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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

170.0. "DEV CONF - GOOD NEWS/BAD NEWS??!!" by KAOM03::GOSLING () Wed Nov 12 1986 14:44

       As this was on the usenet this morning, I won't copy in its'
       entirety.  The section I have included sounds like a good news/bad
       news scenerio.  Anyone have any idea what the hardware issues
       are??

       Art

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>Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga
>Path: decwrl!hplabs!sdcrdcf!usc-oberon!bacall!papa
>Subject: 2nd Annual Developer's Conference (quick report)
>Posted: 9 Nov 86 07:50:28 GMT
>Organization: CS&CE Depts, U.S.C., Los Angeles, CA
 
>I just came back this morning from the 2nd Annual Developer's Conference
>held in Monterey, CA (nov. 5-7).  Well , it was great.  As everybody else
>I signed non-disclosure, so I'll comment only on stuff that is public record.
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>All, in all software developers were pretty enthusiastic, while that was
>not the case for the hardware developers for reasons that will become
>apparent in the future.
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>-- Marco Papa
>   Felsina Software
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170.1HYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxWed Nov 12 1986 15:153
    He also mentioned that Live! will never be produced.  Wonder what's
    up....
    
170.2BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonWed Nov 12 1986 20:3210
    sounds interesting, that kind of news should stir up USENET for
    at least a couple weeks.  Sounds like either internal slots in future
    machines (easier for Commodore to do now that the Zorro specs are
    defined and 1.2 almost ready to ship) OR no expansion bus on future
    machines.  Either way will make for great pro/con arguments.
    
    Glad they kept at least the software developers happy (even the
    base system hardware isn't much fun without software).
    
    -dave
170.3New High-end Amigas?TLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersWed Nov 12 1986 21:4311
I took the crack about live! as just being a sarcastic remark, not a
statement of fact.  Commodore hasn't to my knowledge announced the
demise of live!.

As to the hardware developers, I side with Dave in .2.  There are very
strong rumors of the next generation of Amiga hardware coming out in
the course of the next year.  I wouldn't be surprised if the new Amigas
came with expansion slots, much more memory, battery backedup clocks, etc.

Remember that the Usenet reporter was very upbeat.  He probably was told
of an expansion of the Amiga family rather than anything negative.
170.4....JOKE::ACCIARDIWed Nov 12 1986 23:1711
    I had heard from John Foust of Amazing Computing that future Amigas
    would have 2 megs of memory available to the custom chips.  The
    bad part was that Amiga 1000 owners would never be able to access
    that extra memory, since the lines do not exist on the 1000
    motherboard. 
    
    This could be construed as bad news.   Or old news.  Everything
    that I have read or heard points to the Amiga 2500 having a hard
    disk, lots of ram, and an 8088/80286 on board.  This puts the squeeze
    on the third-party developers, since the machine is rather complete,
    no?
170.5BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonThu Nov 13 1986 15:109
    re: .4  never say never... its just a hardware problem.  If Amiga
    doesn't provide an upgrade to the new chips, some third party or
    user group will kludge some way to do it.
    
    I'm curious how they are going to keep 3 hardware product lines
    going - 64C/128, AMIGA, PC.  I'd love to have the AMIGA integrate
    them by having emulators for the C64/128 and the PC.
    
    -Dave
170.6$$$AUTHOR::MACDONALDCUP/MLThu Nov 13 1986 18:282
    Such configurations will surely cost more than what you are now
    using!