NZOV01::MCKENZIE	Support your right to arm bears	`Wed Apr 12 1989 04:53`	12
	Hi... Do you know if a PAL compatible version is available...Ive been looking forward to buying this game for some time now .... ever since I saw it in a brochure kindly forwarded to me by another noter... I am at the bottom of the world so I am unable to phone (well I could - would cost me a fortune though) and I have not recieved any replies to the various letters I have written to Cinemaware... sigh...last thing I want is to pay NZ prices on it in a few months time...
2464.2	demo	GUCCI::HERB		`Wed Apr 12 1989 20:54`	6
	On the demo version is it possible to play more than just the screen where ninjas are throwing stars at you? matt
2464.3	Game...set...& MATCH!	NZOV01::MCKENZIE	Diehard the hunter	`Sun Jun 18 1989 20:20`	24
	Well - I finally conceded and purchased the game a couple of days ago - I became Shogun at around 11:00pm last night... As usual, Cinamaware's graphics were great, but once again, another Cinamaware game full of silly text screens between most activity. I spent most of the time "Touching my sword hilt" (pressing one of the mouse buttons) to continue. Because of this and the silly loading systems they use (the documentation says the more memory your system has the SLOWER IT PERFORMS...at least it has a game save/restore feature and can be installed on a hard disk) I dont think I'll purchase any more Cinamaware Games... I participated in all encounters except the Ninja attacks - for some reason, I'd get messages saying "Ninja Attacking" and when I went immeadiatly to my main player (lord) - there was ZIP! Not once in the entire game did I get to combat these Ninja...spent a large amount of time defending my castles and crushing the enemy armies after they refused to form alliances with me... I'll post a couple of hints here if anyone is interested? Cheers Phil
2464.4	How do you beat the ninjas?	NZOV01::MCKENZIE	Diehard the hunter	`Wed Jun 21 1989 02:16`	9
	Hey Jeff - Just being playing LOTRS as Yoritomo and for the first time was attacked by Ninja's - could you supply spoilers on how to beat them please...I had captured all of Honshu and most of Kyushu when I was attacked and killed - have to start again cos the kit wipes the saved game when you get killed.... Thanks in advance Phil
2464.5	Seiging castles?	NZOV01::MCKENZIE	Diehard the hunter	`Thu Jul 06 1989 02:59`	43
	Jeff...Thanks for the info you mailed me... re: My ninja question/problem I won the game playing Yoshitsune's character but have yet to win playing as Yoritomo. Yoshitsune's character is a purely strategic character and it is possible to avoid the ninjas by simply hoping they wont turn up. If they do attack a message "Ninja Atacking" appears at the bottom of the screen. If you ignore this message you either get the message "Ninja failed" appear or you get killed. Playing as Yoritomo you must participate in evey arcade sequence that Yoritomo comes across...these include NINJA ATTACKS plus... Castles beseiged/Enemy encounters etc This however does NOT apply to the rest of Yoritomo's generals unless you specifically request it. EG: if a general arrives at a castle and you click onto that general and force hime to siege the castle, then you must go through the arcade sequence. If however you leave him alone, he may/will make the decision [to seige the castle] on his own. Now for the next question. Is there a particular strategy for seiging castles? I have never managed to sucessfully seige a castle via the arcade sequence...I always run out of time...since one castle contains the princess I will have to master this strategy to obtain maximum ranking... Any and/or help appreciated... Minor spoiler/warning follows for anyone who plays this game If you are killed during the game and you have previously saved your game state, your saved game will be wiped from disk 2 of the game - provided that it is not write protected. If however you write protect the disk and you are killed, the saved game is NOT wiped - but the program seems to set some internal value which will not allow you to restore the saved game - even on warm boot. To get around this you have to cold-boot which once complete will allow you to restore your previously saved game and continue your quest.
2464.6	Beat the Ninjas!	NZOV01::MCKENZIE	The setting sun casts the longest shadow	`Sun Jul 09 1989 21:47`	36
	For anyone interested... Mild Spoilers on beating ninjas follow... The Ninja attack in certain patterns...learn the pattern and have the sword blade ready in the area of attack...generally they throw stars to the left and right - then straight down the middle...the middle case is the worst case...I have been killed by a single star striking me square in the middle of the chest. The number of stars thrown is minimal...1/2 doz at most...then a samurai appears at the far end of the corridor and shoots the ninja with an arrow...sometimes the ninja is killed by the arrow...in which case you are safe...but you cant find out who hired the assassin... In one case however the Ninja was wounded...the text that followed said that under interrogation he blurted out the name of his employer...when the game resumes the message "[Employer] Committed Seppuku" appears at the bottom of the screen. Whether the ninja is killed or not is entirely up to the program. There are no buttons to press on the mouse...even though the instructions suggest that this may be the case...simply moving the mouse moves the sword. The speed of the stars seems constant...ie: it has nothing to do with how strong your current army is or anything...I sucessfully defended myself against 3 ninja attacks in a single game... I have now beaten the game playing both Yoritomo's and Yoshitsune's character... Phil
2464.7		NZOV01::MCKENZIE	Stop Pollution: Leave a legacy	`Thu Jan 04 1990 06:32`	17
	forgot to add this awhile back I finally beat the game playing as Yoritomo...long hard fight ! * SPOILER * I rescued the princess but it took me 3 attempts - it is possible to kill or wound the princess - either with a misdirected sword/arrow or by waiting around too long (The enemy samurai start attacking her) once you have her you must kill the captain of the guard (the one with the little yellow helmet) then high tail it out of there...the princess will follow you once the captain of the guard is dead...
2464.8		NZOV01::MCKENZIE	Stop Pollution: Leave a legacy	`Thu Jan 04 1990 06:33`	4
	oh - almost forgot * Spoiler * the end sequence isnt NEARLY as good as Rocket Ranger ;^)