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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

683.0. "Incompatible software (68010,68020)" by WINERY::COLLUM () Tue Sep 01 1987 15:53

    I have a 68010 in my A1000.  Very few title run into compatibility
    problems, but there are a few.  If you know of any others than these,
    please post them here. It may save someone from buying a disk and
    not being unable to use it. So far its been only games.
    
    	Hacker I
    
    	Barbarian
    
    I've talked to the Activision people, but have been unable to get
    in touch with Psygnosis in England.
    
    					Jim
    
    
    
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683.1Take DECIGEL for fast relief!LEDS::ACCIARDITue Sep 01 1987 17:4718
    In addition to the titles you mentioned, Transformer will not work
    properly either.   TextCraft Plus is another offender (I have a
    bootleg beta copy, but I don't think its released yet). 
    
    The offending programs use a 68000-specific instruction called 'MOVE
    SR' or some such.  I don't know assembler from Sanskrit.
    
    Fortunately, there is a fix.  DECIGEL is a very small routine that
    should be placed in the first line of the startup-sequence on the
    offending program.  It invokes some sort of trap that converts the
    offensive code into something the 68010/68020 can understand.
                                                            
    I think most of the offensive titles have come from England.  It
    could be that the problem is a case of ST-port-itis.
    
    Anyway, I have an archive somewhere that is a collection of all 68010
    related documents, including DECIGEL, and some 68010 notes.  If
    you like, I'll upload it here.  It is fairly small.
683.2textcraft + has been releasedWINERY::COLLUMTue Sep 01 1987 17:597
    Upload! After buying Barbarian and finding it doesn't work, I sent
    Psygnosis a nasty-gram about programming standards. No word from
    them.  I don't recall at the moment how it starts up, but anythings
    worth a try ($30 is a lot to pay for a scratch disk.)
    
    						Jim
    
683.3True Basic, probablyNAC::PLOUFFTue Sep 01 1987 19:057
    I think that when True Basic gave a talk at the Boston Computer
    Society, they mentioned that their product was incompatible with
    the 68010/020.  Given that TB interprets an intermediate
    processor-independent language when executing programs, it makes
    sense that they would twiddle the condition codes a lot.
    
    --Wes Plouff
683.4BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonTue Sep 01 1987 21:0911
    re: .2
    
    The folks who did Barbarian like custom boot disk formatting, i.e, no
    Amigados, no startup-sequence, etc.  So starting some other program
    before it could very tricky.  The ks/wb 1.2 OS has something to
    handle the 68010, but since Barbarian needs 1.2 that looks like
    either it's insufficient to handle it or the fix is in the Wb
    code.
    
    -dave
         
683.5Need DeciGelPUERTO::ALVAREZMiguel,from sunny Puerto RicoMon Nov 23 1987 10:578
    Ed,
    	Do you still have Decigel ? Since you moved, the location mentioned
    here is no longer valid. If not, could somebody please upload it
    so I can copy it ?
    
    Thanks for your help.
    
    Miguel A. Alvarez
683.6Done!LEDS::ACCIARDIMon Nov 23 1987 11:079
    Sure, I'll upload a file called '68010.arc'.  It is a collection
    of notes, hints, tips, etc. on using the 68010.
    
    My new net address is LEDS3::USER6:[ACCIARDI.AMIGA]
    
    Check in tomorrow.
    
    Ed.
    
683.7RoadwarWINERY::COLLUMThu May 26 1988 22:157
    Another winner... Roadwars from Mastertronic/Arcadia (marketed by
    EA) will not run on anything other than a 68000. After talking with
    them, their attitude was...it works on a 68000... not our problem.
    Not a very marketable attitude with the new 68020/30 amigas rumored.
    
    					Jim