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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

216.0. "Page Setter" by HYSTER::DEARBORN (Trouvez Mieux) Mon Dec 15 1986 12:10

    Just picked this up from the Memory Location of Saturday.  It is
    quite nice.  I haven't had much experience with this type of package
    so it is difficult to compare.
    
    I am using the Zuma Fonts along with the standard system ones. 
    The package is easy to use.  It uses standard pull down menues and
    has a screen display similar to DeluxePaint with a menu bar hanging
    down the right side of the screen.  You can create multiple page
    documents.  There is a built in graphics editor.
    
    The only problem I've found is trying to get used to the aspect
    ratio of the screen.  When using the graphics editor, it is difficult
    to tell just how large your graphic will be when it is printed out.
    
    There is so much to describe that it is difficult to put into words
    here.
    
    If you are looking for a page layout system that allows you to mix
    text and graphics (importing text from Textcraft, Scribble or other
    word processors, or using the built in text editor) in WYSIWYG style,
    this is it.
    
    Randy
    
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216.1more infoHAZEL::MELLITZMon Dec 15 1986 12:595
    What does Page Setter go for ($)?  How are the Zuma Fonts? Do
    they work in High Res mode better that the workbench ones?
    Do they have large pitchs 20 to 40 point?

    ... Rich
216.2Great ProgramELWOOD::PETERSMon Dec 15 1986 13:309
    	I also picked up a copy of pagesetter. It cost about $150.
    The program seems to work very well. It supports the clipboard.
    But I have had trouble printing. It seems that the printdriver
    for my Canon-1080A puts in a blank line when a reset esc sequence
    is sent. I modified the driver and all seems well.
    
    	Steve
    
216.3HYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxMon Dec 15 1986 13:3213
    $149.
    
    The Zuma Fonts are pretty good.  They have sizes up to about 72
    point.  They aren't perfect tho.  Occasionally (not very often)
    they cause problems with some packages.  DeluxeVideo seems to have
    problems with the larger point sizes.  Some times they act like
    they aren't there. 
                                           
    The Hi-Res fonts are quite good.  However, when using DeluxePaint
    in Hi-Res, there often isn't enough memory to use them, unless you
    use less colors in the palette.        
                                           
    They work beautifully with Page Setter.
216.4I found itHYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxTue Dec 16 1986 12:495
    Last night I found a way to check the size of graphics in the graphics
    editor.  You can turn on a coordinates readout.  It would be nice
    if you could turn on a reference grid like the one in the page layout
    editor.  It would make 'eyeballing' easier.
    
216.5Great ProgramAUTHOR::MACDONALDCUP/MLFri Dec 19 1986 17:392
    Page Setter has received rave reviews and is considered a far better
    product than the Brown-Waugh electronic publishing system.
216.6More fast memHYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxFri Dec 19 1986 21:185
    I just got a Starboard 2 memory upgrade.  Pagesetter runs faster
    with it.  I can even save documents to RAM: now.  WOW!
    
    Randy
    
216.7Pagesetter ProblemsAUTHOR::MACDONALDCUP/MLMon Dec 22 1986 00:4921
    Help needed with Pagesetter ....
    
    When I print using V1.2 Kickstart and the Pagesetter diskette for
    Workbench, pages print okay on my Epson. When I try printing while
    running Pagesetter off the V1.2 Workbench, I get a dastardly narrow
    blank line across the entire page about every 10 lines or so. It
    appears to coincide with the length of the printer buffer to. Again,
    it only seems to happen using V1.2 Workbench. The release note on
    Page 8 of the V1.2 Release Notes about Epson and other dot matrix
    printers does not work - it only makes it much worse.
    
    The print that comes off the Canon PJ1080A is almost illegible and
    not the same point sizes as the Epson. I thought graphic output
    was all alike. Plus the Canon leaves about a 1/2" of blank space
    at about the same spot in the output as the Epson does when it is
    printing under V1.2.
    
    Any help??
    
    Paul
   
216.8White line feverHYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxMon Dec 22 1986 11:575
    I had the same "white line" problem with my Juki printer.  I eliminated
    it by swithching the printer from pin feed to "roller feed".  It
    seems that the holes in the paper do not provide an accurate paper
    advance.
    
216.9Not The Pin RollerAUTHOR::MACDONALDCUP/MLMon Dec 22 1986 12:1414
    These lines do not appear to be related to the pin roller since
    it only happens when running the Program under V1.2 of Workbench,
    not under V1.1 (which is what is on the Pagesetter diskette).
    
    It happens about every 10 lines which coincides with buffer reloading
    on the Epson. I even copied the Pagesetter disk's Epson print driver
    over to my V1.2 diskette, but the same thing happened. Very unusual
    to say the least.
    
    I would rather run the program off my V1.2 Workbench. I sent a letter
    to Gold Disk today along with several sheets of output describing
    the problem.
    
    Paul
216.10Pagesetter Wb V1.2 Printing FixAUTHOR::MACDONALDCUP/MLTue Dec 23 1986 13:3110
    The problem with printing documents from the Pagesetter program
    using the Press option while under V1.2 Workbench is a known bug.
    However, it is not Gold Disk's bug, but rather Commodore's bug.
    The people at Gold Disk have indicated that Commodore has admitted
    to a "stupid mistake."
    
    The folks at Gold Disk say that using the Pageprinter utility will
    avoid the problem. Apparently, when the buffer clears, it produces
    a linefeed. Even though its a micro linefeed 7/72", it sticks out
    like a sore thumb. It doesn't happen in Workbench V1.1 though.
216.11More...HYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxThu Dec 25 1986 21:3918
    I did a little printout testing last night.  Yep, when you use the
    PagePrint Utility, everything prints out beautifully.  I also noticed
    that in the 1.2 Enhancer notes, they point out that some Epson
    compatible printers may have fine white lines during printouts of
    graphics.  They suggest setting the page size requestor in Preferences
    to custom.  I tried this too.  It gets rid of the white lines, but
    now creates a slight overlap of each line.
    
    Stick to PagePrint for your final copies, and everything will be
    fine.  You can even print one while you work on another.  Ah,
    multi-tasking.
    
    Here's another tip I just figured out too.  Don't like the default
    colors of the program?  Go into preferences while it is running,
    then select USE.  Now you will get the workbench colors.  
    
    Randy
    
216.12French letters supportBALZAC::TRADUCTIONThu Jan 29 1987 12:155
216.13Should work.ELWOOD::PETERSThu Jan 29 1987 13:5610
    
    	PAGESETTER can do it, but it would take some work. Pagesetter
    uses the standard AMIGA fonts. If you had a font set with the
    accentuated lettes Pagesetter would be happy to use them. Pagesetter
    also comes with a very small word processer that could use them.
    I used one of the public domain font editors to make some special
    math symbols and some Greek letters for a report and it worked well.
    
    		Steve Peters