Conference hydra::amiga_v1

uEMACS could be set up similar to EDT on the Amiga. I use uEMACS as 
my VMS editor [with the EDT keypad], but I only have a A1000, so the EDT keypad
doesn't make much sense for me.

Robb

    
    I only use EDT (native or emulated) on the Vax instead of Emacs,
    the control keys being much too cryptic to me.
    
    However, uEmacs on the Amiga is great. No need to learn anything
    because of the menu interface, but commonly used commands eventually
    sink in since menus also display the keyboard equivalents.
    
Iv.

Of course, it depends on which microemacs you run.

The one released for Amiga by Mike Leibow is the one with the menu bar
interface, but it has no extension language for customizing the keyboard,
because it is based on the original author's (Dave Conroy) current version.

The one discussed in VSG::MICROEMACS has been independently enhanced by Dan
Lawrence in Lafayette, Indiana, and includes support for a customization
language, in which you should be able to make an EDT keypad, but is missing
some of the later enhancements done by Dave. (Like mouse support, which I
am putting in now.)  Also, the Amiga port was done in a very straightforward
manner, and there is no menu bar support.

Then there's Wecker's version that has a little Mlisp-like language, older
versions of Dan's, and other variations that people have generated over
the years.

So whats the easiest way to get a basic EDT-like editor (keypad stuff anyway)
on Amiga 500?

I pulled over uedit.arc and uedt.arc but uedt seems to be for A1000 (since
the keypad is nothing like A500?)I haven't tried installing this one yet.

Also, where is Emacs in .ARC form?  I saw Dave Weckert's (sp?) on cookie::
but its a bunch of .SHAR files???
 


John

    first off, there is a whole notes file on what seems to be emerging
    as a more complete uemacs, cant remember the nod off hand, but saw
    it listed in the listing file, and I follow it off and on.  While
    geared more to the ST (at least my opinion, since the moderator
    on the net has one), it supports vms, ultrix, MSDOS, etc...  You
    may want to loo into that...
    
    as for shar files...this is a kind of neat unix world trick...SHell
    ARchive...a means for grouping a bunch of files into a single file.
    then you just pass the single file to the Csh or other Shell, and...
    Presto...all the original files restored (great for source code
    and other ascii files)  this is why all the usenet stuff comes in
    this format, and they uuencode (ie translate to characters all the
    binary files)
    
    But you can unpack by hand using a text editor, or use another great
    dave wecker program   SHAR -u  to "unpack" the shar...then uudecode
    the files to get the binary files...either on the vax, or on Amy.
    they are bigger than arc files, but in the usenet land, almost all
    sites do some sort of compression on the transmitted data, so (based
    on a study I saw on the net last spring, a shar file of uuencode
    data is faster to transmit than an arc file (uuencoded), since the
    ascii representation of an arc file doesn't compress very well.
    
    I guess I could go on, but if you need more, study a few of the
    shar files, etc...(or send me mail...)
    
    scott.
    

.-1 is referring to VSG::MICROEMACS, which I moderate.  I also do local builds
of the VMS and ST versions, and have been making some enhancements.

Until Mike Leibow comes back, I'm actually looking for somebody who
would be willing to do some local builds of Microemacs for Amiga users.
All that is required is compiling the source kit (all in C, not sure which
compiler is supported for Amiga) and making any changes needed because of
differences between the Amiga and the other systems Microemacs runs on.

Also, since I am adding mouse support, It would be nice to get Amiga specific
code for reading mouse button up/down events into the keystroke stream.

If you're interested, drop me a line.