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| 818.1 | | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Thu Oct 15 1987 23:55 | 44 |
| Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!pyramid!oliveb!amiga!cbmvax!andy
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Trashcan work?
Posted: 13 Oct 87 16:37:02 GMT
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA
In article <5212@bbn.COM> cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) writes:
>I just got an A2000 and I've been playing with it some and I noticed
>that when I clicked on the Trashcan the >empty trash< menu item
>didn't become enabled.... hmmm... so I decided to delete the
>What's wrong? I don't think it is anything really dumb that I did, because
It doesn't work, because we goofed when making the 33.59 Workbench
disk. We put an icon of the wrong type as the trashcan.
The easy solution...Delete your trashcan.info file
(you did that already :-) ), from Workbench, initialize a new disk,
and copy the trashcan from the new disk back to your workbench.
(this will be an old style trashcan, though)
The other solution ... I'll post a uuencoded correct trashcan.info
icon, so your trashcan can still keep lookin' cool.
andy
>Thanks
> /Bernie\
>
>ps, I DID do a dumb thing, though, that I don't fully understand the
>ramifications of: by mistake (I was cleaning out icons I didn't want)
>I deleted the .info file for my WB disk. I didn't exactly know what
>to DO about that. How best to fix this little misstep? tnx /b\
Snapshot the drawer positions; Workbench will make a new .info file.
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andy finkel {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy
Commodore-Amiga, Inc.
"Interfere? Of course we'll interfere. Always do what you're best at,
I always say."
Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
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| 818.2 | the new trashcan | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Thu Oct 15 1987 23:56 | 54 |
| Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!pyramid!oliveb!amiga!cbmvax!andy
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Trashcan work?
Posted: 13 Oct 87 21:41:06 GMT
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA
In article <2480@cbmvax.UUCP> andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel) writes:
>In article <5212@bbn.COM> cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) writes:
>The other solution ... I'll post a uuencoded correct trashcan.info
And here it is: Cut off the stuff above, cut off the signature,
run through uudecode, and replace your Trashcan.info file with it.
---------------------CUT HERE ----------------------
begin 640 Trashcan.info
MXQ 0 !$@ [ #L 'P & , 0 !KG :\0
M !80 0 P ,VL +, >@$R $;__P
M " #_ !
M #L 'P " ,X< ,
M !55____@ *JJJ___
M !55?___@ "K____^ $#^ _!P BCBIRC !'.
M7G', (LXN<LP 1SEYQR CF+F.8 $69>99@ (YRSCF
M 1G'.<P "*<LXS $<QS', HS+,IP !%.9QF "(XG(
MX 4%0^'@ *J__X
M '__@ X '
M !______@ ?______@ #_______ /______\ ?______@ !____
M__^ #______P /______ ______\ #______P '_____^
M?_____X !______@ '_____^ /_____P ______ #_____\
M /_____P /_____^ '_______X '________@ '_______\ ____
M___ /__\ #L 'P " ,Z8 ,
M '__X _P ?P \ J^J!\ &%5>O508 )JJOJJY
M!_555^ #__X !55?___@ "K____^
M $#^ _!P BCBIRC !'.7G', (LXN<LP 1SEYQR CF
M+F.8 $69>99@ (YRSCF 1G'.<P "*<LXS $<QS',
M HS+,IP !%.9QF "(XG(X 4%0^'@ *J__X
M '__X _____P !______^ /_
M_____\ !_______X #_______ '______X !_____X !___
M '______X ?______@ !______^ #______P /______ ____
M__\ #______P '_____^ ?_____X !______@ '_____^
M/_____P ______ #_____\ /_____P /_____^ '_______X
I '________@ '_______\ _______ /__\ #_
end
---------------------CUT HERE ----------------------
--
andy finkel {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy
Commodore-Amiga, Inc.
"Interfere? Of course we'll interfere. Always do what you're best at,
I always say."
Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
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| 818.3 | ? | HYSTER::DEARBORN | Trouvez Mieux | Fri Oct 16 1987 02:16 | 6 |
| Does anyone ever use the Trashcan?
I never have.
Randy
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| 818.4 | | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Fri Oct 16 1987 03:02 | 6 |
| now that you mention it... i'm trying to test the new icon,
can't figure out how to get the "empty trash" menu item
to be unghosted so i can use it. Been spending too much time
in the CLI i guess :-)
-dave
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| 818.5 | Try throwing something away !! | DDMAIL::ANDREWS | Just living a life of illusion | Fri Oct 16 1987 05:36 | 5 |
| -dave,
Try moving a spare file from your workbench into the trashcan, then
look. Empty Trash should now be normal text.
Rob
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| 818.6 | select it | CIMNET::KYZIVAT | Paul Kyzivat | Fri Oct 16 1987 11:34 | 8 |
| The trash icon has to be selected for EMPTY TRASH to be unghosted.
I use the trashcan sometimes. I do find the workbench interface convenient for
casual use. Unfortunately it never seems complete - the CLI always seems to be
needed for something. I wish it would be made more complete. As things stand I
am always having to do the CLI stuff for my family.
Paul
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| 818.7 | | LEDS::ACCIARDI | | Fri Oct 16 1987 12:17 | 5 |
| I like the visual appeal of the Workbench, and my wife won't touch
the CLI, but it is very easy to open a new CLI, with CONMAN active,
from the startup-sequence. I now have a Workbench screen with a
tiny CLI ready for action, tucked away in the corner.
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| 818.8 | No problem for me... | MAADIS::WICKERT | MAA DIS Consultant | Fri Oct 16 1987 13:00 | 8 |
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I have an A500 and have used the trashcan to delete stuff. I've
never had a problem. I'll check the version when I get home tonight
- it's only 2 months old so maybe I managed to get an updated disk
or something...
-Ray
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| 818.9 | do you have the fancy icons? | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Fri Oct 16 1987 15:01 | 15 |
| It worked!
case 1: select trashcan icon that came with my A2000 WB
menu item "empty trash" is ghosted
menu item "discard" is not ghosted
so.... tried discard, that deleted the trashcan and
it's directory.
case 2: selected the fixed trashcan icon
menu item "empty trash" in not ghosted
menu item "discard" is ghosted
so.... tried empty trash, that deleted the contents of
the trashcan directory, just like it says in the manual.
-dave
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| 818.10 | | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Sun Oct 18 1987 05:28 | 8 |
| The KS/WB disks that came with my 2000 (bought last wed) were
black disks. The WB version is 33.59. I've seen a 500/2000
WB with a version 33.56 that has normal icons, 33.59 has the
fancy icons from the public domain disks (trashcan lid opens,
drawers open, disk icon is black with amiga checkmark). Looks
really nice.
-dave
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| 818.11 | | VIDEO::LEIBOW | | Sun Oct 18 1987 07:13 | 5 |
| Hmmm. Will the new Workbench disks (33.59) work on Amiga 1000's?
I've got workbench 33.47. Maybe there have been some improvements...
--Mike
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| 818.12 | | LEDS::ACCIARDI | | Sun Oct 18 1987 10:32 | 11 |
| I think the major difference between the A500/A2000 and the A1000
WB disks is in the startup-sequence. The new versions check for
the presence of the battery clock. If no clock is present, the
system is loaded normally.
A note went out on Usenet a while back relating to some very minor
changes in the new Workbench files. Most of the printer drivers
are a few bytes shorter.
I can get a new WB and try it on my A1000. I'm curious too.
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| 818.13 | arrrgggghhh\ | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Mon Oct 19 1987 20:35 | 12 |
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The original fancy trashcan and the new improved trashcan both have
problems when you "Initialize" a disk from the Workbench. That
puts a Trashcan icon and directory on the new disk, but the icon
is truncated down to 650 bytes. It only highlights, doesn't open
the lid, when you select it. The workaround is to copy the .info
to it using the CLI.
Any pointers to info on the format of the .info file? Is there
some known bug that is doing this?
-dave
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| 818.14 | Format program screws up | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Mon Oct 19 1987 22:25 | 35 |
| Re: .13
> Any pointers to info on the format of the .info file? Is there
> some known bug that is doing this?
The format of the .info file isn't documented, and shouldn't be. If
you use the routines GetDiskObject and PutDiskObject, you never need
know how icons are stored. To do anything else is very evil. For
information on icons, read the chapter on the Workbench in the Libraries
and Devices volume of the Rom Kernel Manual.
I suspect that the reason that the trashcan written on the new disk
when you format it is ugly is due poor programming in the format program.
The format program tries to duplicate the image of the Trashcan icon from
SYS: if it can find it. If it cannot find it, it creates a default icon
(the old Amiga 1000 1.2 Trashcan).
I suspect that the way the code is written is:
Do a get disk object to read the icon from SYS:.
If you find it, copy the pointer for the unselected image into
the default trashcan icon. Copy some other stuff (but not enough)
from the SYS: icon to the default icon.
Do a put disk object to write out the munged icon.
Looks to be that the broken ugly trashcan icon written by format
is missing some rows of data and that the gadget highlighting method
and alternate image was not copied.
Personally, I blew away the fancy Amiga 2000 icon and use the old
Amiga 1000 icon. It looks better than the result from the formatting
program.
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