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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
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418.0. "MANX - but I've already paid!" by SZOFNA::CBODINE (Every where you go there you are) Mon Mar 30 1987 16:53

    I have the Manx compiler (v3.2a, Developers). It originally cost
    $299. Now they have version 3.4oa out that has the utilities that
    used to be exclusive to the Commercial system (MAKE, DIFF, Z, etc.)
    
    I called Manx and they told me that I could get the new Developers
    package for a $50 additional charge (this would include the extra
    utilities). Or I could just send them my disks and they would give
    me what I already have, but that it will work with v1.2 WB.
    
    1) are the extra utilities worth the extra $50?
    2) is Z a good editor?
    3) why should they charge me $50 more? Haven't I already paid the
    full price of the Developers package($299).
    
    Thanks for your responses
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418.1Life with MANXBIZET::TENNYDave TennyMon Mar 30 1987 18:2549
>    I have the Manx compiler (v3.2a, Developers). It originally cost
>    $299. Now they have version 3.4oa out that has the utilities that
>    used to be exclusive to the Commercial system (MAKE, DIFF, Z, etc.)
>    I called Manx and they told me that I could get the new Developers
>    package for a $50 additional charge (this would include the extra
>    utilities). Or I could just send them my disks and they would give
>    me what I already have, but that it will work with v1.2 WB.

 I *think* MANX's marketing policy changed at some point regarding
 tools which were distributed with the developer version.

 When I bought my Developer's kit, I didn't receive ORD, VI, DIFF(?)
 and other things in the full commercial kit.  I think that now they
 market more with the developer package.  Can anyone verify this?

 Anyway, clearly, if this is true, you and I got the short end of the
 deal.  But leave it to Manx to try to get you to pay more money
 for what other people get for free now.  I wouldn't put it past them.

 I bought their compiler because at the time it was the superior
 C compiler.  That distinction is fading, although the environment
 they provide is still nicer than lattice.  But in my dealings with them
 I have formed a somewhat bad opinion of them.  For instance,
 to use LB in any useful way, you really need ORD.  Particularly on
 a 512k system  where you may not have the ram for libraries and disk access
 is so slow.  Oh well, enough.  On to the questions:

    
>    1) are the extra utilities worth the extra $50?

  If you have been making do without them, why bother paying more.
  If something like ORD or MAKE would make you life easier, then
  it's always worth a little more money.

>    2) is Z a good editor?

  Nothing spectacular.  Useful, especially if CTAGS is implemented.
  But I prefer EMACS.  Which is also found on more machines and costs nothing.

>    3) why should they charge me $50 more? Haven't I already paid the
>    full price of the Developers package($299).

  See above ramblings.  Anyone out there KNOW this stuff?
    
>    Thanks for your responses

  Ditto.

	Dave