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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2188.0. "Kermit help!" by STKEIS::LJONSSON () Thu Feb 02 1989 11:33

  Hi!

  I use kermit on my amiga to log into a machine at work. How would I
go about copying files between the two through the modem ? I have tried
all kinds of variations of 'send' and 'receive' but not very much seems
to happen.

  /Lars
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2188.1Real quick explination...WJG::GUINEAUThu Feb 02 1989 15:4714
With KERMIT, one end needs to be a "server". Try this:

Run kermit on Amiga.
Log into VAX.
Run kermit on VAX.
on VAX side, type KERMIT_32> SERVER
then to get back to your local kermit, type ^]C (that's control-right_bracket,
	then "C")
now from local kermit SEND file will send to vax,GET file will recieve from vax.

typing BYE will log off vax, FINISH will disconnect server. Then CONNECT
will get you back to the VAX side.

John
2188.2Thanks but ...STKEIS::LJONSSONThu Feb 02 1989 18:057
  I tried that but it did not work so well. I put the remote kermit in server
mode and tried to send a normal text file (9 bytes). What happened was that
he printed 'ISN%N%N%N%NN%N%N%N%N%N%N%N%N%N%N%N%N%' on the screen and then
'Timed out'. There was a pause between every character displayed on the
screen. Same thing happened with receive.

/Lars
2188.3WJG::GUINEAUFri Feb 03 1989 10:398
Are you going through a LAT or something?

I think KERMIT gets wierd if the line is (or isnt?) eightbit. Or maybe the
path is not all the same.

Maybe something is not set to passall and it strips off some of kermit's
control characters and messes things up?
John
2188.4Check other notes and slow downCAM::ARENDTHarry Arendt CAM::Fri Feb 03 1989 12:1115
    
    
    Lars,
    
      Start by doing a DIR/TITLE=KERMIT *.* and grab all the previous
    notes on file transfer using kermit, xmodem, and zmodem.  These
    may contain the answer you require and some information that will
    interest you about file transfers.  One of those notes in particular
    details the trouble I had with kermit and xmodem, in the end (after
    6 months of on and off problems) it turned out to be a speed problem.
    When I slowed my modem from 2400 to 1200 all my problems went away.
    
    Regards and good luck,
    
       Harry
2188.5LATs a problem?MEIS::ZIMMERMANNinja turtles fight with honor!Sun Feb 05 1989 15:038
re .3

For the record, I dial into a LAT and have had no problems.  I've got
a Scholar but have never been able to get a clean connection at 2400.
At 1200, though, my line is almost garbage free, and Kermit works
fine. 

- Cliff
2188.6I can copy files but...STKEIS::LJONSSONMon Feb 06 1989 07:2015
      This is what happens :
    
      I get connected to a DECserver. After I log in I set my session
    to passall and pasthru (on the DECserver), I set my terminal to
    eight bits (set term/eightbit). Then I startup kermit. First I set
    the file type to binary and then start up the server mode. On my
    amiga I run a Basic program I found on the net (VT100.BAS) and select
    the option 'Kermit receive'.
    
      I've managed to copy files, but I can't unarc them! If I'm lucky
    I can unarc every tenth file in the archive. Any more suggestions??

    
    /Lars
2188.7JOVIAL::MARILee MariMon Feb 06 1989 08:5234
    You seem to be having some of the same problems that I had long
    ago...  Step 2 may be your problem.
    
    I was having problems copying files from VAX to AMIGA for a long
    time. (See note 479, 1085.2).  However, I've finally settled in on a few
    things that give me consistently good transfers.
    
	1) If you are using a VT100 or VT200 emulator 
    	   check the COMM SETUP - XFER MODE in the pulldown menu,
    	   it should be set to IMAGE    
    
    	2) check the file you want to transfer on the VAX before
           you spend a lot of time. A significant number of .ARC
           files are bogus or are not in proper formats.
    		- use VMSSWEEP to list the .ARC
		- if VMSSWEEP fails then use
    			$ CVTARC V xyz.ARC XYZ.ARC
    		- use VMSSWEEP to list the new .ARC 
        	- if it still fails then don't bother transferring
    
    	3) RUN KERMIT
    	   SET FILE TYPE BINARY
    	   SERVER
    
    	4) use the KERMIT GET function from your AMIGA
    
    If you still are having problems, I found that using PREFERENCES
    to set the number of STOP BITS to 2 (two), even though my modem
    is set to 1 (one), significantly improves the quality of data
    transferred.
    
    
    
    
2188.8< Thank you >STKEIS::LJONSSONWed Feb 15 1989 05:3710
    Thanks for all your help! I finally managed to get my first file
    over successfully.
    
    I changed VT100.BAS so that it could copy more than 32767 characters
    then I transfered VT200.ARC. The archive was partly corrupt, but
    I managed to extract 'VT200' then I copied other fonts to the fonts
    that VT200 needed to start up. Tomorrow I am going to copy over
    the original VT200 fonts using VT200.
    
    Lars