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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1500.0. " Soundscape 1.4" by EJMVII::ROSCETTI (Throw Madonna from the train) Fri Jun 24 1988 15:59

  Hi,

  Any Soundscape ( Mimetics PRO MIDI) experts out there?

 I've been using it for two weeks and so far it's great, but I've got a lot
 to learn before I'll know it's limitations. I have however run into one
 problem...

 When using Soundscape as a Midi recorder I have managed twice so far to get
a note STUCK. This has also happened when I've used used the midi keyboard
( CASIO) to trigger the AMIGA's internal sound.

 EX. I play C. it records C
 	    D		  C and D
	    E		  C and E
 
 This continues until clear it by re-playing C. This might be a useful effect
 if I can control when it happens.

 Has anyone else seen/heard or corrected this? Is it something I'm doing
 like to many keys pressed at once or sending data to quickly, or illegal
    loops set up in the patch panel?

 BTW this is V 1.4 of soundscape

 thanks 
 

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1500.1a few questions...MUNICH::CARLIBernardo da Vinci - the Amiga geniusMon Jun 27 1988 15:1611
    
    
    I tested SoundScape 1.4 for a German Amiga magazine a few weeks
    and had no problems at all. 
    Did you setup the right MIDI-Channels and is your MIDI-cable ok?
    What kind of loops or connections did you made on the patch-panel?
    SoundScape also allows a few different modes for recording and playing
    back (Trigger mode, Echo mode etc) - check if accidently you turned
    on one of these modes.
    
    Bernhard
1500.2More stuck notesGNUVAX::MEYERSTue Jun 28 1988 16:558
    I've had SoundScape 1.4 ever since it was released.   I've always
    had problems with stuck notes; they occur even when I'm
    just using SoundScape to play samples 
    triggered by a MIDI keyboard.  SoundScape also
    seems to generate spurious notes; usually they're about two octaves
    below middle C.                                        
    
    -- Joe Meyers
1500.3 MERIDN::ROSCETTIThrow Madonna from the trainTue Jun 28 1988 17:1624

Well, it's infrequent enough during normal playing but I can
force it to happen..

I tried the following setup and was able to get notes Stuck

	. put a sound in channel 1
	. connect Midi in to the amiga sound channel
	. run your thumb up and down midi keyboard,
	  press 10 notes at a time etc.
  	
I didn't have to open the tape deck at all to "force" the problem.
I have also never seen it during playback...

I have heard of some PD stuff put out by the developer, one of which
is supposed to clean up the midi clocks... I wonder if this will help.

brien

ps. I tried swapping midi in/out cables.. only using midi in etc. It's
    not cabling or external loops. Of course it may be sensitive to
    some keyboards.

1500.4DMCS and Synthia can stick notes tooANGORA::JANZENTom 296-5421 LMO2/O23Tue Jun 28 1988 17:1914
    DMCS can make stuck notes, but not when it's playing a score, only
    when I'm very quickly (I'm getting fast) entering a score from the
    screen keyboard window.  I often enter scores by pasting the notes
    in on the score, but if the durations are all the same (all eight
    notes, eg), then I use the keyboard window.  It doesn't do it any
    other time.
    It may have something to do with the Amiga sound device driver and
    queue.  In fact, Synthia does it when I move too fast, also.
    Synthia is not a score player, but I can play notes on the keyboard.
    If I'm holding a keyboard key down to hear a note of my instrument,
    and then select something, such as a window with the mouse, the
    note sticks until it's hit again when it's ready.
    Yeah, I think the Amiga sound device holds the answer to this.
    Tom
1500.5More random notes here too!TEMPE1::ARBUCKLEWIZARDMon Jul 11 1988 18:0828
    
    	re: .2
    
    	I have been working with Soundscape since January and have had
    to put up with these random notes (also 2 octaves below middle C),
    stuck notes and other wierdness.  I figured it was due to the
    cables, or proximity ot phone lines, power cables, etc and have
    survived.  Now that I know it is not just me, I'm concerned that
    perhaps the software itself is indeed bugged.  I do know that the
    set-up I have causes random Cc127 to appear in the note sequences.
    I don't have a listing of the Control Change Codes, but I have
    checked in my keyboard manual and Cc127 is not implemented for
    either transmit or receive.  Can anyone tell me what is a Cc127?
    	One last thing before I end this note.  I have a friend
    that used to work for DEC before becoming a big-time synthesizer
    musician.  I believe he uses Soundscape also.  I think it's time
    to look him up and find out if he has had this happen to him.  I
    will post the results of my conversation with him here. 
    
    BTW-I have a Technics PR80, Roland MT-32 (just acquired yesterday)
    and the AMIGA with Soundscape.  There are times when I'm recording
    from the PR80 and the Record light shuts off on the Tape Deck
    without my doing/touching/setting anything.  Wierd, huh?
    
    
						Don
    						 ~
    
1500.6Long Time FixedBLKWDO::ARBUCKLEWIZARDWed Apr 05 1989 17:1419
    
    	I guess I forgot to respond with what I found out.
    
    	It turns out that my ECE MIDI box had a problem.  Apparently
    the early ECE boxes did not correctly pass on all MIDI data. These
    boxes were made for the Amiga 1000.  When the Amiga 500 became
    popular, they rushed a verison of the box that has some problems
    with Soundscape.
    	I brought the box back, and we tried another...same problem!
    When I brought the second one back, he had just received a new 
    shipment, so I took one of those, hooked it up...no more stuck
    notes, no more extra notes, no more wierdness!!
    	Incidently, we opened both boxes and they both appeared
    identical, so I can't tell you how to know which ones are ok
    and which are not.  Looks like trial and error to me.
    
    						Don
    						 ~
    
1500.7 maybe I'll build the roll your own from EMMERIDN::ROSCETTISome things u never get used toThu Apr 06 1989 20:3313
    
    
     Hmmm... I've got an ECE Midi Box for my 500 too. Is ECE aware of
    this problem ??  I.E. If I call about replacing the box will they
    know what I'm talking about?
    
     Then again I've seen some nice multi port Midi interfaces in a
    few magazines. Maybe it's time to upgrade.
    
    
    thanks...
    
    Brien