Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    Can it be played back by any other means? (Do I have to have deLuxe
    Music)?
    

    Unfortunately, you must have DMCS, since EA has not released a 'Player
    Only' program, like DVideo and Aegis Animator.
    
    It can be saved as a .SMUS (Simple MUsical Score) file, for use with
    Instant Music and DVideo, but it sounds like garbage with those
    programs.  The .SMUS version gets trimmed from 100K to 24K, and you
    lose all the good instruments.
     
    

    Yes, please put it on the net for us DMCS-ers.
    
    thanks,
    jim

    Please post it, since my addition of a new CD player this Xmas one
    of my first CD's was 1812 Overture with DIGITAL cannons.  Would
    love to compare the results...
    
    -drew

    I think you'll be disappointed by the cannons, since they are not
    digitized, but sound like low frequency noise.  In fact, I got them
    to sound a bit better by changing the cannon notes from stacatto
    to legatto.
    
    Where this version really sounds good is in the strings and trumpet
    sections.  Unfortunately, DMCS does not allow semi-analog control
    of the ASDR envelopes, as does Musicraft, so some of the notes begin
    and end kind of abruptly.
    
    All in all, though, it is a great achievement, in my opinion.  I'll
    post it tonight to JAKE::USER2:[ACCIARDI.AMIGA]1812.arc.
    

    1812.ARC can now be downloaded from ...
    
    JAKE::USER2:[ACCIARDI.AMIGA]
    
    If you encounter any file protection violations, (you shouldn't),
    E-mail me at JAKE::ACCIARDI.
    
    Enjoy!
    
    Ed Acciardi
    
    PS:  Any other DMCS goodies I find will also be posted here...
    

    Anybody still have this on the ENET?
    
    -Larry

    I took a peak at cesare::sys$user0:[zabot.ledump] but did not find
    all that you mentioned in notes 328.8.  I wuold like to get a copy
    of the 1812 overture.

    SysMngrs are always begging to have blocks back !! I will reload
    it in a few days. I will post a note to let you know when it's ready.
    Ciao

    Thanks, I'll watch for your note.

    Available now under:
    
    cesare""::sys$user0:[ledump.1812]*.
    
    contains 1812Over ( 1812.) and some instruments ( cannon. ,lowstrings.
    and accordion. ). Copy instrs to directory removing trailing dot.
    same for 1812.
    Enjoy.

    
    Is there a PD "player" that this can be played with or is it still
    DMCS only?  (I know this was asked before but I thought maybe one
    had been developed in the past several months.)
    
    - steve mcafee

    The IFF standard that DMCS uses is internal-only and unpublished.
    
    Unless EA decides to release it (hah!), the only hope is for 
    someone with a *LOT* of time on his hands (you listening, 
    Bryce? :^) decides to reverse engineer it. Not too likely...
    
    I know I can't recommend piracy on this forum, and as a matter
    of fact in general I am against piracy. However, in this
    particular case where the choices the company gives you are
    to buy a $75+ package to just listen to some tunes or not to
    listen to them, seems the choice is pretty obvious. Would you
    buy Dpaint II just to view all the PD prettypictures? No, and
    that's why there are cheap (usually free) viewers. Until EA 
    realizes that not all people are composers, and some just like
    to watch their machine crank out tunes, there are going to be
    a great many illicit copies of DMCS out there.
    
    My views are my own, and in no way represent those of anybody
    I work for, by the way. (Just in case this is necessary)
    
    Flames to /dev/null please.
    
    .Ed

    Actually, I believe there is a PD SMUS player out there.  DMCS will
    allow you to save any score as an SMUS file, which SONIX will glady
    work with.  However, the SMUS save that DMCS does truncates all
    instruments over 24K long.  In other words, it throws them away.
    
    I saved the 1812 Overture as an SMUS file, and played it back thru
    SONIX, and it sounded like a C '64 with a bad cold.
    
    Incidently, DMCS will only work with it's own instruments, all of
    which are digitized, and many of which are over 24K.  
    
    

Re: .14

>    I know I can't recommend piracy on this forum

I don't think anyone should take your suggestion as piracy.  There is
a difference in stealing someone's copyrighted code and decoding a file
format.

DMCS files are IFF files, they just include undocumented hunks.  I bet
that won't frustrate the Amiga community for very long.

    re:.15
    dmcs will work fine with any standard iff instrument.  I have made
    some (pretty crummy ones, but they work) from the sounds on the
    PD disk (demo disk)...All I did was convert them to iff.  But there
    may be large instruments that only work well in dmcs.
    
    I think the smus problem is that dmcs only converts the song to
    a simple 4 track song, with one note per stave.  dmcs is far more
    flexable in aranging the choice of instruments, staves, etc.

    How did you convert an SMUS instrument to work with DMCS?  I tried
    copying a SONIX instrument to my DMCS drawer, and oved the suffix,
    but I got nothing.  
    
    Is there a PD conversion utility?  I'd love to use some of SONIX's
    instruments in DMCS.
    
    

    I didn't do anything fancy, just followed the IFF docs and specs
    for an 8cvs (or something like that...don't have the docs handy,
    but that is a long story)  Just follow the iff format.  I thought
    smus followed it, but don't know about sonix.  Since all I use is
    dmcs, I really can't say.   (be happy to talk more on this off-line
    (in fact, I have some other questions for you...be gone next week,
    but after that???...Are you in shr??  drop me an e-mail...thanks)
    
    scott

    Would you mind arcing the 1812 overture?

    Done! You'll find two files:
    1812.vax = arched version stream-mode
    1812.amg = arched versione max 510 bytes per block 
    arc on Amiga want 1812.amg
    
    Once again the directory is: cesare::sys$user0:[zabot.ledump.1812]
    ciao.