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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1916.0. "some news items" by BAGELS::BRANNON (Dave Brannon) Mon Nov 28 1988 23:55

 Commodore - Adds 450 stores as dealers
   Commodore said it signed agreements with seven chains that sell business
 computers and personal computers. The new dealers said they plan to support
 the products, particularly Commodore's Amiga line, with software selection,
 customer service and, in some cases, dedicated marketing managers and training
 programs. While Amiga has been gaining some sales momentum, a major barrier
 has been Commodore's history of poor relations with computer dealers.
	{The Wall Street Journal, 25-Nov-88, p. 12}


In the latest A.B.A.C.U.S. newsletter, is a COMDEX report from GENIE.  It's 
mostly ST news, but did have one item of Amiga interest.  Antic Publishing
was showing off their new Amiga magazine, "Amiga Plus". 
(Antic Magazine covers the Atari 8-bit and ST computers)

They have been publishing programs for the 8-bit computers for a long time.
Things that use display lists (copper lists), player-missle graphics (hardware
sprites that can be as tall as the screen), dual playfields, etc.  Same sort
of strange stuff you can find buried in the Amiga.


I just got a new Abacus book at the Memory Location, it's titled "Amiga Disk
Drives Inside & Out".  Lots of good stuff, it even has assembler source
code for a disk copier that will copy IBM and Atari ST disks in addition
to Amiga disks.  Memory Location price is $26.  It covers accessing AmigaDOS
from Basic and C, AmigaDOS disk format, talking to the trackdisk device, MFM,
GCR, the bootblocks, etc.

-dave
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1916.1Software Etc. has 'em...LEDS::ACCIARDIInsert witty anti-Dukakis slogan here - Tue Nov 29 1988 11:1815
    
    Software Etc (in the Greendale Mall, Worcester) had a shiny new
    A500 sitting in it's display window, right next to an IBM Model
    30 and a Mac Plus.  Not only was it visible, it was up and running!
    This is remarkable condsidering that most multi-brand dealers usually
    use the Amiga as a doorstop or paperweight.  (I suspect this is
    due to higher margins on Apple and IBM equipment.  No sense busting
    your butt to make a few lousy bucks on an Amiga.)
    
    They also carry AmigoTimes and other hard-to-find Amiga publications.
    As of last Saturday, they had no Amiga software in stock, but they
    swore that a truckload was arriving on Monday.
    
    Ed.
    
1916.2we sell computahsMANTIS::LONGTue Nov 29 1988 11:457
RE .1
	Amazing! And possibly scary. I asked about Amiga software at Software 
	Etc two months ago and nobody knew what an Amiga was!!!  In other
	words, I wouldn't go there with a question more technical than
	"How much?"

		Dick
1916.3In KC alsoLOWLIF::DAVISThat's not a BUG, it's a FEATURE!Tue Nov 29 1988 15:525
We have a couple of Software Etc stores here in Kansas City too.  They have
just started carrying Amiga software, mags, and books.  They are expecting
to be selling hardware before Christmas.

...richard
1916.4A glimmer of things to come..?NWD002::FREEMANROFIREWALKERTue Nov 29 1988 22:2310
    Question: are these guys an extension of B. Dalton Books?  We have
    one here in Bellevue, Washington but they stopped carrying Amiga
    software and manuals months ago.  I hope that this is an indication
    that they'll pick it up again soon.  Our next best source is Family
    Computing centers which support the Amiga and Atari. There were
    a few others but they shut down the Amiga line due to low profit
    margin.
    
    Rob
    
1916.5General Computer Stores no longer to sell AmigaEUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMWed Nov 30 1988 12:2113
    General Computer Stores are dropping the Amiga Line of computers.
    They no longer sell external disk drives or memory expansion, will
    soon be discontinueing the A500 computers (they don't sell a2000
    now) and are not sure of the software.
    
    The Salesmen told me they were leaving reputable computer stores
    so they could sell the machine in cheap department stores.  Somehow,
    I don't really belive him.  Should I?
    
    As stated in .0, they are being added to buisiness/personal computer
    stores.
    
    Steve O
1916.6Dealers increasing, not decreasingNAC::PLOUFFCider Season Has BegunWed Nov 30 1988 12:4718
    Re:  Amiga leaving reputable computer stores.
    
    Wes Young, a stockbroker at A.G. Edwards in Boston, has reported
    to the Boston Computer Society for several months running that
    Commodore is building its dealer network.  The last number he mentioned
    was at least 1200 dealers.  Commodore is also moving from independent
    manufacturers' representatives to in-house sales and dealer support
    reps.  They've even hired part-time product demonstrators in New
    England to help dealers at events like shopping mall exhibitions.
    
    Recent Usenet articles report a big increase in Commodore's support
    level to its dealers.
    
    C-64s in cheap department stores, yes.  Commodore PC clones in
    department stores, maybe.  Amiga in department stores, definitely
    not.
    
    Wes
1916.7Software Etc. sells Amiga softwareFSLPRD::GDEJULIOWed Nov 30 1988 14:1135
    RE: Software Etc.
    
    
         Software Etc. is controlled by B. Dalton as is Barnes and Noble.
    As of this Monday (Nov 30th), Software Etc. stores started carrying
    Amiga software and have an Amiga 500 on display.  They have been
    carrying several Amiga magazines for the last couple of months.
    A new Software Etc store opened in the Burlington Mall on the second
    floor by Lord and Taylor.  They will demo programs on the computer
    if you are really interested, but they shy away from this during
    the Christmas season and particularly the weekends when it is very
    busy.  They also have a very liberal return policy.  If the software
    does not run properly or if you are dissatisfied for any reason
    you can return the product as long as it is in saleable condition
    and the warranty card was not mailed in.  As of 11/30/88 there is
    not very much on the shelves for the Amiga, however, they are expecting
    between 40 and 60 titles.
    
         As far as the knowledge of the staff goes, it differs from
    store to store.  At the Software Etc. store in the Burlington Mall,
    the staff is more knowledgeable than the average user.  The senior
    salesperson is attending Northeastern University for Computer Science
    and has written software for the business software for the Macintosh
    and he owns and loves his Amiga 500.  Another salesman, Larry, works
    at Wang as a Hardware Engineer and is quite familiar with IBM's
    and compatibles.  And I have a B.S. in Computer Science and own
    a Macintosh SE and I'm also considering getting an Amiga 500.  Most
    of the other sales people have a decent knowledge of at least one
    computer family.  I hope this information will be usefull to anyone
    looking for Amiga software.
    
    
                                                     - Jeff C.
    
    
1916.8Commodore's press release on new storesNAC::PLOUFFCider Season Has BegunFri Dec 02 1988 12:5930
    Press Release: 
    
    WEST CHESTER, PA., Wednesday, November 23, 1988 -- Commodore
    International Limited (NYSE:CBU) today announced that Commodore
    Business Machines, Inc. has signed agreements with seven business
    and consumer computer/software dealer chains, adding nearly 450
    new stores to the U.S. subsidiary's distribution network.
    
    The new dealers are Software Etc. with 230 stores nationwide;
    Electronics Boutique with 140 stores nationwide; Waldensoftware
    Inc. with 27 stores nationwide; PC Warehouse with 23 stores in the
    Northeast; DataPhaz, the Largest U.S. Computerland franchise, with
    12 stores in the West; Priority I with 7 stores in California; and
    Computerland, D.C. with three stores.
    
    Computerland, D.C., Priority I, DataPhaz, and PC Warehouse will
    carry one or more of Commodore's line of personal computers, which
    includes the Amiga and MS-DOS compatible product lines.  Software
    Etc., Waldensoftware, and Electronics Boutique will carry Commodore
    products with an emphasis on the Amiga 500 multi-tasking,
    graphics-oriented computer.
    
    Max Toy, President [...], said, "With the addition of these top-notch
    dealers to our solid base of stores, we not only expand our reach,
    but our customer support as well."  The seven dealers plan to support
    the products, in particular the Amiga line, with software selection,
    customer service, and in some cases, dedicated marketing managers
    and training programs.
    
    [Paragraph describing Commodore omitted.]