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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:	AMIGA NOTES
Notice:	Join us in the NEW conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:	HYDRA::MOORE

Created:	Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:	Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5378
Total number of notes:	38326

1971.0. "A NOVICE NEEDS HELP.." by AYOV16::GHUTCHEON () Thu Dec 08 1988 02:13

    Well I don't know if this question is to simple to answer but here
    goes.
    
    I've just bought a 500 and am wondering how you manage to down load
    the archived software from the VAX. ie what software and exactly where 
    youhave you computer (at home via telephone or at work on a LAT line).
    
    Could you also advise about extra manuals as i don't find the manuals
    included all that helpfull about using the operating system from
    the CLI (or have I missed something in the book).
    
    thanks

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1971.1	it's easy...	LEDS::ACCIARDI	Time to change this damn message	`Thu Dec 08 1988 02:28`	42
	You'll need a modem and a terminal program for the Amiga end. I recommend HandShake or Smokey. How do you get the terminal program without the modem? More on that later. You'll also need a version of XMODEM or KERMIT on your Vax. I use XMODEM exclusively, since it is quite a bit faster. You can copy a working version of XMODEM from LEDS3::USER6:[ACCIARDI.AMIGA]XMODEM.EXE To get XMODEM to run from the Vax end, you should define it as a command in your login.com file. Once you have connected your Amiga to your Vax via the terminal program, you would do the following (from the Vax end of things) $ XMODEM -is FILENAME.ARC At this point, you would select 'TRANSFER FILE' from you Amiga terminal program. The two XMODEMS will shake hands and begin. Once the file is transferred, you'll need to unpack it somehow. Most files are stored here in ARC or ZOO format. You'll need the ARC and ZOO executables on your Amiga to unpack them. There are a few technicalities here... XMODEM need files to be stored (on the Vax end) in STREAM_LF or fixed 128 byte format. If the file is stored in 510 byte format (which Kermit likes) or variable length records, then XMODEM will barf. To convert files from one format to another, use CVTARC.EXE, also located in the directory I mentioned. Define CVTARC as a command in your login.com, and type... $ CVTARC U OLDFILE NEWFILE I'd be glad to send you a disk containing the terminal program a d the needed unpacking utilities. Contact me via e-mail for details. Ed.
1971.2	CHEERS	AYOV16::GHUTCHEON		`Thu Dec 08 1988 04:17`	4
	THATS GREAT THANKS.. GRAEME
1971.3	Starter Disk in Ayr already.	AYOV28::ATHOMSON	C'mon, git aff! /The Kelty Clippie	`Thu Dec 08 1988 07:14`	8
	Before you go to all the bother of a transatlantic disk swap.... Give me a call (I, and about 4 or 5 other amiga owners, am in Ayr...) as I already have a copy of Ed's Starter disk and a whole bunch of other useful stuff. Alan T. (x 4187)
1971.4		NAC::PLOUFF	Cider Season Has Begun	`Thu Dec 08 1988 12:14`	12
	CLI manual: In the U.S., there's an AmigaDOS manual published by Bantam, trade paperback size with one of those plastic spines, so it lays flat. Be sure to get the edition that says "includes Version 1.2" on the cover. (Is a version 1.3 edition coming out?) Depending on what documentation came with your machine, some features of version 1.3 may not be covered. Downloading: Do a "DIR/TITLE=download" on this notesfile to read numerous horror stories. Seems everybody has his own personal recipe, arrived at by trial and error. Best way to figure it out is, unfortunately, get together with someone who already can download successfully.