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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1944.0. "Pro page Help needed" by WILKIE::LEIMBERGER () Sat Dec 03 1988 10:37

    	I upgraded from PageSetter to Professional Page.While I found
    Pagesetter easy to use I find Pro Page somewhat perplexing. an example
    of this is creating a shadowed box.With Pagesetter you simply select
    to modify the active box click on the icon for shadowed,and exit.
    An you havea shaowed box.In Pro Page as near as I can tell you have to first
    clone the box,arrange the two boxs to how you like them,and then
    fill the shadowed box.This bought up another problem filling the
    box.I think you have to "draw a box" around the shadowed box before
    you can fill it.I can see where Pro Page allows more control over
    the end result,but the lack of documentation makes it hard for us
    new users.I ran into the same problem in regards to outlining a
    box.How do you represent the different outline schemes abailable
    in Pagesetter?Any advice,tricks,or tips that other users have are
    welcome.Also I do not have access to a postscript printer so I tried
    to use a dot matrix printer.The results were unusable.I called Gold
    Disk answered all the questions(printer type etc.)only to find out
    that the problem is the way Pro Page outputs to my printer.The next
    update due out in December will correct this.Since then I called
    Gold Disk only to find out it has been pushed out to January.No
    big deal!Except this puts the update outside the 90 day period for
    free replacement.I am still working this issue with Gold Disk an
    will have an answer next week when I call.Do Not Misunderstand this
    Note,I LIKE GOLD DISK,JUST WANT TO TELL ANYONE WHO UPGRADED IN
    SEPTEMBER TO CHECK WITH THEM.
    							bill
    P.S.I sold pagesetter to a friend,and Gold Disk said if I sent in
    his name,and address with a request to transfer support of Pagesetter
    to him they would do so.
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1944.1AGNESI::EKLOFWe're everywhere.Sun Dec 04 1988 18:2937
Shadowing...

	As far as I can tell, your solution is the only way.  Shadowing is not
a common treatment in the "real world", and when done, is usually done in a
mechanical way simmilar to the way you describe.  There are also some fonts
(not in ProPage, though) that have shadows built in.  Their use is usually
confined to display advertising.

"Backgrounds"...

	Yes this is done as a separate step.  I suspect this was to give the
product more of a "real world" flavour.  Having done it on both mechanicals
and ProPage, I can tell you that ProPage is easier and faster.

Outline...

	Do you mean outlining the text, or borders around the box?  If the
former, then that can be done with ease, just as you would do bold, or italics.
I'm not sure why they made this available, and shadow not.  I'd put them in
the same class of novelty treatments which are usually used in adverts.

	If you mean box borders, then again, I suspect the change was to give
a "real world" feel.  On mechanicals, you do borders as a separate step, using
something called border tape.  The 'structured graphics' tools simulate this
rather nicely, and I find adding borders as a separate step more intuitive.

	If you're used to PageSetter, then I guess you'll have a bit of
adjustment to ProPage.  If you're used to mechanical graphic arts, then you
should find ProPage easier to deal with.

Printers...

	What printer do you have?  I've been having mixed results on my
KXP-1091i.

Mark
1944.2maybe dropped shadow?MAMIE::LEIMBERGERMon Dec 05 1988 08:2036
    RE .1                             
    >what printer are you using
    	I am using a Smith Corona DP200 with the MPS_1000 driver,working
    off the parallel port.It works when I am not using Pro Page.The
    support person from Gold Disk said the next version will do a very
    good job with dit matrix printers.
    
    Shadowing...   I think I should have said "dropped shadow"
    	All mention of shadowing was to boxs not text.While playing
    around last night I 
    	1.created a box.
    	2.cloned it
    	3.adjusted the offset on the boxs
    	4.selected the rear box
    	5.selected the fill color,and pattern.
    	6.selected Alter active box,and clicked on the outline icon
    	7.selected the group boxs tool and grouped the two boxs together
    This is starting to work better but I ran into problems 
    |------------------------|
    |tis box outlined        |
    |    filled white        ____________|
    |                        |           |
    |------------------------|           |
                |this box gray           | 
                -------------------------|
I wanted the front box outlined but not filled,the rear box filled gray,but
    every time I set outline on the front box it filled.I was in the
    process of trying different combinations of active box,fill,etc
    when I had to give it up to go look at some marbles.If anyone knows
    the correct way to select,and fill for this type of application
    it will save me many hours of experimenting.Sorry about the vague
    note in .0 but I am just starting to learn both desktop publishing
    and the proper vocabulary.
    							bill