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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1535.0. "500 OR 2000?" by GUCCI::HERB (AL) Wed Jul 13 1988 15:21

    I have been wanting to buy a amiga ever since I saw a demostration
    of the amiga.And now I have the money to buy one I have a few
    questions.
    
    
    1.   What is the difference between a amiga 500 and a 2000?
    
    2.   Can the amiga 500 be expanded?
    
    3.   Can I use amiga's 640 X 400 mode on a TV?
    
    4.   What is the cheapest price I could buy a amiga 500 without
    a moniter?
    
    5.   What are the limitations of HAM mode?
    
    Fun Fact:HAM is my initials spelled backwards!!!!!!
    
    
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1535.1The Amiga 500 ... And You!NITMOI::WITHERSWed Jul 13 1988 17:3765
    Al, (and everyone else for that matter), my name is George Withers
    and I just started working here in Tewksbury (Systems Software
    Engineering) and I am a 500 owner.  I'll try to answer your queries.
    
    1. [Difference between A500 and A2000]
    
    	The A500 is a semi-stripped one-piece unit.  Besides the basic
    expansions (see section 2) you would have to add things on via the
    DMA port on the right side of the machine.  This is the same with
    the A1000's.  The A2000 comes with a bus built in.  This is more
    akin to an (ick) IBM PC AT.  There are slots, etc.  Besides this
    the two are more or less the same.  The A2000 being prettier with
    a detachable keyboard, housing for harddrive, 5 1/4 drive and extra
    3 1/2 drive built in etcetera.
    
    2. [A500 Expandability]
    
    	The A500 has a number of ports built in.  RGB Output [MONITOR],
    Serial Port [MODEM], Parallel Port [PRINTER], Composite Output [B/W
    VCR-TV], Disk Drive [DISK-DRIVE], Game Port #2 [JOYSTICK], Game
    Port #1 [MOUSE], and Memory Bus [A501+ 512K MEMORY CARD].  So, all
    the items listed in [] go right on.  And the DMA port is used for
    any special goodies such as harddrives, genlock devices, hurricane
    boards, etc.  So....I'd call it expandable.
    
    3. [640 x 400 on a Tv]
    
    	I just bought my A500 a month ago and just ordered the extra
    512K the morning.  I have yet to have enough money for the monitor.
    What I am using is a special cable to convert RGB to Composite and
    am plugged into a Commodore 1702 Composite Color Monitor (Chrona/Luma).
    The resoultion is a little lower.  Small characters are crammed
    but no modes are considered "NOT ACCESSABLE".  I assume a Tv will
    look about like my monitor assuming it is a fairly good quality
    Tv.  I am told by someone who used the patch cable to Tv that it
    looked perfect.
    	A note of warning.  The A500 has a Composite video output jack.
    This is Black and White only!  You will need to purchase a cable
    to plug between your Tv and the RGB Output port.  The A1000 has
    a color composite port but the A500 is only Black and White.
    
    4. [Lowest A500 price]
    
    	The lowest I saw the price was mail-order from RSISystems out
    of Warwick Rhode Island.  The price was $545 for the A500 alone
    without monitor.  Stock with mouse, AmigaBasic, WorkBench, and 512K
    memory.  There phone is 1-800-752-7747.  I recieved it (in
    Massachusetts) in two days.  I have had no problems.
    
    5. [Limits of HAM]
    
    	I don't know as much about the problems with HAM mode.  I don't
    believe standard file structures (like IFF) with work well with
    HAM pictures but I really haven't looked into the problem much.
    I have seen HAM artwork and it's slick.  But I dunno -- 'Nuff said.
    
    Well, I hope this helps.  Sorry if I restated the obvious or got
    longwinded but I think this answers your question (well 4 out of
    5 isn't too bad).
    
    TTFN -- Ta Ta For Now,
    George Withers, SSE [Mail: TWO/C5]
    EMail: KISMIF::WITHERS  DTN:247-2173
    [Any problems or questions just drop me a line or call!]
     
1535.2observe TV appearance before buyingSAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterWed Jul 13 1988 18:089
    Some TVs are better than others, and your standard of "good enough"
    may not be the same as mine, so I can't be sure if your TV will
    produce acceptable output when fed a 640 by 400 image or not.
    I suggest you try it, and see if it meets your criteria.
    
    Several years ago I tried to use a TV set as part of a terminal
    emulator.  I found that I could not read more than 40 characters
    across the screen.
        John Sauter
1535.3Lowest price for a AMIGA 500VIA::STEWARTWed Jul 13 1988 19:344
    The lowest price for a AMIGA 500 is $499.00 and the store is
    in Salem N.H. I brought my system there and it included a monitor,
    512 RAM, external drive and the a cable for about $1100.00.
    	the name of the store is OMNITEK which also has a store in MASS.
1535.4<Agreed! Exercise caution in Tv appearenceNITMOI::WITHERSWed Jul 13 1988 20:047
    On the Tv appearence I agree with John.  I didn't buy my Composite
    interface until I had seen it function.  Some cables are better
    than others.  The chrona/luma cross cable is good.  I can easily
    read 80 characters and the only problem I have had was determining
    ships characters in Empire.  But the Tv cable I mentioned was on
    word of mouth and I haven't seen it.  'Nuff Said.
    
1535.5BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonWed Jul 13 1988 20:2615
    I have my A2000 hooked up to a 19 color TV, 80 columns are readable,
    but lots fuzzier than on an RGB monitor.  I also ran with 640x400
    for a while, but I normally sit too far from the TV to puzzle out
    the tiny, fuzzy text.
    
    Of course, Amiga 80 columns on a TV is 100 times better than my
    Atari 400's software 80 column output (4 pixel wide chars).
    
    I have seen no difference between the A1000 and A500/A2000 composite
    output other than the lack of color.  The monochrome composite may
    look better on a monochrome composite monitor, but I don't have
    one of those.  All you need is a cable with RCA jacks, connect
    the composite out to the video-in of a VCR.
    
    -dave