Conference hydra::amiga_v1

What PD player?  I tried the one in SOUNDS.ARC (I think that was it). Looked
real neet but just GURU'ed when I tried to play a sample in the .ARC.

I thought it was expecting a digitizer to be plugged in...?

John

    Try renaming the saved DMCS instrument with a .instr suffix after
    the name.  If that doesn't work, try a .ss suffix.
    
    I seem to recall Sonix appending the .ss to sampled sounds and the
    .instr to modified sounds.
    
    Ed.

re .1

John,  there is a Sonix player called PLAY that is shareware (not strictly PD)
in the MVCAD3 area.  It is written by Mark Riley (the author of Sonix) and will
play any Sonix score.  "Thriller" is also on MVCAD3 and PLAY will play.  Also,
if memory serves me, SOUNDS.ARC is the Perfect Sound digitizer and it worked
fine for me.  I have a newer version of Perfect Sound (2.1, maybe?).  I'll
upload if anyone wants me to.

re .2

Thanks Ed, I tried that too.  Any more ideas???

						...richard

Thanks Richard,  I'lkl have to try again...

John

       re .3
       
       Richard, I would certainly appreciate you uploading the newer
       version of Perfect Sound!
       
       Thanks
       
       Art
       

I'll upload the Perfect Sound digitizer to MDKCSW::DUA2:[DAVIS.AMIGA]PSOUND.ARC
later this evening.  It contains Perfect sound and some demo sounds also.

Regarding my original problem in .0.  Any ideas?  I'm really stuck with this
one.  Scott?  Are you there?? :-)

						...richard

    I found a PD 8SVX sound player.  Look in LEDS3::USER6:[ACCIARDI.AMIGA]
    The file is Play8SVX.PAK.
    
    If you're new to PAK, it's a self-dissolving compression scheme.
    Just store the .PAK file in RAM: or a destination directory, and
    type 'Filename.PAK' and the archive will dissolve.
    
    Ed.
    
    PS:  I think something like this should be included as a library
         in Wb 1.4.
    
    
    
    

    richard...(yes, I'm here, just busy as all get out;-)
    
    Sonix will play a dmcs song BUT only if you save it out of dmcs
    as a SMUS file. (and that is no easy task on some songs)
    
    as for the instrument, I didn't have any trouble loading it in the
    instrument section of sonix...did you try that?
    
    But unfortuanately, the amiga just doesn't have near the
    quality/quantity of sound related software as it does video related.
    
    but glad to see a bit more PD stuff coming along...hopefully will
    get a chance (one of these days) to play with the latest psound,
    and the play8svx stuff.                                 
    
    scott.

Scott,
  Here's an example of something that I'm trying to do, but won't work.  I
downloaded Thriller from MVCAD3, but it won't load into Sonix.  It dies on the
first instrument, thriller1.  In fact, thriller1 won't even load into the
instrument section.  It should, shouldn't it?  I have thriller1.instr and 
thriller1.ss in my directory.

						Confused,

						...richard

    What (if any) is the difference between "PLAY8SVX" and "PLAY"  Do
    they both read the same files/instruments or what.  That is, do
    I really need to have both of them or will just one do?
    
    Thanks,
    Still_confused
    

    While I haven't actually played with either (yet ;-), I ASSUME
    that the PLAY program actually plays songs in the SMUS IFF Format.
    This is what is used for songs...(except DMCS uses its own format)
    
    Instruments, and sampled sounds, etc are just 8 bit sampled voices
    (hence the 8SVX I think)...so PLAY8SVX is a way to hear the sounds
    or instruments without having any other music program.  The PSOUND
    editor software will also do this.  It will even load in raw data,
    and attempt to "play" it.
    
    So..yes, I think both are necessary, but maybe one is smartenough
    to do both?
    
    scott

    Well, RE: .9
    
    I tried my thriller, and it seems to load fine...BUT I did learn
    a thing or two...
    
    1.  Sonix likes things in the "SCORES" and "INSTRUMENTS" directories
    as defaults...else load a score/instrument first els it can't find
    its way  (just like dmcs)
    
    2.  The thriller1 loaded for me, BUT only would play on the keyboard
    screen on the C4 on up octave....zippo on all the others (thats
    the I,O,P,[,] keys)   same for thriller2, etc  (ie all the sampled
    sounds!)
    
    3.  thriller3 and 3b seem to be the same!
    
    4.  Not sure of the exact format on the  .instr files, but it looks
    like regular IFF files are ok  (they start with "FORM").  the sampled
    sounds ones just start with "SampledSound"  and the other instruments
    start with a lot of Null's....just use your favorite "zapper" to
    look at them....
    
    
    general comment...I don't really care for the way the sampled sounds
    bit works, since the sound keeps playing, reguardless of the note
    time value...and forget trying to adjust the tempo on any of the
    sampled wonders...
    
    
    hope this helps......scott.
    

Thanks to all for helping, my problem is solved!  Scott mentioned that Sonix
uses overlays and acts weird with just one drive so I did some testing.  It
turns out that Sonix loads something from the program disk the first time a
new format of an instrument is loaded.  Since I had only one drive it could
not get what it wanted and said "Can't load instrument from disk".

My temporary solution is to load one instrument of each type from the program
disk before trying to load from other disks.  When my drive comes in from
Abel, I'll have a MUCH better solution. :-)
							...richard