Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Paintjet_Driver is available in

 OASIS2""::HSC000$DUA7:[BERNARD.AMIGA]Paintjet.exe


I haven't tested this yet, since I'm working on a driver for a Ricoh 
laser printer.  Let me know how/if it works!


-john-

    Thanks for the driver, it works great.  I relocated the LJ250 to
    HomeSite and was able to print in color.  The LJ produces a very
    high quality picture from even a lo-res picture, it sure makes one
    think about employee purchase.
    
    So now I will be using the CMD program to trap the output to the
    printer and then upload it to the office for printing via the VAX.
    The only thing to remember is that the Paintjet driver outputs in
    HP-PCL protocol and the LJ250 is typically configured in the DEC
    protocol mode (which if you forget to change produces quantities
    of high quality meaningless text).
    
    
    					once again thanks muchly
    
    						wayne oakley
    

    I would be interested in seeing a sample.
    
    Paul

    Does the LJ250 require special paper?

The print head, ink and paper constitue a system. 

For the quality of print that the LJ250 and Paintjet are designed 
to produce, you should use HP Paintjet paper.  See VIDEO::TERMINALS 
notes file notes 708, 807, and 837 and their replies for more info.

Incomplete list of part nos. follows: 

From DEC: 

	LJ25X-AC	letter size, fanfold
	     -AD	A4 size, fanfold
	     -AE	transparancies, letter size, individual sheets
	     -AF	transparancies, A4 size, individual sheets

From HP: 

	  51630P	letter size, 250 sheets 

    
    
    I'm very interested to use the LJ250 with the Amiga
    
    But I've got some questions:
    
    Is the driver programm available on one of the Fish disks ?
    
    Also I've seen there is another driver available on the extra disk,
    I think it's a driver for the Xerox or Canon ink jet prprinter,
    Does it work with the LJ250 ?
    
    I'd like to print some IFF pictures here at the office,
    Is there somewhere on the net some files I could directly print
    to see result ?
    
    And Last question: Is it easy to connect the 2 engines ?
    Is an RS232 all right ?
                                     
    
    Thank you in advance for the answers ?
    
    
    E.G.
    
    
    
    

    HP-PAINTJET driver is the one to use with the LJ250 or LJ252.  The
    LJ250 is the serial version and the LJ252 is the parallel version.
    
    To get the LJ250 to work on the Amiga, plug in a serial cable, set
    the switches as follows  (for 9600 baud, HP PCL protocol, 8 bit,
    XON/Xoff)
    
    S1 - OFF
    S2 - ON
    S3 - OFF
    S4 - OFF
    S5 - OFF
    S6 - ON
    S7 - ON
    
    Install the HP-PAINTJET Driver using preferences, set printer to
    serial and color in preferences, and you're ready to print.
    
    On the parallel model (LJ252)  just plug and go.
  
    
   I can upload the driver if you can't find it.
    
    
    John
    

    
    Thank you for the info and your proposition,
    but I don't have access to a modem for the moment.
    
    
    Emmanuel
    
    

    re 1021.7
    
    Please can I have the driver?
    
    I started topic 1255 to get info about LJ250's with the Amiga, and
    eventually found 1021.1 saying the driver was on 
    OASIS2""::HSC000$DUA7:[BERNARD.AMIGA]PAINTJET.EXE, but it isn't
    there anymore.
    
    1021.7 says either parallel or serial will work, is one more preferable
    than the other?  Is there any reason this wouldn't work here in
    Australia?
    
    Thanks for your help
    
    Eleanor Brown

    The driver is currently on
    
    WINNER""::DISK$USER_1:[JBERNARD.AMIGA]PAINTJET.EXE
    
    
    I would recommend the parallel version (LJ252) since it comes with
    the proper cable to hook to the Amiga and keeps your serial port
    free for another printer or modem.
    
    John
    
    

    We have managed to get our hands on an LJ250, nice as a companion
    printer but not very colorfull....that is unless someone could make
    the paintjet driver available so that I could download it.
    
    Thanks in advance to the kind soul(s) who do.
    
    Jean
    

    HP Paintjet driver is now available on
    
    FSDEV1::DISK$USER1:[JBERNARD.AMIGA]HP_PAINTJET.EXE
    
    This file is not arced or compressed.  Just put it into your
    DEVS:PRINTERS directory as HP_Paintjet  and your on your way.
    
    
    John
    

    Does this allow you to use the LJ from the serial interface? If
    so do you power up in PCL mode?

Thats what I did. Works fine.

John

To use this driver with the LJ250 being driven by D-Paint II, I had to set the 
DIP switch to the HP position.

Dave

	I'm gonna take an LJ25? home this weekend, and I have some questions
because I have less than 1% familiarity with my Amiga (sad, isn't it?).

	From what I understand, the ProWrite system disk has the HP Paintjet
driver (which I've seen in there).  Does this driver work in both serial and
parallel?  If so, wouldn't it be better to get the 2 (for parallel) because
the speed will be better?  Can someone please help me out, I want to try this
printer (thinking of acquiring one) and I think I can, I just don't know.

Thanks in advance,

--mikie--

    
    
    	All print drivers work both parallel and serial. The port
    ( paralllel or serial ) is selected in preferences. The print
    driver has no control over this.
    
    		Steve Peters
    

	I just tried the LJ252 on my 500 last night, and it does not, repeat
NOT just "work."  I selected HP_Paintjet driver, parallel and hooked it up.
	It gave me line feeds, form feeds and garbage.  Nice self-test,
however.  If anyone has had this problem, please can you tell me what I did
wrong?  From the notes in here it was my impression you just plugged it in,
but it seems this didn't work for me.

	Plus my monitor blew a tube (FLAME=ON!).  I hope they weren't related.

	Again, if anyone can shed some light on why this didn't work, please
write me, call me, or reply here.  Thanks in advance,

Mike Bell
DTN  296-3560
Home  (508) 754-0165

	Ok, everything's fine.  My monitor is the popping 1084S, and I guess I 
needed to cut some pins for the printer to work.  Thanks for the info!

--mikie--

    
    Ok, let's dig up an old note.  I have an unusual problem; I'd like to
    grab the ear of anyone out there who has had a 250 (the serial version)
    and hopefully has 2.04.
    
    I am currently entering this note via MNP5 modem, so I know my CIA chip
    is not blown.  The LJ250 I have on pass, just came off of a port on a
    DECmate II and was running fine at work.
    
    However, when I try to print anything using the 2.04 driver
    (HP_Paintjet) the printer just sits there.  I get no printer trouble
    check paper and cabling, and I'm sure that the Amiga is transmitting;
    I've hooked it to the modem during a print (of course the modem was
    quite confused) and saw my SD (send data) light go on.  My LJ is set at
    8 bit/no par, 9600 Xon Xoff HP PCL.  So is the Amiga.
    
    I don't get it.  HELP!
    
    Mike
    
    P.S. this didn't happen when I had the '252 home! 

    I have had an LJ250 (serial) at homes for WB1.3, 2.03 and now 2.04. 
    Works very well with all three.  I just tested mine as I upgraded to
    2.04 last week.  It works well (more than I can say for DigiPaint 3).
    
    Tony

    My system is an A3000/16, BTW...

How is your serial port set up?

	Thanks,
		-SES

    Make sure the LJ is in HP mode, NOT DEC mode.  The serial cable for
    the LJ is also special, I think it must be straight (pin 2 to pin 2,
    pin 3 to pin 3 and pin 7 to pin 7 {from memory so may not be
    accurate}).  All I know is that a modem cable will not work but with a
    breakout box you should be able to whip up a working combination.
    
    Jean
    
    PS Make sure preferences are correct (HP paintjet driver,
    printer.device from WB1.3, serial port settings)
    

    I remember reading a note on another board that the LJ also needed to
    have CTS/RTS connected.  I don't know if this is correct.  Check prefs
    and see if you are set XON/XOFF or CTS/RTS!
    
    Clark

    OH!  SO YOU NEED A SPECIAL CABLE!
    
    Why did DEC do this, by the way, being non standard?  I know I have the
    printer set properly at XON/XOFF, 9600, 8N1, etc.  And it worked with
    the modem, so I figured there had to be a special problem.
    
    I'd like to take your word for it, but can you double check 2<->2,
    3<->3, and 7<->7?
    
    I'd appreciate it.
    
    Thanks,
    Mike

    You don't need a special cable, you need a null modem cable with pins
    2 and 3 reversed.  This is standard for all DEC serial printers, execpt
    the gender is different than most of DEC's previous printer.  
    
    Also make sure in preferences for printer that not only is the serial
    port set at the right speed etc. but that the printer is set to use the
    serial port rather than the parallel port.  

    I don't use any special cable on my LJ250.  In fact, since I don't have
    the likes of an A/B switch, I simply unplug the cable from the printer
    and into my modem without any setup/preferences changes at all.  My
    impression is that your problem lies elsewhere - most likely in the
    printer preferences.

    9600 baud, input buffer size 512 with Xon/Xoff.  No parity, eight bit,
    1 stop bit.  The printer is set to HP_PaintJet, port is serial (of
    course), single sheet, graphics are set to 4096 colors, Color,
    dithering is ordered, scaling = fraction, image = positive, aspect =
    horizontal, ignoring limits.   No color correction. No offset Smoothing
    is turned off.  Threshold = 7 and density = 1.
    
    Tony

    I read the request for settings before I realized all these replies
    were here.  The odd gender is Hewlett-Packard's fault.  The connection
    is a null modem type connection with the single exception that the
    printer end is male rather than female.  I use a male-to-male 25 pin
    flat ribbon cable that I had made up some time ago.  You can use a sex
    changer to do the same thing.
    
    Tony

Sorry to get picky (and for the sake of confusion) but a flat ribbon cable
is not a null modem cable.  

At a minnimum a null modem will cross pins 2 & 3.  If the cable 
is completly flat and no wires are crossed the pin 2 goes to 2 and 3 goes 
to 3.  Pin 2 is transmit, while pin 3 is receive data.    If you have a flat
cable the Amiga is transmitting on pin 2 and the printer is receiving on pin 2.


The term Null modem comes from the fact that you Nullify the need for a modem 
which traditionally crosses the transmit and receive.

BC22D  Two Female connectors Null modem cable.  Good for connecting the amiga to
another Amiga or other Computer.

Such as pin 1  ---- 1  Protective GRND
            3  ---- 2  Rec to Xmit
            2  ---- 3  Xmit to rec
            6  ---- 20 DSR cto DTR
           20  ---- 6  DTR to DSR
            7  ---- 7  Signal ground



A straight through cable is good for connecting an Amiga to a Modem.  Sounds 
like this is what you need.  

Such as BC22E  sixteen pin RS232 Male - Female connectors 
or  BC22F  25 pin Male - Female connector.


Alan
 

    I have an LJ250 at home on loan.  It's connected with a DECconnect
    cable and the appropiate ends.  I recommend getting the correct parts
    as follows:
    
    	H8571-E		Male DECconnect 25 pin EIA connector
    	H8571-A		Female DECconnect 25 pin EIA connector
    	and connected together with a length of DECconnect cable
    
    Cheers,
    
    ...Ed

    Sorry I didn't make myself clear.  I have a null modem cable AND a flat
    ribbon cable.  The flat cable is there simply to change the sex to
    properly join the LJ250.
    
    Tony

    Ok, I'm finaly back.  What I'm going to try then, is a cable with 2
    and 3 crossed.  If that doesn't work, then I'll try a cable with 2 to 2
    and 3 to 3.
    
    What I'm saying is, I am having trouble understanding why my regular
    serial cable (that goes to my Supra Modem 2400+) is not working, based
    on the replies here.
    
    For example, is the cable to a modem 2 to 2 and 3 to 3?  Or is it 2 and
    3 crossed?  And then, I'm assuming the cable to the LJ is opposite that
    cable, because I know this thing does not work right now.  But is WAS
    printing at work, and I'm sure my printer preferences are correct, and
    I'm sure that my CIA chip is fine because I'm writing this from home,
    etc.
    
    Could someone please tell me, exactly, what a normal serial cable is
    pinned, and then I can figure out what the other is (opposite) for my
    custom cable to the LJ?  I don't mean to sound unappreciative, I really
    do thank you guys, it's just that I didn't understand the different
    replies.
    
    Mike  

    
    	The cable from the serial to modem should be a modem cable
    
    	one end a 25-way D-type socket and the other end a mail with 
    	a stright through connection ( pins 1-1,2-2,3-3,4-4 etc)
    
    
    	A Null-Modem cable is one that has pins 1-1,2-3,3-2 etc
    
    	Hope this helps
    	Steve G

    re .34
    > I don't mean to sound unappreciative, I really do thank you 
    > guys, it's just that I didn't understand the different replies.
    
    I don't understand the different replies either.  My LJ250 definitely
    does NOT work with a modem cable (with the pins straight through). 
    Both at work connected to my DECstation 320 and at home with my Amiga
    2000 and Amiga 1000 it requires the use of a null modem cable with pins
    2 and 3 switched.  I have tried using just the modem cable (straight
    thru) and I get nothing.  
    
    Terry,
    

    RE: .35 .36
    
    Thank you!
    
    Mike

    The cable connecting printers to Amigas will have 2 and 3 crossed.  The
    only difference is that for the LJ250, the cable must have a male plug.
    The one you used for your modem does not have them crossed.
    
    I have a really nice little book which describes DTE (Data Terminal
    Equipment) and DCE (Data Communication Equipment) devices.  Briefly, a
    modem cable connects a DTE (a terminal or your Amiga) to a DCE (your
    modem).  At the other end of the phone line, the same scenario occurs. 
    Pins 2 and 3 are the transmission and receiving wires for the DTE. 
    From the point of view of the DTE, these pins always have the same
    functions.  When you remove the modems and connect two DTE's directly,
    the wires have to cross as "receive" on one end of the cable is
    "transmit" on the other.  Hence, the null modem cable's function.  Both
    the Amiga and the printer are considered DTE's.
    
    Tony