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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1787.0. "Download? You must be joking!" by FOOT::HERBERT (Herbie Goes Bananas!) Tue Oct 18 1988 12:58

Dear All,

    I am concerned regarding the issue of downloading software from
    the network to a local machine.  Everyone I have spoken to
    has said, "it is against regulations to connect 'non-Digital Products'
    to Digital Products, including the network".  To which I reply,
    can I use a modem?
 
    The security issues involved, obtaining passwords etc. means this idea 
    was dropped, because my interest was purely personal and did not meet 
    with a business need.


    How can I, a humble Digit, download software on to my beloved Amiga?
    Who can I turn to next?  Are there any issues that have been over
    looked?  
    
    The fact that the software is on the network, freely available, and
    well publicized, should support my case, but it does not!
  
    Please help to throw some light on the subject....
    
    
    Your truely,
    
    Herbie. (A Digit in the U.K.)
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1787.1Try Sneakernet (Ramblenet in UK?)NAC::PLOUFFCider Season Has BegunTue Oct 18 1988 14:038
1787.2Via a PC clone.AYOV10::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieWed Oct 19 1988 13:0628
1787.3RAVEN1::EVERHARTWed Oct 19 1988 15:3614
    	Before I knew about this mess of not hooking non-DEC equipment
    up, I brought my Amiga in, and plugged it straight into the network
    for use as a terminal.  Beforehand, I had a VT100 plugged in.  The
    cable (RS232 DB25) seemed to work just fine with my Amiga, although
    I think I had to do a gender change, but I'm not sure.  This should
    also work with a PC.  To transfer data from the PC to the Amiga
    (This IS what you are going to do, right?) just buy a null-modem
    ($15 US at Radio Shack.  Mail order for only $4), and use it to
    connect Ami to the IBM.  Then, get out your transfer programs, and
    crank the baud rate as high as you can get it, and let them rip.
    Good luck!
    
     - Chris
    
1787.4Null modem cableTLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersWed Oct 19 1988 20:2311
Re: .2

If you have an Amiga 500 or 2000, just use a null modem cable designed
for connecting two IBM pcs (a null modem cable).  If you have a 1000,
you'll need a gender cable in addition to that cable.

RS-232 cables bought from computer stores only seem to run the modem
control lines, so you don't have to worry about them passing the
power lines.  DEC cables, or at least DEC cables from a few years
back, seem to run a lot of extra lines in addition to those need
for modem control.  Those cables are more dangerous.
1787.5BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonThu Oct 20 1988 00:1619
    re: .0 
    >"it is against regulations to connect 'non-Digital Products'
    >to Digital Products, including the network"
    
    I wonder if they have ever heard of DECnet-DOS.  It runs on 
    ibm pcs and compatibles (definitely not a Digital Products).

    
    re:.2
    >A question on VAXmates too... Am I correct in saying that VAXmates
    >can read/write to IBM 360k floppies, but is unreliable formatting
    >them ? (I intended to format them on the clone, but if I don't have
    >to - so much the better.)
    
    It isn't just VAXmates.  The VAXmate is a clone of an IBM AT.  ATs
    have 1.2Mb floppy drives.  Those drives will format a floppy to
    360K, but sometimes a 360K drive won't be able to read it.
    
    -Dave
1787.6Make your own cable?FORTY2::TATHAMNick Tatham @REOThu Oct 20 1988 06:2110
re .2

>    Any idea of
>    which (DEC) cable I should look for ? 

You can always make up your own - I did and it worked. See 1533.1 et seq.

Nick


1787.7OK so far.AYOV10::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieThu Oct 20 1988 13:317