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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1855.0. "A mild flame about Amiga Centers." by RAVEN1::EVERHART () Fri Nov 04 1988 17:10

    	I would like to relate a little story about what could be a
    problem with business practices of authorized Amiga dealers.  One
    of the most well known dealers for Amiga hardware and equipment
    here in the south is the 64 Store in Atlanta, GA.  I have seen their
    adds many times in Amiga World, and apparently, they do a lot of
    business.  They are apparently trying to push a name change to "The
    Amiga Center," although their card says: 64 Store Amiga Center
    on it.
    	Now that I have set this up, let me continue with my story.
    Friday, October 21, I called the 64 Store to see if they had received
    their shipment of Version 1.3 of our OS.  They said no, but that
    it would definitely be in by the early part of the next week.  I
    gave them plenty of time, and tried to call on Saturday, the 29th.
    Digital was having a family thing at Six Flags, in Atlanta, so I
    was going to be there anyway, but the 64 store wasn't open until
    10:00, so my call was useless.  I decided that was fine, so I went
    down there anyway on my way to Six Flags.  When I walked in, they
    told me the shipment had not arrived, and they didn't know when
    it would.  They made NO attempt to apologize, and threw the blame
    on me by saying that I should have called before driving 110 miles.
    I, through my clenched teeth, explained that I couldn't wait all
    day for them to open, and that they should never have told me they
    were sure about when they were getting the shipment in if they weren't.
    They just shrugged their shoulders and ignored me.  What I am getting
    at is this: Do all salespeople at computer centers act this way?
    I wonder what would have happened if I had worn my Digital badge
    into the store.
    	Please give me some response to this uncalled for incident.
    It has made me decide not to do any more business with this store,
    so I will now have to have my father send me things from Delaware
    (which is only about 30 miles from Commodore Capital anyway)
    
     - Chris
    
    
    *The above information is compiled from my own opinions and
    experiences, and does not in any way reflect that of DEC.
    
    
      
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1855.1call firstANT::JANZENTom LMO2/O23 296-5421Fri Nov 04 1988 17:455
    Basically, my attitude is, "nothing ever works, and nobody knows
    anything."
    It keeps me from taking things for granted and setting myself up
    for disapointment.
    Tom
1855.2partly your fault; inform store's managementSAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterFri Nov 04 1988 17:4613
    It seems to me that part of the problem is yours, for believing
    the "real soon now" promise.  However, they should not have treated
    you badly.  They should, for example, have promised to send you
    one as soon as it came in (for a suitable deposit).  System Eyes
    did this for me, and I only had to drive 5 miles to reach it!
    
    It may be that you encountered a particularly bad sales person.
    Just in case that is the case, you should write a letter to the
    store, describing your experience and giving the date and time.
    To management, it shouldn't matter whose fault caused your
    disappointment---their sales persons should be courtious and helpful
    to anyone who walks in the door, no matter what.
        John Sauter
1855.3Almost always wrongTLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersFri Nov 04 1988 17:538
Re: .0

My experience has been that any estimate of when a shipment will arrive
is wrong.  Doesn't matter how good the store, what brands they carry, or
what merchandise is sold.

This has been true of every computer store (Amiga and non-Amiga, business-
oriented or consumer-oriented) I've dealt with.
1855.4History repeats on youQUASER::VEGATomFri Nov 04 1988 18:0019
    
    
    	I had a similar experience here in Colorado Springs.  Besides
    	being rude, the salepersons gave me bad information which I
    	could disprove by just reading a box on the counter top.  There
        is no good reason for rudeness, period.
    
    	For the most part I can trace the source of these kinds of people
        to the management.  When I go to store that is trying to establish
        themselves, they bend over backwards to help.  When I go to
        a store that has a lot of success, the temptation is strong
        not to try as hard.
    
    	What it boils down to is, what are you willing to put up with.
        I, for one, am willing to pay a little more for polite,
        knowledgeable service.
    
    				Time to get off my soap box,
    				Tom
1855.5HmmmRAVEN1::EVERHARTFri Nov 04 1988 18:2515
    Thanks for the information.
    
    re .2
    	The funny thing about it was that there were 3 salespeople
    listening to me, and ALL of them were acting the same way.  I felt
    that the least they could do was offer to send me the package. 
    I would have been happy to put down the deposit.  I didn't feel
    any anger at the shipping date being wrong.  I was just angry at
    their attitude toward the whole thing.  Whatever happened to "The
    customer is always right?"
    
    	Oh well, life goes on.
    
     - Chris
    
1855.6retail sales, eh ? Nah, shippit CODHPSMEG::REGa little risc averseFri Nov 04 1988 19:139
    
    	Arrgghhh !    This stuff makes me boil !   I WANT TO support
    local businesses, help keep them in business so I can try_before_I_buy
    but this is exactly the kind of experience that sends me to the
    little mail order ads in the back of magazines.  Its not limited
    to this hobby either.
    
    	R
    
1855.7Talk about a flame???...Soapbox???HPSTEK::SENNASun Nov 06 1988 00:1823
    I hope this kind of service doesn't surprize you folks!!!
    This is the way things are in America today!! Polite, and conciderate
    service is on the steady decline as prices are on the sharp incline!
    
    Good and polite service is making room for the drive thru teller,
    fast food, fast paced society we live in. I've even heard of a drive
    in church service somewhere in the south! 
    
    You have to forgive me, but this subject is one that gets me totally
    pissed!!! Watch an old movie and see how a customer gets treated
    in stores and resturaunts...better yet, take a trip to Japan. The
    customer is more than just right...he/she is treated "special".
    Just try and monitor your interactions with salespeople, waitresses
    etc. How about taking a trip to NYC...There's a place...If you're
    into S & M then you really get your moneys worth! I'll stop here!
    I hope I have't offended anyone but like I said , this is a biggy
    for me.
    
    		Sorry, Tom
    
    P.S. I could probably fill up a whole notes file and use up an
    ra81 just on this subject...I've erased about 30-40 lines cause
    this is not the place for me to vent my anger! 
1855.8good dealer in AtlantaUSAT05::BURKHARTSun Nov 06 1988 16:528
    If you are looking for a fairly decent AMIGA dealer in Atlanta I
    would recommend : PC Exhcange in Lilburn. They have been very helpful
    and have good prices.
    
    Jim
    
    { no vested interest, just another pilgrim looking for truth and
    beauty }
1855.9Bad Buisness!NOBHIL::BODINE_CHMon Nov 07 1988 15:5622
    I understand completely what you are might be feeling. Here's another
    one.
    
    I went into a local store (which I had given 100's of dollars of
    buisness in the past) and bought a game (the game was ARGHH!). When
    I got it home, I discovered that it didn't run properly on my old
    A1000 due to some weird copy protection stuff that they did to the
    disk. Well, I knew this wasn't the stores fault but I took it back
    to them to see if they were going to stand behind me on this one.
    
    Not only did they not exchange or refund the purchase, but they
    accused me of making a copy of it and trying to rip them off. I was
    livid!! I had to eat the price of this game which never did work
    on my computer.Fortunately, I had a friend who wanted to buy it
    from me and it worked fine on his newer Amiga.
    
    Needless to say, I never gave them my buisness again. What I don't
    understand is how buisnesses that take this attitude manage to
    stay around. As I told them, "Why would I want to come into your
    store and pay premium prices if you are not going to provide any
    service." Obviously, it's cheaper to order the stuff from a mail
    order house.
1855.10ACK!RAVEN1::EVERHARTMon Nov 07 1988 17:3914
    re .9
    
    	You should have threatened to sue them for such accusations.
    (Just kidding)  I wonder what I'd do if someone ever accused me
    of such a thing.  Besides, I don't know of any way that copying
    a disk could make the ORIGINAL not work.
    
    	Does anyone know of an Amiga sales center in Greenville, SC?
    It would be much closer than driving 110 miles from Clemson to Atlanta.
    Besides, I WORK in Greenville.
    
    
     - Chris
    
1855.11!NOBHIL::BODINE_CHTue Nov 08 1988 18:005
    re .10
    
    Actually, I threatened to beat them sensless, but then I realized
    that they had no sense :^)