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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2052.0. "Universal Military SImulator" by SANFAN::BARRETODE () Wed Dec 28 1988 16:21

    Has anyone had any luck with Universal Military Simulator?
    
    It has a facinating what-if premise (sort of a spreadsheet for battle
    simulations), but I'll be darned if I can get it to work.
    
    The pre-programmed simulations run OK of course, but I'm having
    little to no luck creating new scenarios.  The documentation was
    written for Atari ST's but even with minor variations in screens
    it seems things should work better than this!
    
    Anyone else having a problem or is it just me?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Terry
    
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2052.1Building simulationsTHRILL::NELSONFri Jan 27 1989 11:0119
	I have been using UMS for about a month & 1/2 & have had no
problems creating & hack with scenarios.

	Assuming that your UMS2 disk is OK, it should just be a
matter of creating a couple of armies, a map and sim-building the
mess together.

	While there are features I feel that are missing, the software
seems to work as (or better than) described, ie. it's easier to "hack"
a simulation than claimed.

	If you need more help call me at DTN 282-1623.

	I haven't looked at this notes file in a while.  Sorry for the
late reply.

						Mike Nelson

2052.2It's driving me crazy!!SANFAN::BARRETODEMon Feb 06 1989 18:0148
    Mike,
    
    Thanks for the reply.  I left a message with Mary with my phone
    number and to ask you to get in touch vial this NOTE (I don't have
    DTN and this is someone else's DecMail account).
    
    I went out and bought another copy of UMS.  Same problem.  I simply
    cannot figure out how to either change an existing scenario or create
    a completly new one.
    
    I don't consider myself to be stupid and I've read the instruction
    manual cover to cover.  At best, the instructions are vague and
    at worst, they are wrong.
    
    Maybe some specifics would help:
         1. Creating a new scenario...I can create a new map and give
    it a unique name, no problem.  I can create a new army (say white)
    and give it a new name.  But how do I create the Black army and,
    more importantly, how do I tie at least three elements together
    (two armies and a map) so that the program knows these three are
    the pieces of a new scenario?
    
         2. The CREATE SCENARIO icon asks if you want to create a new
    or edit an old.  But if I try to create a new scenario, the program
    asks for a disk and filename.  Typing in a unique name for a new
    scenario doesn't work, UMS just beeps at me ( it seems to want me
    to give it an existing scenario name.  Isn't that the same an simply
    editing an existing scenario?).
    
         3. Even editing an old scenario doesn't seem to work.  The
    addendum page indicates that the method in the instruction book
    is wrong, but doesn't work either way.  I've edited existing armies
    to add new elements but when you run the scenario, the new elements
    aren't recognized by the program.
    
    
    It's hard to imagine that so much work was put into the code of
    a program as good as this seems to be, while so little effort was
    put into the documentation.  I've tried getting in touch with Rainbird
    with no luck.  If you managed to figure this one out, I would
    appreciate any help you can give me.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Terry H.
    Reno, Nevada
    702-322-2104
    
2052.3Made a breakthrough!!SANFAN::BARRETODETue Feb 07 1989 16:0420
    Mike,
    
    Finally got through to Rainbird!  
    
    Their rep talked me through building the scenarios...tried it last
    night and it worked ok.
    
    One last problem, though. Either a newly created or modified scenario
    only executes one engagement then says the simulation is over. 
    Stats indicate something like a 10% loss on the losing side with
    the winning side having won a decisive victory.  The Gettysburg
    pre-programmed simulation runs over half an hour with dozens of
    engagements deciding the outcome.  How do they does this and how
    does the computer decide that one side has finally won?
    
    Getting there slowly...
    
    Terry Hutchin
    Reno, Nevada
    
2052.4re short battlesTHRILL::NELSONWed Feb 15 1989 11:2313
It looks like UMS does not understand your time specification and is only
giving you 1 "turn".  Did you get the 8 battle segments?

Check the time setup on the scenario maker.  The time are entered in
military time (7 PM = 1900, etc.).  Apparently it will not allow more
than 1 day so your stuck "kludging" longer battles from 0000-2400 in
the same day.

				Let me know how you make out.

						Mike

P.S.  Sorry for the late reply...I was out last week.
2052.5What 8 segments?SANFAN::BARRETODEWed Feb 22 1989 21:1711
    Mike,
    
    I'm not sure what you mean by 8 battle segments.
    
    I have been specifying an 8-hour battle with 10-minutes graduations.
     Is that what you are talking about?
    
    
    Terry