Conference 7.286::sports_91

    Re-announce of this one, too.
    
    Feb 10 at the Hartford Civic Center, Whalers v. Blackhawks.  At
    least one team is pretty good :-).  It's a Sunday.
    
    Tix are $15 bucks.  Checks will be due to me within the next two
    weeks.  (Yes, I've double-checked the price.)  So far, we've got
    a grand total of 5 folks coming.  I'd love to see more of you there.
    Mail goes to ISLNDS::WASKOM for inclusion in this note-worthy event.
    
    A&W

    Any 'o u MASS noters wanna get together for Happy Hour on Friday? I
    will be in MASS for the weekend.

    Tigers play at Fenway July 4th weekend and first week of October.
    Any alternate games yous guys/gals would like to attend (won't
    be here for Pat's day...)

Well, a SPORTS Get Together took place last evening, when 
Dan Schneider was in Connecticut for work.

Dan and I got together in the early evening, had some dinner, swapped
a lot of DEC stories (and believe me, if you wanna hear some good
DEC stories, talk to Dan!), and then out for some TALC.

While not quite as fine as Dan'l's establishment, Dan and I attended
Uncle Al's.

The evening was off to a great start when we ordered beer.  The waitress,
who was really cute, but had that blank "I did too much LSD as a kid" 
look, couldn't bring our beers right away because "she didn't have
enough money".  Dan and I looked at each other, and Dan asked me
if the concept of buying beer had changed -- after all, weren't we
supposed to give HER money in exchange for beer?

From that point on the evening progressed exponentially.  One of the,
uh, entertainers, was really hilarious.  She had this giddy laugh/giggle
and by the end of the evening, just hearing that giggle would set Dan
and I off in fits of laughter.  

Between watching the ladies, and the other patrons who came in (one
of who was the spitting image of Tariq Asiz/Larry Tate) it was
a rip roaring hilarious evening.

I'd tell more here, but Dan and I need to save some stories for 
the Manis(tm).....

But, I can say "Bo knows"....right Dan?

'Saw

When's the big Charlotte All Star Weekend bash going to be held that was
hinted at in the previous version of the notesfile?   I remember someone
mentioning a possible get together for those of us who aren't in the 
East Coast CJ Corridor.

    Hey, I'm up for anything.  The cheaper the thrills, the better.  We'll
    try and round up some of the boys and see what we can do.
    
    Bob Hunt

    Re: " Hey, I'm up for anything".....
    
 	Obviously a statement from a young'n....
    
    Kev  ;^)
    
    

    I'm in MKO tday and tomorrow, and in Littleton (simon tuttle) on Wed
    and Thurs - anyone wanna get together?
    
    JD

    Sure.  Except for Tuesday, I have nothing planned any night this week.
    
    John

    How's Thursday night sound???  ANyone wanna get together somewhere to
    do something?  Any games on TV? 
    
    I'll be at the Beanpot tonight, hopefully watching a HUGE upset..
    
    JD

    Couple of choices, JD.  Da Broons host Calgary while the Holy Green
    Sweatsocks are down in the Big Apple.
    
    Hope you see the upset tonight.  Huskies are bad dogs this year.
    
    John

    Keep me posted on Thursday...
    
    Clyde

    I could make it on Thursday.
    
    A&W

    Hey folks, there's a SERIOUS problem brewing.....
    
    JD vs. Rugby meeting - both are Thursday.....?????
    
    (probably won't matter, probably SO won't let me go to either :*(
    
    Kev
    

    Well, It sounds like theres two good games on - Brrons/Flames and
    Celts/Knicks.  I'd be into watching either, with the Knicks my firsted
    choice.
    
    Any suggestions for a central meeting point???
    
    JD

    Yeah sure JD, you prefer the Knicks??  We know you really want to see
    the Bruins/Flames game so you can watch your idol, Cam Neely!  ;-)

    Figure out a place central to most folks.  I know Hawk and those guys
    went to some Holiday Inn or sumthang when JaKe was up thisa way.
    
    I'll travel.
    
    JD

	I got a call from JoJ last night.  He's in Boston until Friday
and wants to join this shindig Thursday night.  I'm meeting him in
Maynard around 5:30 Thursday afternoon.  He doesn't have access to
a DTN or terminal so I'll be talking to him Wednesday night.  He's
looking for someone to join him at the Banana either tonight or
Wednesday night.  I can't make it, but he's staying at the Weston in Copley 
Square if someone wants to go to the "Marina" with him...

				/Don

    Options:
    
    Sports Depot - Allston
    Stadium Club - Framingham
    Ground Round - Chelmsford 
    Sit n Bull - Maynard
    
    
    define "Central"  (495, 128, Maynard vs. NH/Hawk?)
    

    I'd lean towards Chelmsford and Maynard.
    
    I know /Don and JOJ will be in Maynard, and Walt works in PK (or at
    least he used too...).  Only other folks I know of are Chuck Santos,
    A&W (don't know what is close to her) and John Hendry.
    
    JD

    Maynard is closer for me to go *home* than Chelmsford, but either
    one is good by me.  Skip Alston, please -- I don't drive inside 128
    if I can possibly avoid it :-)  [Actually, I only do inside 128
    for Sox games using the T, and rugby.]
    
    A&W

  Maynard I'm in anywhere else I'm out...

    WELL, I THINK THAT ABOUT SETTLES IT.  HOW BOUT MAYNARD FOLKS.  THURSDAY 
    AFTER WORK SOMETIME.  SOUND GOOD??
    
    JD

    Used to be in Maynard, now in Westford.
    
    Where?  The Bull?

    It was great seeing most of you Colorado SPORTSters again.  In the same
    fashion that Lufay recruited all the Broons fans, I recruited a platoon
    of Suns fans.  
    
    Keep the faith guys!  Til next time, GO SUNS!
    
    Mike

    
    	What'd you bribe Devil Dawg with to make him a Suns fan?  A
    	new pair of silky pink soccer shorts? ;^)
    
    	Claybroon

    So is it tomorrow night, at the sitting null??  I'll be there at about
    5:30 or so.
    JD

    	I'll be there at 5:30 too and I'll bring that Cam Neely shirt
    you wanted JD.  The size is XXXL to fit over those bulging lats.
    
    				/Don

JD,

You gonna be back in time for the celts-supes gmae on tuesday?


Metz

    I'll be there right after work tomorrow but I don't know how late I'll
    stay.  It'll be nice to see everyone.
    
    Ninj

    I know this is stupid but.......
    
    Can anyone send me directions to this fine establishment?  
    
    And will I need to have one of you guys acting as an escort as I
    come through the door?  :-)
    
    A&W

    Metz,
    
    Yep, I'll be at theSupes/Celts game.  Caint wait to see Olden clean
    Parrish's clock ;-)
    
    A&W,
    
    If you know how to get to the mill, you can get to the Sitting BUll.
    But someone else cain provide directions.
    See y'all tonight.
    
    JD

    Where are you coming from.....Its not that hard a place to find, if
    you go by Digital headquaters (the mill) and the mill is on your left
    your going to go by a Gas station on your right and its the 2nd
    building after the gas station on your right....Dont park out back your
    better off parking out front.  If your coming in the other way (from
    stow) as you approach Digital youll have there parking lot on your
    right and the BUll is on your left as you approach the entrance to the
    mill.....Its a great little establishment and thursday night is usally
    pretty packed...I myself prefer to go on monday's, less people and
    after the pool league finishes shooting its open table and you can play
    for free untill closing....
    				Untill_2_yrs_ago_lifetime_maynard_resident
    							M_Air_Brooks

    Thanks, guys.  See ya there.
    
    A&W

    	Bucky B. There tomorrow too.  I'll be there between 5:30-6:00.
    
    				/Don

    I'm on my way to the Bull!!!!
    
    Dammgladtomeetcha!!!!!
    
    Kev
    

    Why Bucky B there today?
    
    What did I miss at Amory's?  I thought it might be too docker-like
    for the Slasher....
    
    -Walt

    Looks like I'll be back easted teh firsted week in May - May 5th week.
    Are the Sox in town then???  I'd love to go to Fenway again.
    
    JD

How about at the end of june through the first week in July ?

June 29 through July 7th to be exact....

Gotta get my fenway fix once this year....


 Metz

    Anyone into a game on the 9th???  
    
    JD

    Tigers are in town July 4th weekend...

June 29 through July 7th to be exact....

Sat June 29     at Baltimore
Sun June 30     at Baltimore
Mon July 01     at Milwaukee
Tue July 02     at Milwaukee
Wed July 03     at Milwaukee
Thu July 04        Detroit
Fri July 05        Detroit
Sat July 06        Detroit
Sun July 07        Detroit
Mon July 08     All Star Break 

    Any SPORTSters in the Big Apple?  I will probably be there on a
    customer visit (near the UN) Tuesday-Thursday.  
    
    	--dan'l

    OK, so none of you live in New York City (or else kept quiet about it
    when I told you I'd be there).  I had a great time anyway.  The DEC
    office there is right next to the Gahdahn.
    
    Tuesday night I saw the Knicks and the Hawks.  Walked right in and got
    a seat on the floor.  That was so strange after living in Charlotte
    where tickets are hard to comeby.  M.C. Hammer was sitting so close to
    me I could have spit on him...but he had these big ol' body guards so I
    didn't.  Ewing and 'Nique had some great dunks right in front of me.
    
    Wednesday night I took in Syracuse and St. Johns.  Great game.  Much
    better crowd...and many cuter womens.
    
    The Gahdahn calls itself the world's most famouse sports arena.  What a
    joke.  It doesn't even have reply screens.  Just these signs on the
    scoreboard that say "coming next season: Gardenvision."  What about
    this season?
    
    	--dan'l

    Okay, who's organizing Red_Sox/Tigermania V?
    
    Mark_who_organized_RS/T IV

    Gotta find another team unless is July 4th weekend or the last week of
    the season.
    
    Walt (organizer of T-II)
    

    Well, Riggen must still be in shock, so it's up to me to tell you about
    the most excellent get together(s) of the past week...starting with a
    most manly story:
    
    I flew into Denver last Saturday. Rented a truly rugged Pontiac Grand
    Am, and drove to Colorado Springs. I called Riggen, and we made plans
    to go skiing the nexted day at Breckenridge. 
    
    The day started out just fine...I picked up Jeff at 6:30 JoJ_Time
    (which is 6:40 for everyone else) and we headed up Route 24 towards 
    the mountains. Our first stop was at Hills Mountain Shadows Inn, where
    we each had a 14" diameter pancake. (Tangent: Hills is a most excellent
    little restauraunch where you eat one very large pancake and wash it
    down with OJ from a plastic cup that still tastes and smells of whiskey
    from the previous night's bar crowd....end_Tangent)
    
    After wolfing down at least 75% of this steering wheel sized pancake,
    we were on the road again heading toward Summit County. The snow
    started falling just as we crossed Hoosier Pass. It snowed all day,
    which is great for skiing, but not so good for driving. 
    
    The fun started on the drive home, and I knew it was gonna be a heck of
    a good week. We were driving through South Park on route 9 just about 
    10 miles outside of Fairplay when this woman in a van decided that she
    should hit her brakes. Why? Who knows...there wasn't anything in front
    of her that would have required her to do that. Naturally, the road was
    icy and snow covered, so she spun around a few times and went off the
    road into a ditch. The Subaru behind her did the same....then came me
    in my awesome Grand Am. I decided to be different and spun off the
    other side of the road into my own ditch.  
    
    Jeff immediately leaped from the car, leaving me inside to die. But, I
    didn't. I backed the car all the way down off the incline and onto the
    edge of the grazing pasture....it was then I recognized one of Jeff's
    old girlfriends in the pasture and realized he didn't mean to abandon
    me, he was just excited. 
    
    I tried to drive out of the ditch but couldn't quite make it. Then it
    happened...the ultimate yuppie vehicle, a Range Rover, pulled up and
    offered to help. The driver was wearing dockers, Reeboks, and a mauve
    ski hat. He said "I think I have a winch, but I'm not sure how to use
    it"...and he pointed to the little hook coming out of the front end.
    
    That was it...I took a deep breath, straightened my cup, spat on the
    ground, growled, got back in the car and got that sucker moving. I
    drove along the pasture for 30 yards or so and then angled up the
    incline right towards Riggen and the Rover. I baja'd that Grand Am
    right up and outta that ditch back onto the road. I didn't need no
    stinkin Range Rover.
    
    That was the start of a great week in Colorado Springs which ended with
    yet another trip to Breckenridge to ski with none other than "Dan
    Moguls Schneider". 
    
    JoJ

    Good note, JoJ.  Glad to see you handled it yourself!
    
    On a more serious slant, I hope that no one in Sports was affected by
    that plane crash this weekend.  The last I heard, 25 were killed as a
    plane from Denver was approaching The Springs airport, suddenly banked
    and then dove to the ground.
    
    Lee

    Hi, LeE...
    
    I also was wondering about the plane crash. That flight from Denver to
    CS is one bumpy flight. Alot of turbulance along the front range. 
    
    I know someone returning to the Springs on Sunday. I think it was a
    later flight though. (I hope)
    
    JoJ

    I hope so, too, Jim.  When I went to CS, I was advised to fly to Denver
    and then rent a car for the ride down.
    
    I don't know if I was told that so I could enjoy the view, or because
    of the turbulance.  Good advice tho.
    
    Lee

    Say JoJ, did Jeff git a chance to run that ugly little rumor past 
    you?  (The one that has MrT beating you something like 12 or 15 
    straight 1-on-1's?)
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    Sorry Lee, we weren't thatr fortunate.
    
    A DEC employee from Ireland was on the plane from what I understand.
    He used to play in our soccer league on the Wild Geese for a couple
    of years.  I don't recall his name, maybe Tom Hill still has the mail,
    but they plan to have a moment of silence for him before the league
    games tonight and tomorrow night.  I believe he left behind a wife and
    2 kids...
    
    -Walt

    His name was Mike Kavanaugh. See note 96.16.  I'm going to suggest to
    the league that they get a trophy or a cup for the league championship 
    and name it after him. 
    
    Tom

    Good idea Tom.  I'm just getting in here for the first time today, so
    I hadn't got to 96.16 yet...

    Anybody up for some roundball at the end of March?  I'm available
    either 3/23 or 3/30.  I'm partial to that court by Mike Childs house
    (those hoops are friendly) but could play just about anywhere ...
    
    
    - ACC Chris

>             <<< Note 19.64 by RHETT::KNORR "Carolina Blue" >>>

>    Anybody up for some roundball at the end of March?  I'm available

I'm sure Dean will be available to coach, too, by then.

too quick Doug, hahahaaaa

I'm game. the courts are in good shape and getting plenty of use so if we have
alot of guys we may have to move to a different set of courts if we want to own
the hoops. If we only have a few folks then we can just blend in with whomever
is there. I'll see if I can find gold pants, I haven't seen him around in a
while.

I'll have to check to see which weekend the wife is off so I can throw her
and the kids out of the house...;^)

JoJ and I had a small noters get together last weekend. Jim arrived 
fashionably late as usual, He couldn't decide which ski hat to wear. We 
headed to the hills for a day of skiing. 
We stopped at Hill's Diner in Lake George for a carbo loading breakfast.
Blueberry Pancake, It takes a snow shovel to flip one of these syrup 
suckers. The waitress is definitly a 10K type person, 10K=born and raised 
above 10,000'. The bill was $8.00, that's for 3 people and Coffee. 
From this point is was off to Breckenridge for a Day of Mogul Shredding, 
beer drinking and snow bunny viewing. 
After skiing all day and feeling quite manly we headed for a local Yuppy 
establishment for a round of drinks and watched Arizona extend their 
winning streak at home. Of course this is Colorado so it did snow all day 
long. On the way home we were cruising across the momst desolate section of 
the trip home "South Park" when the Dodge Caravan begins to spin, the 
Subaru then heads in as spin. JoJ didn't have his Rusty Wallace hat this he 
claimed would have allowed him to shoot the gap between the vehicles and 
take the checker under the "yellow". JoJ lost control and began to spin off 
the road. I got out quicker than James Worthy got out of a Dallas Hotel. After
a quick examination we determined that a easy drive through the ditch would get 
us enough momentum to get out, WRONG. It was a snowing and blowing when out of 
the north a ULTIMATE yuppie Vehical appeared before our eyes, a RANGE ROVER. 
Biff jumped out and offered his help as soon as he figured out how to work the 
wench that came with the vehical.  
JoJ could not handle being pulled out by a true yuppie in his Dockers ski suit 
so he hopped into the Grand Am and powered that sucker right back on the road. 
Quite a manly accomplishment even for JoJ. 

Jeff

    
    >wench that came with the vehical.  
    
    I thought the wench in the back seat was an option, not a standard.
    
    Who sez this country don't make great vee-hickles.
    
    Dickstah
    

JoJ was also quite impressed with my pushing the Grand Am with me bare hands..

Nothing like the feel of wet hands on very cold metal.

Quite Manly


The guy with the wench just about wet his dockers seeing JoJ flying out of the 
ditch headed straight for the Range Rover. 

Jeff

And I'd bet all the while that blaring out of the tape deck of the
Grand Am was "macho, macho, man.  I wanna be a macho man!"   8^)

Although I must admit that if JoJ is into Rusty Wallace, he's okay
in my book.....

'Saw

    OK - I stuck my foot in it over in the rugby topic, this makes it
    official.
    
    May 18, down in Hartford, the Eagles (US national rugby team) v.
    whoever.  (I think it's Ireland, but I may be getting soccer & rugby
    mixed up.)  I have NO details at this point, and I probably won't
    be posting them here as they become available.  If you're interested,
    please contact me via mail (ISLNDS::WASKOM or send/author) and I'll
    add you to a mailing list for info and details.
    
    Copies of Rugby Rules for the Completely Confused, final edition,
    will be available to attendants :-)
    
    A&W

    The Eagles will be playing Scotland in Hartford.  'Saw will probably be
    able to provide more info than I, since he plays for Hartford.
    
    From what 'Saw told me earlier, Hartford may also be hosting the New
    England Tournament the same weekend, so there will be rugby galore in
    the area.  Has this been finalized, Frank?

>    The Eagles will be playing Scotland in Hartford.  'Saw will probably be
>    able to provide more info than I, since he plays for Hartford.

I have directions to Dillon Stadium, Hartford, CT.  What I don't have
is ticket info or game time.  As soon as I find out I'll make this
info available.


>    From what 'Saw told me earlier, Hartford may also be hosting the New
>    England Tournament the same weekend, so there will be rugby galore in
>    the area.  Has this been finalized, Frank?

All I can tell you at this point is that the Wanderers said to NERFU,
"If you want us to go to Newport for the NE Tourney, we'll blow off
 hosting Scotland-USA."  NERFU seemed very willing to negotiate after
that.

My guess is that NE will be in Hartford, since I know that Scotland
is still on.

More when I get back from tour....

'Saw

    Just a note for future considerations.
    
    I'll be in the Bedford area from April 15th til April 26th(or 27th).
    
    Anyone wanna get together and toss a few mixtures of the finest hops
    and barley??????Possibly take in some TALC also????
    
    JaKe
    

>    I'll be in the Bedford area from April 15th til April 26th(or 27th).
>    
>    Anyone wanna get together and toss a few mixtures of the finest hops
>    and barley??????Possibly take in some TALC also????
 
     JaKe,

     Sox are in town the 15-18 (Cleveland and KC) and 22-24 (Jays). 
     6 bucks will get you a fine seat out amoungst the bleacher bimbo's...
         

    I'm game.  Never been to Fenway, would like to go there.
    
    Are those night games???????Can't make any day games.
    
    Anybody else interested in an evening get together for a sox game +
    who knows what afterwards?????
    
    JaKe
    

       <<< Note 19.77 by METS::DERRY "Hey! What's that?! Call Logan!" >>>
                                -< Rog is God. >-
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^
 good thing I'm going the other way when I leave this place...

    Shhhhhhhhh, don't tell anyone, but it's only 5 months to BM IV, The
    Mother of all Manis.
    
    JoJ

  >       <<< Note 19.81 by PARVAX::WARDLE "March Madness is here!!" >>>>
  >
  >  Shhhhhhhhh, don't tell anyone, but it's only 5 months to BM IV, The
  >  Mother of all Manis.
  >  
  >  JoJ
    
     ...even more motherly than the Praying 'Manis'?
                                        Denny

BIG MANIS?

I'll bet Dinz could dicpher it if he was here...

    Dicpher? Mike, I thought you knew what that was for....
    
    re: BM
    
    Hawk, you're full of BM.
    
    For the rest of you, I meant GM IV.....sorry for the typo.
    
    JoBM

>    For the rest of you, I meant GM IV.....sorry for the typo.
    


Gynecological Manis....because we're always scopin' wimmins....


As for the WelcherDinz, he doesn't have the 'nads to show up in here...

'Saw

     Maybe DinzWelch is showing up with a Jests helmet for a jock :^>
    
     Bull~
    

 and who's the most famous typo artist this side of RALPHIED?

 mike    

    	I thought you meant you were taking your BMW again this year
    JoJ.

    So, anybody going to DECUS in May in Atlanta???
    
    I'll be there...
    
    JD

    Thanks for the Warning!!!!
    
    JaKe
    

 JD,
    
 I'll be at DECUS in HotLanta.   Maybe we can meet up and you can explain
 to me why you sent me the Aussie cricket player card.
 
 Bob Hunt

    That's great Bob.  I cain explain to you in person why Runningham is
    overrated!  ;-)
    
    I sent all the folks I knew would be hardcore Cricket fans cards.
    What action, what suspense!!!  
    
    Any 'Paper Dolls' in Hotlanta???
    
    JD

    Ah man, I didn't get a cricket card... and I still have my Dan
    Schneider card too...
    
    I would if I could, but I can't so I won't...
    
    -Walt

    Walt,
    
    Cards in the mail.
    
    JD

    Hawk,
    
    I ordered the Don King Mutli-Colored Chia-Hair!!!!
    
    To make it look right, I keep a picture of my Mother-in-Law minus
    make-up.  Puts that Chia-Hair straight up in the air!!!
    
    
    JaKe
    

    JaKe, be careful there.  Many's the young wife who turns out to look
    very much like her mother as time goes on!  :*)
    
    lEe

I too received a Cricket Card from JD.  It's the 1989 Aussie vs England
Ashes Competition.

The card is neat, it even has a spot for an autograph ;^)

It's sponsored by Stimorol - The Sportsman's Gum.  Personally, to 
me Stimorol sounds like something you'd inject into a horse!

Finally, I think we should all have a Get Together for a Cricket
game sometime.  I'm sure we could find one in the Boston area, 
and you know it would keep us amused for hours.....;^)


'Saw

    I also got my Cricket card...but I was ready to BLAM /Don for sending
    it to me.
    
    JoJ
    
    PS - Walt, where'd ya get the Dan Schneider card? Those are expected to
    be a big seller at the Republican National Convention nexted year.

I know this isn't the CARD topic, but if any of you read the SI
article about the kid who got the Koosman, Nolan Ryan 1968 rookie
card for 12 bucks by mistake (it's worht $1200), I've got that card!

What a rush....

'Saw

    RE: Paper Dolls in Atlanta
    
    Cheetah III and Tattletales.  No live band or "floorshow" like at the
    PD, but these ladies leave nothing to the imagination...nothing...if
    you know what I mean.
    
    Hard to believe I'd never been to a strip bar until three years ago
    when a buddy took me to one while on a weekend trip to see the Pirates
    in Atlanta.  Now I guess I'm the SPORTS officianado.  Either that or a
    pervert.  
    
    	--dan'l

    	Luckily JD also sent me a cricket lighter so I could burn my
    cricket card.
    
    				/Don

    re .104
    
    Yeah, I almost died when I saw the picture. I once HAD that card. The
    thing is, I got rid of al my old baseball cards just before they became
    popular....
    
    Tom

Although most people peg me at about 35 years old I was born in 1945,
and am what is euphemistically known as `an old pharte'.

I started buying baseball bubble gum cards at the tender age of four (in
1949).... mostly to get the bubble gum, but nevertheless, when I went
off in 1963 to fight for god, country, and my baby, I had filled up
several shoe boxes with baseball heros from 1949 thru 1963.

They are gone.

My mother claims she did not throw them away.

But I know that woman.... and she threw them away.

I hate when that happens. And I try to think about what those things
would be worth today as seldom as possible.

Mike JN

I never threw them away, for some reason.  I'm kind of sentimental,
and as a result I've got some good ones.

I've got some Pete Rose cards, and a Tom Seaver in his Mets Uniform
card.  I've got Roberto Clemente too. 

I ought to have them "appraised" or whatever it is that they do....

'Saw

    
> I ought to have them "appraised" or whatever it is that they do....
    
    My advice: don't.  Unless you really need the money or something, 
    it'll ruin whatever childhood memories you might have attached to them
    if you plan on keeping the cards.
    
    glenn

    Hey Dan'l:
    
    How about "The Gold Club" in Atlanta.
    
    A guy here in the office says that the Gold Club is one of the finest
    establishments he's ever been in.
    
    JaKe
    

    I never got the Schneider card... just a Xerox copy of it.  I think
    it was a 67 Topps...
    
    If you do get curious 'Saw, I've got a book or 2... Of course, if
    you're ready to toss them, you can mail me all the good ones.. haha...
    
    It is getting to be a farce, but more with the newer ones than the
    older ones.  Especially error cards.  And I can't be convinced a
    Dave Justice or Kevin Mass rookie card is worth more than say, a
    Dennis Eckersley rookie card or mid-career Bench, Rose, Carew, Jackson,
    etc....
    
    -Walt

    >>I never got the Schneider card... just a Xerox copy of it.  I think
    >>it was a 67 Topps...
    
    I gotta question, is that pertaining to age or IQ???????????
    
    
    (8^)*   ;^)   :^0
    
    JaKe
    
    

    Heard of the Gold Club but have never been.  That's because I usually
    rent a car that has pre-programmed directions straight to Tattle Tails.
    
    

I went to the Gold Club last fall... first time ever in one of those places.
Art deco, very brightly lit, certified prime A1 babes wearing nothing but a
smile.  Too much reality for my blood... I prefer surreptitious ogling of
young gals on the beach to having blond models dancing nekkid right before
my eyes.   What's most troubling is watching all the middle-aged guys sitting
there unabashedly leering at the girls nether regions, dried spittle forming 
at the sides of their mouths, their wanton lust pushing aside the image of
their frumpy, sagging, 40-plus, size 18 wives from their brains.   And this
was supposedly the best place... 

    Only 5 months to the Manis

>    Just over 3 weeks to Patriots Day (Panis?).
                                         ^

Make danged sure you watch your vowels there Kwak!

    I axed this a couple of weeks ago, but is anyone volunteering to organize 
    this year's Red Sox/Tigermania?  It would be a shame to break tradition.
    
    Mark.

    You're right Mark.  It would be a shame.  I vote for the series in
    October.

 Ok what's the gig on this Donny W. torching? Is he done for as a NKOB?
 please say yes....my six year old daughter's young enough to get over
 it..

 ;^)

    I'm going to be in the Bedford, mASS. area from 4-15 thru 4-26.
    
    Anybody for a get together????????????
    
    JaKe
    

    Kwak, what's the deal on the tickets for the opener?
    
    lEe

    Was there a signup about the Pats Day tickets in here?  I probably
    missed it.  Hawk, I owe you triple noogies for not sending me mail when
    you did the signup.
    
    Mark.

    RE: sign up...
    
    That's what I wanted to know.  Give him one for me, when ya see him...
    

Hey Loooofay.

If you hadn't been out in your waders, wandering around searching 
for headless browns, and the elusive whitefish, you could have been
hanging out in here, reading the annoucements......

[many 8^)]
'Saw

    I'll just con*veneee-eently* forget about Squawk when it's my turn to
    organize Red Sox/Tigermania again.
    
    So who's to organize this year's model?
    
    Karen, Walt, Jeff and I have had our turn.
    
    Mark.
    

    Yeah, Mark we have.... I really would like to see this come off.
    I think even JD's done it too, but I could be wrong.  I vote for
    October... if they're in the pennant race, I think it would be great
    to see the Tigers clinch it in Fenway... It's not that tough to
    organize, really.  Send mail, get $$$, order tickets, or however you
    want to do it...
    
    -Walt

    Walt,
    
    Yep, I organized tigermania once.  Don't you guys remember the little
    flyers I included with the tickets?  Geez, had a rat and everythang on
    it.
    
    JD

    	If you wait until October Cecil Fielder will weigh about 400
    lbs.  Did you see his picture in this week's Sports Illustrated?

    Sorry for omittin' JD. That was a most excellent occasion.  I object to
    Hawk's nomination of Walt.  Walt's done his time.
    
    As he said, it's no biggie.  You post a signup with a deadline.  After
    the deadline, you order the tix.  Then mail out the tix and collect.
    
    Mark.

    Nope...try again,  Karen has done her time.
    
    Mark.

    Hint:  His initials are Dan Schneider.
    
    Mark.

    Mebbe REK cain organize the next Red_Sox/Tigermania...he's a veteran.
    
    Mark.

    Oh no..no..no.. I did my share running the Chopsticks parties....
    
    REK

    Yeah Kwak, as Freddie Mercury would say...
    
    I've paid my dues... time after time... I'd done my sentence, but
    committed no crime...  No one wants to do this?  Come on... this
    is pretty darn sad... figures if you leave it to a Bosox fan, it
    don't get done... 1/3 of the Tiger fans have done it...

    I'll volunteer to organize it.  Don't post information here.  Send me
    mail stating ranking all 7 games in order of preference:  
    
    Thursday, July 4	605
    Friday, July 5	735
    Saturday, July 6	735
    Sunday, July 7	735
    Tuesday, Oct 1	735
    Wednesday, Oct 2	735
    Thursday, Oct 3	735
    
    I realize that the October series will probably be more popular, but I
    figured I'd give those of you wanting July a crack at it.  Let me know
    how many tickets you want too.
    
    It will be the same as always:  Majority rules on the date.  Cash and a
    self addressed stamped envelope up front.
    
    John

    I think the Sat & Sunday games (July 6 and 7) are afternoon games
    beginning around 1 pm.

 John, I've been trying to send you some mail but I can't link up with 
 7221 or either of the f____ node names....

 what you got a blacklist code or something?  ;^)

 just kidding...but anyways if you can send me mail with the price and
 address to send the check to I'll get it off pronto...

 mike

    Yeah John..... thanks...

    We've been having problems here.  My correct node is FSOA.  If that's
    no good, then use either FSBIC or FSDEV.
    
    Folks, there is a deadline of May 1 to let me know the date you want. 
    Based on the majority preference, I will post the chosen date and give
    a deadline of May 15 for sending me a check ($6/ticket) and a return
    envelope.  
    
    I thought I said the July 6 and 7 games were Saturdays and Sundays at
    105 PM and if I didn't, I apologize.
    
    Thanks Walt, for shaming me into this.  :-)
    
    John

    I did go back and check my previous reply and I did post the July 6 and
    7 games incorrectly.  I was thinking 105 and typed 735.  Oh, well.
    
    I've heard from about 6 people.  Right now, sentiment is running far in
    favor of October so unless we have a flood of requests for July, that's
    what it will probably be.  To let you know how I feel about it, it will
    more than likely be the Wednesday or Thursday in October.  Not only is
    Tuesday, October 1 my bowling night, but it's also my mom's birthday
    (she doesn't like baseball or I'd bring her to the game).  It's also
    Jeff Reardon's birthday.
    
    JH
    

Boo hiss....

Make it in July when I'll be back east....



Metz

    Here are the signees and their preferences so far.  There is now no
    clear consensus (October has a slight lead, but not by much) and I'm at
    the point where I'm ready to flip a coin.  I intend to ask people in
    person at Patriots Day about going.
    
    For those who missed out on Patriots Day and complained about not
    getting the opportunity to sign up, here again are the rules:
    
    1.  Send me electronic mail by May 3 indicating preference
    2.  I will decide and post the date based on everyone's preferences 
    3.  Then, I will post my home address to which you will be asked to
    mail a stamped, self addressed envelope and a check by May 17.
    4.  I order and distribute the tickets.
    
    The following are the people who have signed up to go:
    
    Name		July		October
    
    Mark Lefebvre	No		Yes
    Karen Derry		No		Yes
    Mike Childs		Yes		Yes (preferred)
    Walt Ashe		Yes		Yes (preferred)
    Alison Waskom	Yes (preferred)	Yes
    John Szabo		Yes		Yes
    Don Montgomery	Yes		No
    Tracy Galvin	Yes		Yes (preferred)
    John Metzger	Yes		No
    Don Robichaud	Yes (preferred)	Yes
    Frank Way		Yes		Yes
    John Hendry		Yes		Yes
    
    Ninj

    Karen and I have plans during the Fourth of July.
    
    Mark.

July 6 and 7 are out for me....

Mad River Rugby Tournament that weekend....  So it looks like a little
October Tigermania!  8^)

'Saw

    If Mad River is having a rugby tournament, and the "Can I go? Can I go? 
    Can I, can I, huh??" (picture little kid jumping up and down here)
    answer is "yes"........
    
    then I respectfully change my vote to October.
    
    Even though baseball is meant to be enjoyed in the sunshine, in the
    summer, and night games are only slightly less of an abomination than
    artificial surfaces.
    
    A&W

    Except for the Sunday date, the October dates are much preferred for
    me...
    
    Mark, you duking it out with Doc over Karen?  Or is the Slasher gonna
    interfere in this one too...

>    Mark, you duking it out with Doc over Karen?  Or is the Slasher gonna
>    interfere in this one too...

    I'd squash the good doctor like a cockroach.  He'd be fortunate if the
    Slasher stepped in.
    
    Mark.
    

Gosh, this is starting to sound like the WWF, when everyone was fighting
over Miss Elizabeth...

Too funny.....

    	I'll let Mark and Doc duke it out, then demolish the winner.

    Think I'm afeared of you, Slasher, just cuz you have more hair on yer
    back than I do?
    
    Bah!
    
    I'll bring the Japanese Olympic 7th Inning Calisthenics Women's Tag
    Team if ya git disrespeckful to me.
    
    Mark.

    re .155
    
    Lee-Fay, I'd drop your sorry arse like a bad habit ! Only reason I'd
    need Slasher is to notify your next of kin (who would probably
    celebrate) .....
    
    HTH,
    
    The Doc

    re .159:
    
    Yo Doctor Double Nada:
    
    I'll hit you with so many lefts you'll be begging me for a right.
    
    I'll knock you so far into the middle of next week your clothes will be 
    out of style.
    
    I'll hit you so hard your parents will fall down.
    
    Why, I oughta ... 
    
    

    Yo, Mr Misspelled Frenchy
    
    If you even DREAM of kicking my butt, you'd better wake the hell up and
    apologize to me.
    
    I'll whip you butt for three days straight, and let the child abuse
    people try to stop me - I'll whip their a**es too !
    
    I'll slap you so silly, people who call you by your node name ....
    
    I'll dog you so bad, Buster Douglas will call you for a fight.
    
    You'd better see a priest and send your soul to heaven - because your
    butt is mine !

    Pretty strong words... although scraping for Jeff Altman jokes is
    pretty desparate...
    
    Yeah, Hawk, what's Vivian doing during all this???  She always did like
    Guillermo's chaw bag...

    Hey, how about some Hoops in Worcester the first weekend in June. Magic
    Wardle returns to run his second Worcester Hoops Clinic. 
    
    Maybe Doc will show up this time....
    
    Magic_JoJ

    Re 19.163 "Karen, ya gonna take this lying down??? ;^)"
    
    Haw haw, toooo funny.  :*)
    
    C'mon, Karen, get in here and say somethin.  I'm dying to see what you
    respond with!!!  :*)
    
    lEe,who_got_to_sit_next_to_Karen_a_few_Tigermanias_ago_and_still_hasn't_
    gotten_over_it

    Walt, Miss Vivian to you.
    
    And if you've seen _Pretty Woman_, you'll get my drift :^)
    
    Mark.

>    Damn, lEe, what brand of lacquer was that?
    
Lacquer? 

Lee damn near married her....


8^)

'SAw

    JoJ, if'n you're going to be up this way agin, and I'm back in town
    agin, maybe we can get another noters softball game together - Red Sox
    fans vs. All Comers (since the Yankee fans can't seem to come up with a
    full team).
    
    Unfortunately the NRO field with the Dinsmore memorial fence is now a
    miniature golf course, so we'll have to do some scrambling to find a
    place to play.

    What about MRO fields?
    
    You Markie (same as Markie Post? nah...), as discussed earlier in this
    topic, I haven't seen Pretty Woman... when I do, I'll know what you 
    mean?
    
    KWAK, nah never mind....

    I'll be in Bedford next week and the week after.  Anyone for brewski's
    and TALC, or just brewskis or whatever....
    
    JaKe
    

    Could anyone sell me another ticket for the Pats' Day game ? I have a
    friend who would really like to go ....
    
    Doc

I've probably got an extra ticket to the Patriot's Day game.  If anyone is
interested and isn't a friend of 00:00, let me know by mail.

j.

    Dr. Goose Eggs, you ain't got no friends.  It's not nice to lie to the
    Sports brethren (and wymmins).
    
    Mark.

If any of you inebriated wildpeople stay around after the game you can cheer 
me on in the Marathon!  I'll be the tired looking guy with the beard wearing 
the "DIGITAL" singlet.

I should be passing by the ball park sometime between 2:30 and 3:00.

=Bob= 

    re .176
    
    Lie to Sports brethren about what ?
    
    Doc

    re .173
    
    You are awesome Jeff ... you replied to a note that hadn't been entered
    yet !!!!

    Pats Day
    
    Dave McNeil (old Sportsnoter from '90) and myself came by a couple
    of bleacher tix for the game. I know most of you are planning to meet
    at the Rat in the early AM. We aim to try to be there to hoist a couple
    wif you guys(cuz we heard the brews were on Hawk). If we cain't get
    there a couple of questions:
    
    1. What section,row(s), etc are you all sitting in? (I don't have the
       tix so I'm not sure where we are sitting)
    
    2. Where are you planning to party (if able) post-victory?
    
    Hope to see you all on Monday
    
    
    MikeL
     

    Hawk,
    	Actually my brother's name is Timothy. You wouldn't believe
    the crap he took (and occasionally still takes). As far as Dr. Tim,
    he was disowned by us rather straight-laced Learys. We knew that
    acid and LSD weren't necessary. We can reach the same "haze" by a few
    Colt 45's with Mexican refried beans. And we don't even have to alert
    the media.
    
    HTH
    MikeL
     
    

    Right now, with the mail messages I've been getting for TigerMania (I
    sent mail to everyone on SPORTS.DIS who hadn't otherwise replied), the
    October series has a big lead over the July series.  It's looking more
    and more like the game we go to will be either October 2 or October 3. 
    I can't go on October 1 since that's both my bowling night and my
    mother's birthday (I'd consider skipping bowling and bringing her to
    the game except that she doesn't really like baseball and she's never
    seen me attack a beachball before and may die of the shock) so that's
    where we stand.  Sorry, Metz, but you were the only one who can't go in
    October at all.
    
    I'm not particularly surprised since the 4th of July weekend is tough
    to organize something like this.
    
    Also, I'm going to be on vacation nexted week, so I won't be around to
    read about Patriots Day 1991.  I just hope we don't get rained out on
    Monday since there is a chance of rain but what the heck - we can hang
    around the Rat and watch the race.  Before road racing became popular
    the saying around Boston used to be "It's Spring and the saps are
    running."
    
    John 

>    around the Rat and watch the race.  Before road racing became popular
>    the saying around Boston used to be "It's Spring and the saps are
>    running."


I resemble that remark!  :*)

=Bob=

    Except, the entire point of my vacation is a baseball marathon.  I have
    tickets for the next 6 Red Sox home games (Sat-Thurs) and rain will be
    the death of my vacation.  I'm not happy about the weather reports.
    
    John

    The only game I'm sitting in the bleachers for is on Monday so I'm not
    really worried about getting sick.  I'm just worried about being off
    from work and being disappointed about not being able to do what I'd
    planned to do.
    
    John

Unfortunately, both of my tickets may be available.  I'll know later today. 
I'll post an update over the weekend, I guess.  You may be required to pick the
tickets up in Watertown.  I'm not significantly out of the way from the park.

Send mail if you might be interested.

j.

    So how will I recognize you all in the Rat? Don't say, "I'm the
    regular-looking guy leaning against the wall, drinking a bee-uh..." :-) 
    The only one of you that I know is Walt, and he won't be there.  Chainsaw, 
    you said you'll be wearing a rugby shirt, right? Any idear what color
    scheme? Also, do you have a beard, or did you get rid of it? Ninja, I saw 
    you (at least I *think * it was you - Maroon sweater & cap?) on TV when 
    Dick McPherson was hired, so I think I'd recognize you. Who else is going? 
    
    I'll be going to the game with my wife, and we're in section 12, but
    we'll definitely pop over to the Rat to meet youze guys. I'm about 5'9"
    175 lbs, dark, slicked-back hair and a beard. I'll probably be wearing
    a black leather jacket. My wife is 5'3" with dark, curly shoulder-length 
    hair.
    
    You could just stake out a corner or section of the rat, (upstairs?) so 
    those of us who haven't met can easily hook up. Looking forward to
    meeting all of you who I only know by node names.
    
    Tom 

    	Tom, just look for the guy in the Broons shirt, it'll be Dinz.
    
    				/Don

    I'll either be at the Rat or at Copperfields before the game.  I should
    be easy to spot.  I'm 6'1", 235 lbs., wear glasses and have a full
    beard.  I'll be wearing a gray or navy hooded WRFC sweatshirt and/or a
    black and grey windbreaker (I'm dressing in layers!) and a maroon
    baseball cap with a bunch of pins on it.

    	Dinz will be the guy wearing a Broons t-shirt that says...
    
    			     CAM NEELY
                                IS
                              GOD(Tm)
                              
    ...on the back.
    
    				/Don

I'm going.

If I get the chance, I'll stop by.

We're sitting in section 8.

I'll be wearing a black "Dodge Boys have more fun" jacket.

daryll

    RE: .186
    
    John, is that bowling, as in the awesome sport of Candlepins??????
    
    RTG

    Tom,
    
    While I won't be going, believe me, you *CAINT* miss those bozos once 
    you enter the rat.  First, if you see a guy about 5'3", with shades on,
    an IZOD shirt (collar up), members only jacket, Pressed dockers, boat
    shoes and a Beemer hat - that's Lufay.  If nexted to him you see a
    short guy, with short hair, that looks like a Marine - that's Chainsaw.
    If nexted to him you see a rude guy with a beer in each hand - that's
    Needle.  Caint miss these guys.  You'll want to turn around and leave -
    especially if with the wife.  And if all else fails - just walk in and
    shout "Hey Cubby Bear, WHERE ARE YOU??"  You'll find them then.
    
    HTH
    
    JD

    Yes, I bowl candelpins but badly.
    
    Also if you see a guy in a ninja suit, carrying dead beachballs on his
    belt and wearing a white crash helmet with a blue apostrophe on it -
    that's me.
    
    Ah shi!, I just gave away my surprise for Monday.
    
    Ninj

    Tom, you can also just walk in and yell "I LOVE SEABROOK STATION", then
    see which guys act like they're trying to dodge a sucker punch!
    
    One word of caution, don't get Chainsaw going on what he thinks about
    Kevin Romine.
    
    Another way is to bring a beachball with you and just throw it into the
    crowd.  The guy who bites it first is Hendry.  Or, the guy who ends up
    wearing it on his head, and looks like Yasar Arrifat, is Needle.
    
    lEe

>    Tom, you can also just walk in and yell "I LOVE SEABROOK STATION", then
>    see which guys act like they're trying to dodge a sucker punch!
 
HA!  I remember that game.  Someone's brother (Monty_not_Hoot's_Monty_the_
E6_Monty?) got sucker punched.  Don't remember who won... the game that is.

    You're thinking of Don Montgomery, who is no longer active in this
    conference but co-moderates the RED_SOX conference.  Monty works
    upstairs from me, is married and has a 9-month old daughter, is now our
    play-by-play typist with the Patriots, will be attending the game on
    Monday and is resisting being persuaded into a rugby comeback.  'Saw,
    you probably wouldn't like him much since he plays back and/or wing
    forward.
    
    John

   \Don will be the guy that everybody is asking for cigerettes.
   'Saw will be wearing a "New Kids on the Block" concert T-shirt.
   Doc Midnight will have a camera around his neck.


   I'll be arriving well into my drunken state.
   Needle if you don't go, give someone the keys to the RAT so we can
   get into the place real early.

Chuck

    Yeah, that's the Monty.  Looks like Dougie "Hi JD" Flutie.
    
    

    This just in...
    Thanks to BigMac, I'll be going, I'll be the one looking for Mac or
    Monty to get my ticket...
    
    Noter		Lookalike
    JD			Phil Simms
    Monty		Doug Flutie
    John Hendry		Ninja/Dudley Moore
    Walt		Clyde Frazier/Harold Baines/Garry Maddox
    			(I'll bring my soccer shorts for our game that
    			night at 9:00, right Tom?)
    Slasher		Jane Fonda or the guy watching the B's Tuesday
    Dr. 12:00		Dee Brown (just kidding)
    Hawk		Sgt. Slaughter after the Slasher video
    Lefebvre		The kind of guy who things visiting Japanese
    			teenage girls really admire his lats...
    Dinz		Ken Ober's cousin Flip on Remote Control
    Needle		Dan Schneider
    Dan Schneider	Jeff Reardon
    ACC Chris		Matt Doherty
    Bob Hunt		Jeff Lamp
    Mr T		Lawrence Funderbunke
    Karen Derry		Julia Roberts to some people in here...
    A&W			Typical Rugby groupie
    Lee Timmons		Wilford Brimley
    Chainsaw		Any singer in the group Alabama
    JoJ			Brian Boitano on Rollerblades
    Kevin Farley	Lou Carnessecca Jr.
    
    Who did I miss?

    John, you should do a baseball marathon right!  Rent a car, pack a
    couple of kids, lots of junk food, a cooler of refreshments, a couple
    of spare six-packs, a Nintendo Game-boy, and just hit the road!
    
    Don't you wanna see the new Comiskey park, or the stadium in Baltimore
    before it gets torn down?  Seeing the Red Flops for six straight days
    isn't a vacation - it's cruel and unusual punishment!!!
    
    NAZZ

 not bad Walt. I especially the Brian B. on blades...speaking of the
 blades one he mentioned basketball early June I believe? Anyways I'm
 game and yes we can cook at my house and what not...who knows maybe it'll
 just happen to coinside with a vacation or the wife and kids...

 ;^)

 mike
    

    Oh yeah - a description:
    
    I'm the guy who look almost as old as lEe!!!  No more beard, but a
    moustache with a distinguished amount of grey.  I'm 5-11, 210 lbs,
    will be wearing my UMass hat with a generic blue cordoroy jacket
    (no town name, no sports on it, no sponsors, no nickname, no nuthin').
    
    My darling wife is the 5' 3" woman who looks confused.
    
    NAZZ                       

    I don't have kids and I don't like Nintendo.  Besides, see the Red Sox
    for 6 days is OK with me - I'm a masochist.
    
    Walt, I look like Dudley Moore?
    
    John

    Yeah, you missed me, Walt.  I'm the guy who everyone thinks they've
    seen or met me before.  How, I haven't a clue.

    Guys -
    
    ALL accompanying people not generally associated with this conference
    look confused when in our presence.  It's a requirement.  Just picture
    junk noting live and in-person and you've got the Sportsters out for a
    game.
    
    A&W

    Hey, I recall the first time I didn't meet Mac.  I didn't pick him out
    of a crowd.  How could I ever remember that?
    
    Amazin
    
    lEe

    Anybody got some good stories to tell about the first time they didn't
    meet Big Mac?
    
    lEe

    
    	Oh come on JD.  I've met LuFay and he is not 5'3".  He's
    	at least 5'5"!  ;^)  
    
    	Claybroon

    Life may be too short to drink cheap beer, but I never met a free beer
    I didn't like ;^).
    
    Speaking of uncheap beer, the Rat has Mich dark on tap, and Harpoon Ale
    in bottles.

    
    	The best beer is OP beer......
    
	Other People's!
    
    	And "Fascist Moderator" is an unfair label given to Mac by
    	an overzealous (at the time) noter...........
    
    	Claybroon

    >JoJ		Brian Boitano on rollerblades
    
    Walt, I just lost my burgers and bud over this one!  Congrats.
    
    Mark.

    Nazz, you flatter yourself.  You could easily carry 300 on that
    frame.
    
    :^)
    
    Mark.
    
    

    
    Wow! I take a few hours off from noting to do some *work*, and I missed
    all the best stuff.  I expect I'll be at the Rat, and I'm the guy who
    looks like John Holmes, except most people wouldn't notice.  Your next
    reference is that I'll be with the blonde lady wearing a Redskins
    Jacket who's slapping the guy with her upside the haid a lot.  Great
    kidder, that gal.  Why she even told the 'Saw to frikkoff last
    tigermania for some reason.*
    
    Dickstah
    
    *She of course didn't mean it, C-saw.
    

>>    Needle		Dan Schneider

Not any more.  I shaved.  Now watch Dan go and shave before Monday just so he
can look like me again.

    Dee Brown huh ?
    
    I 'm trippin' .....
    
    Doc

    Ok, people have been whining...so...
    
    Karen DOESN'T look like Julia Roberts (I did say to SOME people),
     but closer to Julia than Dolly Parton or Dr.'s wife... how about
     Bonnie Bedelia, I always liked her too...
    
    Ninja doesn't look like Dudley Moore... hmm... any other ideas?
    I got it, Bob Costas...
    
    Nazz looks like he doesn't know what he's talking about, which is why
    he likes the Celtics and picks up Spurs after I offer him a winner
    FBA deal...
    
    Dickster looks like John Holmes... a dead stiff...
    
    Big Mac looks like, uh, I don't remember...
    
    Yankowskas looks like a real tired Larry Bird having to deal with a
    newborn...
    
    Time to get back to work, remember this when NOTY comes around... 
    (Smilies would go here.... if I did them... I'll let JoY do them for
    me... 1st place, yeah right the Tigers took 2 of 3 from them...)
    

    Dead stiff...  ha ha ha....  Now that's funny!
    
    /Don, don't forget that beer for Hawk.  And if that shirt don't go
    over, send it to me.  No, send it to Cath.  If she calls him
    Cammyhoney, she deserves it.
    
    Have fun.  Like you need me to tell ya that.  

    You mean Karen and LeE ain't gonna make it this year?

    Mac kind areminds me of Tom Cruises friend in Risky Business
    
    Nazz is kinda like a mix between Sam Webber and the little guy in that
    bicycle movie (man, my brain is fried today) "Breaking Away"
    
    HTH
    
    JD

    Dickster = John Holmes = dead stiff ....
    
    ROOOOOOOOLLLLLWAAAARDD !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh yeah, Mike Childs looks like Rah from Platoon.
    
    HJD

I won't be at the Rat, but I'm 6'2" and 189 {down from 201 since I started
playing hoops again six weeks ago}.   Just turned 30 last week and will most
likely be totally bald by 35.  

I've met Dan, Bob Hunt, Chris Knorr, and Tom Haas... and all I can say is
we'd make a very interesting basketball team.  

ya mean moochie... jd ?

I'd say John Hendry definately looks more like Bob Costas than Dudley Moore.
/Don is the tall slim guy keeping to himself in the corner.
Dan Schneider is Jeff Reardon. He could walk into the BP and nobody would notice.
Doc Midnight is...who knows? he never tells anybody his real name anyway...

Have fun and you're all scum becuase Sox notermania is in October instead of 
July...I'll be soaking in a game when I'm back east in july without y'all...


Hope you have nice weather....


 Metz

    The first time I didn't meet Big Mac, was the time he left the
    University of Texas Longhorns baseball hat on my desk.  It's still
    sitting here Mac.  
    
    RTG

>    Mike Heiser		the kid with the bowl cut singing at the Super Bowl
    
    yeah but my hair is a LOT longer than it was the last time I saw youse
    guys. ;-)

    I've gotten plenty of use out of my tie, RTG.  I always wore it when
    during the quarterly show and tells down at MCC.

>Doc Midnight is...who knows? he never tells anybody his real name anyway...
    
    you mean George Brooks.  He looks like Warren Moon when he was 5 years
    old ;-)

    I always thought Doc looked like Webster from the TV series only
    shorter....:-)

    I aways though Doc looked like a tan Gabby Hayes ;-)
    
    Metz - yeah, it was Moochie, the guy who said "Rahhh" or whatever it
    was.
    
    JD

    Gabby has a lower voice though ;-)

    You guys forgot the ultimate look-alike...
    
    Noter Glen "GL_" Johnson = Isaah Thomas....ask anyone.
    
    Who is Brian Boitano?
    
    JoJ/RB/D/Y/SH
    
    PS - Dan looks like Jerry Garcia

    Actually if Doc had breasts, he'd look like Aunt Esther of Sanford and
    Son fame..... :-)

    When I come up in June, if we can't arrange a hoops game or Red_Sox
    .vs. All_others softball game, how about a Noters Candlepin Challenge
    Match...
    
    But, I'm hopefull of a hoops match. If you guys could have seen Jim
    McFall shake and bake down the lane for that layup, you woulda died.
    It was a thing of beauty.
    
    JoJ

    Now you're talkin Jo*....
    
    And I know just the establishment for a Candlepin match.  A friendly
    little place I moonlight at, and is also frequented by the one and only
    Needlemeister.
    
    Softball sounds great too....But if it's hoops, I'll be the BEERboy.
    
    RTG

    Count me in for softball..

    ONe of you guys has to organize it...after all, I'm just visitin.
    
    If we play Candlepin, we could have the Jets Fan challenge....there's
    alot of Jets fans up there...you should see how big my jets.dis has
    become with all the requests.
    
    JoJ

    Re: "requests"
    
    JoJ, a request to be taken OFF of that list doesn't count, and I'd bet
    that you get more of those than requests to be added!!!111   :*)
    
    lEe

    re JoJ:  They must be Turk Schonert fans..

    More noter look alikes:
    
    Hawk  -   Marty Feldman.  Those eyes are a dead giveaway.

    Count me in for softball.
    
    I cain play "short" centerfield and pitch (provided it's sllooowwww
    pitch).
    
    Look like LOUIEEE!!!!!  Gawd, hari kari time!!!!
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev
    

    Whoa, Kwak looking like Marty Feldman?  
    
    Hawk, how come everytime I've see you, your eyes were synced?  :*)
    
    Lee

 Now see if you guys was paying attention the last time you would have noticed
 the softball field directly across the street from the hoops so we can do
 both. The early birds can warm up on hoops and then later on we can storm
 the softball field. After that we can hit my house for chow and then hit
 the slickered/fast tracking high action CoLOniAl LaNEs for some big time 
 candlepins?????

 mike

    More look alikes:
    
    Metz:	Jim Palmer with pants on
    JD:		Sherman (of Bullwinkle fame)
    LeE:	Father Time
    Slasher:	Richard Simmons
    Walt:	Ellis Burks (without the pecs)
    REK:	Huckleberry Hound
    
    
    Mark.

I'll play softball if we ALL get to carry bats ALL the time.....


A Great time was had by all yesterday.

Dinz wore his Cam Neely shirt ALL day.

Almost didn't meet Mac, but then did....I think ;^)


Stupid Hawk didn't get us a trip to Disneyworld.  The lady one row
back of us did, and then we got to see a videotape of Mickey Mouse
molesting her daughter during the award ceremony.

Favorite part was the guy with no shirt and BDU pants all caught in the
barbed wire while Boston PD's finest beat him senseless with nightsticks.


Oh yeah, a baseball game broke out at the SPORTS noters get together.

Tom, guess you didn't show, but I wore my All Blacks shirt -- only 
Dan noticed, but in Mac's defense once it got cold I never took my
Wanderers windbreaker off....


Final score   BOSTON PD 5  NKOTB 0


'Saw

    I'm sorry I didn't make it ... taxes and s--- ... :-(
    
    But I haveta hear a report ! Come on !!!!!
    
    Doc
    
    p.s. Cap, you're just jealous .....
    
    
    
    You're also a dead man ! :-)

    /Don --->   Tiny Tim
    Nazz --->   Rasputin (or is it NAZZputin ?)
    Heiser -->  Vlade Divac

Doc --

As I said, the best part was the guy getting caught in the barbed wire,
and the PD beating the snot out of him with nightsticks.

Honorable mention goes to /Don and his Dockers, Hawk's bald spot,
Mickey Mouse molesting the little girl, and Dinz wearing the Neely
t-shirt.

Actually, and seriously, it was a great time.  In the 9th inning it
started getting a bit chilly, but the rain held off until after the
game.....

Dickstah was having a  problem with the score, because he never knew
what it was.  Considering, though, that all he did all afternoon
was suck face with his wife, it's no wonder...


Hawk screwed up getting us a trip to Disneyworld.....


'Saw

    Look at at these feeble attempts at lookalikes... I guess imitation is
    the sincerest form of flattery.
    
    I kind of liked Donnie Wahlberg and his NKOTB posse getting kicked out
    during the 2nd inning by Hitler Youth (tm?), and yelling "Na na na na...
    na na na na, hey hey, goodbye..."
    
    That clubbing was really scary.  Wonder if anyone had a camera on that
    one...
    
    Think they have cam corders in Arkansas?
    
    Are we in the right row anyway?  Count from the bottom, add 1,
    double it and add 30.
    
    I bet if Phil Simms wasn't in Seattle, we'd have gone to Disney World.
    Instead it was some grandma giving her ticket away to her
    granddaughter...
    
    
    Who is Brian Boitano?
    
    Oh yeah, we need a lookalike for A&W.  She resented the special
    treatment she got... Any ideas 'Saw?

    
    > I kind of liked Donnie Wahlberg and his NKOTB posse getting kicked out
    > during the 2nd inning by Hitler Youth (tm?), and yelling "Na na na na...
    > na na na na, hey hey, goodbye..."
    
    What's with these Patriots' Day games that inspires all this trouble?
    For the second straight year I gave my tickets to the game away and for
    the second straight year the guy who went tells me there were all sorts
    of ejections from the rightfield bleachers.  That just doesn't happen
    at any other afternoon games during the season.  There's always some
    rowdiness out there, but the full police squad intervention is usually
    reserved for big night games and the post-season.  Got to be the
    designated Mass party day of the year or something...
    
    FWIW, I went on a chartered bus trip to Yankee Stadium for their home
    opener yesterday and the place was very well behaved, contrary to
    reports I'd heard.  Then again, I don't think there were too many more
    than 20,000 people there because of the rain, in spite of the 
    announced paid attendance (50,891).  The only incident was when some 
    nut ran around on the field in the middle of the eighth inning.  A 
    guard finally flagged him down with a beautiful shoestring tackle that
    sent them both sliding through the slop, and shortly thereafter an 
    ambulance was seen leaving the area behind the bullpens.  Ya never 
    know...  
    
    Yankee Stadium is in great shape for its age.  I knew it underwent the
    massive renovations in the mid-70's, but I didn't think it would look
    practically brand new.  Good game, had a great time there...
    
    glenn                            
    

   YOU CALL THIS A RECOUNTING OF THE DAYS EVENTS!?!?!?

   Bull Hockey! Let's have some dammails detit!
   ... uh... I mean some details dammit...

   What's this New Kids On The Block stuff ( I liked the comedian's line
   who said ` I wouldn't recognize one of the NKOTB if I was kicking him)

   Who got clubbed? Why? I assume it was racially motivated and the
   Police Chief and the City Council and the Mayor and several Boston
   Celtics will be fired... correct?

   Why didn't Kwak want youse guys to go to Disneyland?

   Did anybody get film of Mickey Mouse molesting that tender young
   pookie?

   What did Dickstah's  wife have on her face that made the Dickstah want
   to suck on it?

   Who won the game? (In fact who played the game?)

   Is it true that Chainsaw looks like Garfield with an attitude?


   Mike JN

    >Yankee Stadium is in great shape for its age.  I knew it underwent the
    >massive renovations in the mid-70's, but I didn't think it would look
    >practically brand new.  Good game, had a great time there...
    
    It should be, it's only 15 years old.  The renovation started at the
    ground up.  It took two complete seasons while the Yanks played in
    {shudder} Shea Stadium.  Almost everything is/was new.  If they could
    only change the neighborhood...
    
    As for the Fenway bleachers, I did see the STAFF jackets go in and grab
    people, but within my view the worst incident I saw was people good
    naturedly throwing a crushed cup at the dingbat with the cam corder,
    and this in a game that went 13 innings and encouraged attention to
    drift.
    
    I noticed...
    
    - /Don is suddenly on the Bruins bandwagon.  The guy has no shame.
    
    - 'Saw's brother wasn't sharing his Whoppers.
    
    - Walt was embarrassed by his Piston's getup.
    
    - Hawk was double fisting, and drinking both!  (not sharing with me!)
    
    - The Ninja retired after one measly beachball.  But it was impressive.
    
    - A&W is a menace if you're holding a full beer.
    
    - I got on the big screen as the lady right behind me won the trip to
    Disney World.  Reports of wimmin swooning around the park at precisely
    that instant...
    
    - The Yanks sure miss Jack Clark.
    
    - That'll be the last good game Matt Young pitches for at least a
    month.
    
    - A resounding "Let's Go Yankees" chant broke out in the bleachers, with
    dozens of Sox fans joining in.
    
    - Dickstah and his wife tried to steal the blanket of the old ladies
    behind us, but were beaten back with cattle prods.
    
    Dan
    
    

    Doctor Double Ought begs for tickets and then fails to show???
    
    Mark.

If JD had been there, he could have spilt iced tea on that old lady,
and then snatched away her ticket.


On a serious note, they actually mentioned us singing "na na na na" on the
game telecast.  Everyone could hear it, and they wondered why it was
being sung in the 5th inning.


As to who A&W looks like, no I don't have any ideas....  I'll think
of some though.


That guy wif da Camcorder and Arkansas hat came from Cousins Marry Cousins,
Arkansas, and is a distant cousin (if there's any such thing in Arkansas)
of the kid from Deliverance that played the banjo.


I much preferred the guy who was bodily removed from the centerfield
bleachers -- he was carried down by four HitlerYouth(tm).....


ML Carr owns his own phone sex hotline.  He gave me a card for it, and
I called the number, and this girl kept calling me big boy and asking
me what I wanted.  She kept asking me if RBI was a new way to do it....


Mac (whom I almost didnt meet) is NOT a second row.  The man is a prop
if ever a prop existed.  It wasn't until A&W told me he was the tallest
guy on the WRFC squad that I conceived of how he could be a second row.


Dickstah was sucking face wif his S.O., not sucking ON her face....

My brother didn't share any of his Whoppers with ANYONE....


 'Saw

    I wasn't embarrassed.  I'd rather wear that than jump ship to some
    bandwagon with weasels leading it....
    
    Needle had some crazy idea about seeing some other team besides
    Detriot(tm) for Tigermania...
    
    I don't think the clubbing was race related... Could have been Donnie
    Wahlberg related though...
    
    Was it Kwak that wondered if it would be worth it to moon Mr. Arkansas
    and get tossed out?
    
    
    I called that number 'Saw and mentioned I wanted info on doubles,
    triples and extra bases.  She said, "Oh sure, haven't heard from you
    in a while Mr. Worthy".
    
    I'm glad I was sitting in front of the Dickstah if he was just sucking
    face in front of the trip winning grandma, or was he trying to win
    the trip himself with his John Holmes impression?
    
    Definitely disappointed in the beach ball brigade.
    
    I forgot about the guy withthe for 4 HitlerYouth(tm).

    Congrats to me and the missus for having the good sense to leave in
    the 8th inning.  I mean, enough is enough!!!
    
    Congrats to the five security people who lugged that one guy out head
    first in about the 6th inning.
    
    Congrats to the 25 BC students for getting bounced in the second
    inning.
    
    Congrats to ML's dad for admitting it.
    
    Congrats to the Ninja who wowed the missus with the beachball
    destruction.
    
    Congrats to Jeff Needle for yelling "Siddown for Chrissake!" at
    least 15 times.  ;-)
    
    Congrats to everyone in the section for booing and giving the finger
    to the idiot with the camcorder.  What a weenie!
    
    Congrats to the three dozen people who couldn't figure out what row
    they were sitting in.  Classic!!!  Took until the fourth inning for
    these bozos to count to 10!!!
    
    Congrats to those participating in the Jack Clark consecutive strikeout
    count.  Now, did we decide if a walk broke the streak?
    
    Congrats to everyone who booed Mickey, Minnie, and Goofy, who were 
    really Haywood, Mrs Y., and John Harrington.
    
    NAZZ

    
    	Hey now!  I was born in Arkansas and my banjo-playin' cousin
    	is gonna get mighty irritated at the way you folks are makin'
    	fun of him.  So knock it off!
    
    	Let me get this straight.  'Saw's brother Whopper drove him
    	down to the game in his Jimmy but wouldn't share his beachball
    	with Ninja?  Well I don't blame him.
    
    	And Dan, there's a cure for the swoooning those women were
    	doing when you stood up.........
    
	it's called Right Guard!  ;^)
    
    	Maybe the Colorado Noters should have a similar event (except
    	we'll go see the Sky Sox).  Whaddya say?  I'll go as long as
    	I don't have to sit next to Mikey JN. 8*)
    
    	Claybroon

    Dinz was good to wear his T-shirt the whole game.  Of course, he only
    decided to put it on when I started taking some of his other stuff
    *off*....(Ya got to get to the Rat early to get in the proper mood for
    this event, folks.)
    
    We all dutifully file into what we think are our seats -- this is row
    13, right?  Then someone goes and gets someone who knows, and we all do
    the Digital Wave, as the entire row stands and moves down one row,
    displacing the row in front of them....
    Always remember, the first row of seats is row 2.
    
    We shoulda stayed put.  Mikey and Minnie and Goofy were giving away a
    free trip to Disney World (for 4) and someone in row 14 got it.  It's
    all Hawks' fault.
    
    The cops come and cheerfully escort about three rows of folks from the
    last rows of our section out of the park.  (So *that's* how Bob Euchre
    gets his front row seats.)  Later in the game, on the opposite side of
    the bleachers, they physically pick up and carry someone out.  Never
    seed anything like that before -- and I worked a season at Wrigley!
    
    Somewhere in there I think a baseball game was played, but it
    definitely got in the way of the good time in the stands.  Dan, sorry
    about the beer -- but ya gots to expect that kinda thing when you're
    blocking the route to the aisle :-)
    
    Ask 'Saw about the all-girl band at the Rat after the game.
    
    Fun day, all-in-all.
    
    A&W

    
>    Needle had some crazy idea about seeing some other team besides
>    Detriot(tm) for Tigermania...

It could be like a "logical" Tigermania.   You know kind of like

		DEFINE	TIGERS	MILWAUKEE_BREWERS

    
>    I don't think the clubbing was race related... Could have been Donnie
>    Wahlberg related though...

Definitely.

Speaking of Wahlberg, I loved Kwak's commented when we were betting
on the HitlerYouth(tm)/Boston PD vs NKOTB.  Hawk said he'd bet on the
PD unless Donnie Wahlberg had a torch, in which case Wahlberg would
win hands down...

    
>    Was it Kwak that wondered if it would be worth it to moon Mr. Arkansas
>    and get tossed out?
    
I said that.  Then, on the way home I was thinking of that guy, and I 
figured if he was related to that kid from Deliverance, and if we mooned
him, then he might be wanting to make us squeal like pigs....

    
>    I called that number 'Saw and mentioned I wanted info on doubles,
>    triples and extra bases.  She said, "Oh sure, haven't heard from you
>    in a while Mr. Worthy".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA(tm)

    
>    I forgot about the guy withthe for 4 HitlerYouth(tm).

Great, great part of the game.



Gee, I went to a SPORTS noters get-together and a baseball game broke out....


'Saw

Re Colorado Noters Get Together:

	I told A&W yesterday, that if I *ever* win one of those mega lottery
	deals, I'm gonna buy plane tickets for all the SPORTS noters,
	and we'll have the Mother of All Get Togethers in Chicago!

	Till then.....TOUGH!


The all girl rock band at the Rat was superb.  They were definitely looking
good, AND sounding good too.  In fact, I was trying to talk to Mac about
rugby, and trying not to be rude and swivel my head around to check them
out.  Tough to choose between the two best things in life 8^)

'Saw

>    Heiser -->  Vlade Divac
    
    I'm really disappointed in you Doc.  Thought you could do better.

    Well, I left Acton at 9:00 am, you'd think I could make it to the Rat
    before 11, but Noooo, we got a bunch of geniuses running the T system.
    Parked at Alewife and there must have been 200 people in line to buy
    tokens at the 2 booths. The T figures that since it's a state holiday,
    not too many people will need to ride the T to work....Yah, right. 5
    trains came and left by the time we got in. We should have gotten off
    at Auditorium, since the Green line trolley stopped for half an hour
    just before getting to Kenmore. Arrrgh! Well, at least we got there by
    the top of the 2nd..
    
    Sounds like a great time. I'll definitely make sure I make the next get
    together, whenever that will be...
    
    Tom

    re .281
    
    Translation : You was rooowaard and scandalized !

>    A day late, but so what!  Hey, I got to witness one of the most
>    incredible feats requiring filberts the size of watermelons yesterday
>    as my kids bravely walks rides into the OR, gets his tonsils ripped out
>    with a 24" chainsaw, wakes up wondering where the hail he was, does an
>    Exorcist movie scene only it wasn't pea soup, then decides this shit's
>    for the birds and walks outta the place at 7pm...  :-)  Seriously
>    though, the kid was really incredible- didn't shed a tear the whole
>    day (wish I could say the same), and came home all smiles and even
>    talked to a few people on the phone!  Too much...


Fine!  Proper!

Tell him I'll start his rugby training this summer, after the spring
season...


    
>    Oh yeah, the get-together...  Again, it was nice to meet some more new

Hawk, the best part was you putting your $$ on Boston PD "unless
Donnie Wahlberg has a torch".  That was too rollward!


'Saw

    
    Another one checking in a day late.
    
    Hey, there was no face sucking between me and my wife.  And if she
    was sucking somebody's face, it wasn't mine cuz I was in da baffroom
    every 2 1/2 minutes, where I peed for 3 minutes each trip.  Cold beer
    and cold weather does it every time.  Dan, were you cuckolding the
    Dickstah, say, every 2 1/2 minutes?  Oh, the shame of it all!  Or was
    it Micky Mouse?  I'm calling my lawyer right now.
    
    Dickstah
    

So, Dickstah, are you saying that like the Red Sox, you didn't score?  8^)

'Saw

    
    >So, Dickstah, are you saying that like the Red Sox, you didn't score?  8^)
    
    HAHAHAHA. Heck, my scoring takes a lot less than 13 innings, according
    to my wife anyway.
    
    Dickstah
    

    >>HAHAHAHA. Heck, my scoring takes a lot less than 13 innings, according
    >>to my wife anyway.
    
    
    She sez you gets done quicker'n Ben Johnson runs a 100 meter dash on
    'roids.

   Ol' "Did it in a minute" Dickstah....hahahahahahaha...

   The Microwave Man!

 Talked to JoJ aka BoB earlier this afternoon, he'll be heading to
 Merrimack on june 2nd (sunday). So if we want to get together for
 an all dayer on this day he'll leave early on sunday and meet us
 in worcester where we can play both softball and hoops depending
 upon the turnout. If the turnout isn't atleast 0.01% of the size
 of the Jets distribution list then sunday will be off and he'll 
 just stop down some night for hoops...

 So who's game for a few games on sunday june 2nd?????????

 mike

    JoBroons in town?
    
    
    I'm busy.
    
    Mark.

    Well a semi get together was held lasted night by 3 of the Seattle
    Sports Noters Society (SSNS)  The Metz', the Crouch's, and myself
    attended the Merry Marinators vs. Twiumphant Twins matchup in God's own
    indoor arena - the Kingdome.
    
    The Marinators won a thrilling, come from behind, 11 inning snooze fest
    4-3.   Ah, but the real thrill was the excitement this part brings to
    football.
    
    First off, they have a TarHell(TM) colored outfield wall.  And it gets
    worse.  THe mascot is a Moose wearing carpet remnents for shorts.  But
    the 200 level, where we sat, has TV's hanging from the ceiliing - so
    you can watch the game on TV if you tire of watching it live.  Only
    drawback to the TV's is that they carry the Marinator games.  I
    commented that the Marinators could sell out if they showed *other*
    teams' games on the TV's.  
    
    And they do have interesting in between inning snippets on the TV.  Why
    one inning, they showed the "So-Crates" bit from Bill and Ted's
    Excellent Adventure.  Another inning they showed the "Win one for the
    Gipper" seen from Knute Rockne Story.  Other innings they had baseball
    highlights.   
    
    And of course the popular "Bust that Needle" picturegraph (I'll let you
    guys Jeff  that one..)
    
    The female part of the party really seemed to enjoy themselves - they
    didn't watch the game.
    
    The kingdome sure gives you lots and lots of room to relax while
    watching the game.  Helps that there were ~`10,000 fans there (and it
    seats about 50,000.
    
    Overall a nice dress rehearsal for Marinator/SOX_a_mania - coming to a
    Kingdome near you this SUMMER!!
    
    JD

And I must thank Scotty for putting us out of our misery with that 11th inning
single up the middle to win the game for the marinators.

You know the mascot is bad when Nobody can explain why a team called the 
Mariners,from Seattle, has a moose as a mascot ? (actually Pete explained that
it was part of a newspaper drawing contest for kids, The moose sure looks like
he was drawn my a 5 year old)

The kingdome is quite the depressing place to see a baseball game. I've never 
been to the bathroom at a game before and walked right in and not have to stand
in a puddle to go.

The wives were begging to be able to leave by the 10th inning. I thought I was
gonna have to hold JD back from going onto the field to berate the 3rd base 
coach after he held a runner from 2nd on a single to right with the game tied 
in the bottom of the 8th.

Jay Buhner will k 300 times and hit 70 hr's if he stays on his current streak.
Pete Crouch's idol is Jay Buhner.....

Griffey Sr. has one ugly swing........


Metz

    I might be around July 7th Metz, but October is still better for me...

       Hey Hawk, by June 2nd we could all be in the full-time bartenders'
    employment line!
                                             Denny

    Re REFINE::ASHE "Whatever happened to Lionel Richie?"
    
    Walt, I think he went into the model train business.
    
    HTH
    
    lEe

    Ina  some what related topic, did they ever find the bullets mascot?
    
    dinz

    	Yeah Dinz, he took a basement apartment to be in character with
    the team he's a mascot for.

    Lionel Richie hasn't been the same since his wife beat him and his
    girlfriend up, when she caught them in the sack.

Chuck

    Hawk - I fergut - what's the name of the establishment where you tend
    bar?
    
    Thought I might like to harass you some Sunday night.  Guess I'd better
    make it soon though, huh?
    
    NAZZ

    re.304
    
    I'll be a visitin' the establishment this Sunday night to tip a few icy
    cold mixtures of the finest hops and barley and shoot the SLOF with
    Hawk.
    
    JaKe
    

/Don,


The Spikester is going to lead the Expos to the NL crown this season....


Metz

    Re .306 - Yeah, but what's the name of the place?????
    
    NAZZ

Kwak --

I think you should create a drink named after Donnie Wahlberg.  It would,
by necessity, be a flaming drink.  All who put it down (flaming, of course)
would be granted honory HitlerYouth(tm) status......

Just a thought,
'Saw

>Kwak --

>I think you should create a drink named after Donnie Wahlberg.  It would,
>by necessity, be a flaming drink.  All who put it down (flaming, of course)
>would be granted honory HitlerYouth(tm) status......

 and it would have to be sweet so about this a jigger of sambuca, with a
 1/2 jigger of cinnimon schnapps, toped of with a little Galiano....

 that should torch...

 mike

    Nazz, spend your hard earned clams elsewhere.  Squawk's establishment
    is a fern bar, replete with Coronas, limes, sushi, jazz and condom
    dispensers.
    
    Mark.

>Nazz, spend your hard earned clams elsewhere.  Squawk's establishment
>is a fern bar, replete with Coronas, limes, sushi, jazz and condom
>dispensers.


Does this mean that Kwak has to wear Dockers and an Izod shirt when
dispensing libations in the aforementioned establishment?????

>Does this mean that Kwak has to wear Dockers and an Izod shirt when
>dispensing libations in the aforementioned establishment?????
    
    Damned straigh, Saw.  As a matter of fact, Squawk has to ring one of
    them there cowbells everytime he gets a tip.
    
    Mark.

Oh, that's disgusting.

I think we all ought to drop in there some evening in our manliest of manly
clothes -- jeans, flannel shirts, leather jackets and chawing on a 
healthy plug of Redman.  

We'll saunter into the bar, order Jack Daniels and Colt 45s, and groal
at any Perrier-sipping yuppies.

Then it'll be up to Kwak to explain to us why he's wearin' Dockers.....


8^)

'Saw

    I'll attest to .316.  No Dockers, no ferns.  
    Good food, good beer, cable TV didn't work though but that was the
    storm.
    
    Captain's plate contains enuf food 4 two.  I were stuffed.  
    
    JaKe
    

>    I'll attest to .316.  No Dockers, no ferns.  
>    Good food, good beer, cable TV didn't work though but that was the
>    storm.


Well, if it don't have a crusty ol' salt, with and eye patch, a hook, and
a peg leg, sayin' "Har har me buckos", and if it don't have a fetchin'
lass in a peasant dress passin' out ales, and if it don't have a least one
drunk tar in the corner singing chanties, then it ain' no manly bar!


I'll bet it's the kind of place Captain Merrill Stuebing would go, with
Gopher (or was it Gerbil) and Julie McCoy.....


'Saw

    Hey, I saw that old salt on TV last week.  He was being interviewed and
    the host asked him how he got the peg leg.  He said is was from an
    exploding shell.  The host asked about his hook, and he said he got in
    because of a duel.  Then, the host asked about the eye patch.  The
    salt said it was because of the seagull.  The host asked if a gull had
    pecked his eye.  The salt said, "No.  I just looked up, saw a gull and
    what he was doing, and I forgot that it was my first day wearing the
    hook!"
    
    lEe

>a peg leg, sayin' "Har har me buckos", and if it don't have a fetchin'
>lass in a peasant dress passin' out ales, and if it don't have a least one
>drunk tar in the corner singing chanties, then it ain' no manly bar!
                   
    As I said, Hawk wore no dockers.  
    
    Hawk,
    I think the peasant dress was overkill.  With your legs, slacks would
    be better choice.
    
    JaKe
    

    BTW, Hawk, you're "Solar Panel" only qualifies as an "auziliary
    generator" compare to my "Nuclear Power" plant.
    
    If'n you're going to wear the skirt, at least shave them legs.
    
    JaKe
    

   I went to a Bar that was just like the old SNL `Hambuga, Cheesebuga'
   place.

   It was a Birthday party get-together at Bud's Bar in Sedalia Colorado.
   A regular Cowboy bar. Lotta cowboy hats, baseball hats with Feed Lot
   decals, etc. All kinds of pictures on the wall of cowboys, statues of
   Western art here and there, Dead animal haids on the walls. Juke box,
   dance floor, cheap drinks, noisy..... in other words... practically
   heaven.

   For food, they have hamburgers, and cheeseburgers. Period. No hotdogs,
   chilidogs, pizza, frenchfries, desserts, grilled cheese, nothin. Just
   Hamburgers and Cheeseburgers. And they are really excellent Burgers. To
   put on the hamburgers and cheeseburgers, there is thin sliced sweet
   onion, thin sliced dill pickles, Catsup, Mustard, Salt, and Pepper.
   Period. Nothing else.

               On the wall behind the bar is a sign. It says:

                          This isn't Burger King.
                         You don't get it your way.
                             You get it my way,
                    or you don't get the son-of-a-bitch!

   I kinda liked that
   Mike JN

                   U.S. National Soccer Team                    
                                vs
                     Republic of Ireland
    
              Saturday, June 1, Foxboro Stadium, 7:00 pm

Regular price - $15  Reserved bench seat.  Group rates at $13.50 per 
ticket, through Corporate Employee Services & Recreation. See the 
Activity Rack in your facility. (Orders must be in by May 8th)
    

    So, is anyone going to DECUS in Atlanta next month????   I know Sr.
    Hunt is.  Anyone from the Atlanta office going to be around????
    
    We're trying to plan a get together - probably a Braves game.
    
    Dan S. - you going???
    
    JD

    BAD NEWS!!!! VERY BAD NEWS!!!!
    
    GIANTSMANIA IV is cancelled!
    
    The NY Football_money_grubbing_scumbucket Giants have forced season
    ticket holders to buy tickets for all the pre season games as part of
    the package. That means no tix for the rest of us.
    
    We probably can still get tix outside the stadium from scalpers at face
    value. Who would pay a premium for a pre season game.
    
    I'm gonna start a note for this topic....
    
    Jim

     JoT (Jim on Tickets)
    
     I thought that the Jests are the home team this year. Giants were
    home team lasted year.
    
    Bull~
    

    Well, the Giants box office said "no tickets"....
    
    JoJ

Well, we could have the firsted annual RugbyManis on the 24th.

That's the date of the Monmouth tournament, in Monmouth NJ, which I believe
is only about 45-60 minutes farther south than the Meadowlands.

There's plenty of beer, lots of hardnosed, annihilating contact rugby, 
and it'd be the perfect party atmosphere.  Besides, the women at the 
tournaments are always better than the ones I've see at Giant Stadium
parking lot....


We could also keep an eye on ads in the paper for season ticket holders
who are wanting to sell their preseason tickets....

Could we shift the Manis to Foxboro?  No problem getting tickets there....
(I'm assuming they play the Patsies in preseason?)

'Saw

    The New York Giants visit Foxboro on Saturday, August 24 at 4PM.
    
    John

    JoJ,
       It wasn't that I didn't believe you, but I figured if the Jets
    were the home team the Giants season tickets package wouldn't come
    into play.
    
    Mania at Foxboro might not be bad.
    
    Bull~
    

    	So does this mean we could have Giantsmanis on alternating years?

	Just talked to Jets ticket office. They have no tickets available now.
They said to call back in July, and tickets may be available then.

	Jim M

 Who are the Jints playing the night you guys want to go ???   If you
 cain't get tix from the Jints, you could probably get them from the
 visiting team.
 
 Bob Hunt

    >>   <<< Note 19.333 by MPO::MCFALL "Keep these mutts away from me" >>>
    
    you need a photo opportunity? You need a shot at redemption?...ha ha
    
    RUGBYMANIS? Na...who cares about Rugby?
    
    JoJ

>    RUGBYMANIS? Na...who cares about Rugby?
 
Those that are willing to put their entire body on the line for the team.
Those that are willing to do whatever it takes, be it sweat, bleed, whatever...

	"We just play for recreation...."

See the problem is JoJ, that ruggers don't drink enough Perrier for you to
feel free to associate with them ;^)  And we'd NEVER be caught dead wearing
Dockers.  (Actually, most of us wear those baggy weightlifter pants....)


Anyway, you ought to pop on down to Monmouth, if it's not too far from
where you live.  We'd hav a chance to throw back a couple of brews.....

later,
'Saw

    OK, so I'm a week and half late...
    
    I had a great time at the Sox game, except the goodguys lost.  
    
    I missed the cops and the barbed wire.
    
    I cain't believe that Hawk and Nazz actually left well before the game
    was over (at least they stuck around a few innings longer than those
    guys trying to get a suntan 20 rows above us).
    
    So A&W was spilling beer?  That might explain what happened to my
    missing post 7th inning beer stash...

 Notes> SET NOTE /NORUGBY
 
 Hah, thought you'd catch me napping, didn'tcha, 'Saw ???
 
 The Rugby Police never sleep.
 
 Bob Hunt

    Bonedigger, bonedigger, 

Yeah, but Mr NORugby, your qualifier has about as much effect as a
weak side wing on a burly prop who has a head of steam up and is headed for
the goal 8^)

(Actually, I thought you were napping......)


The only thing that could have been better about the Patriots Day game
was the weather.....8^)


'Saw

Hawk --

I was rather taken with the rockers at the Rat...8^)

I think that's a fine idea you've got there, and nexted year we should
do it up right, mentioning the tailgate etc...  Should be fun.....

'Saw

    
    >    bringing a couple grills and inviting all you freakin' lunatics over,
    
    Hey, this sounds like a great idea.  I'll leave my wife home if you can
    scrape up another grillfriend that I can suck face with.
    
    Dickstah
    
    P.S.  You really oughta use the spellcheck, Kwak.
    

    Remember back a few when I said I was the guy that everyone seems to
    have seen before?  I was on an plane bound for Austin last week when
    this guy comes up and taps me on the shoulder and says hi.  I give him
    a blank stare and he says "you don't remember me do you" then he went
    and sat down.  I swear I never saw the guy before in my life.

    
    And I was pretty uriniated at you, Mac, for not recognizing me.

Well, Mac, that's pretty funny. 

In fact, it makes me think of my "curse"...

I can get on an airplane, and be the ONLY guy on the plane, have all but
one of the other passengers be Playboy centerfolds, and won't you know that
the one other passenger just happens to be a prunefaced, wrinkled up old
lady who was the waitress at the Last Supper, and darned if she don't
end up sitting next to me.....

Arghhhh!

    Hahaha Frank,
    
    Same thing happens to me.  Either that or I get some big farmer type
    guy from Iowa who's never been on an aeroplane before.
    
    One flight (a red eye) I get this FOX sit nexted to me.  I'm in heaven.
    We have drinks together, we're talking, she dressed to the nines.
    
    Turns our her father was the PILOT on the damn flight (and she-a turned
    out to be a younger than I thought).
    
    The stews were falling all over her, until the told her she could mve
    to first class... such is life ;-(
    
    But nothing beats the little old scottish lady we sat nexted to on the
    way from Auckland to Sydney.  She got everyone so confused that I ended
    up geting 3 beers after asking for one!!
    
    A classic.
    
    JD

    
    >lady who was the waitress at the Last Supper, and darned if she don't
    >end up sitting next to me.....
    
     Hey, I remember her!  Mary something-or-other I think it was.  Was she
    the one who washed my feet with her hair, or was that the barmaid?
    
    Dickstah
    

That's why her face was like a prune, because you were sucking on it for so
long!

    I think that barmaid was a rugby player once...

    Dickster, you was a busboy at the Last Supper ? 
    
    Hope the tip I left was large enough ...

    
    >    Dickster, you was a busboy at the Last Supper ? 
    
    I was there because they told me it was a drink-up after some new
    game they invented where they take pig bladder, and guys ran around
    beating the crap out of each other.  Sounded good, until they told
    me I had to gird my ears with some kind of papyrus wrap.  I thought
    the washing of the feet with the hair was kinda titilatingly kinky,
    but I drew the line on these guys eying what they called my prop butt.
    
    It gets kinda fuzzy after that, but one of the guys, I think he was the
    captain of the team or something, said "Let's go outside."  He went
    behind a rock to puke, while the rest of us just kinda passed out until
    the cops raided the joint and started taking names.  Being underage,
    I naturally split and left town for the weekend.  Rumor has it that
    one of our guys was a stool pidgeon for the Feds, as he was seen
    rapping with them afterwards and taking what looked like a cash
    payment.
    
    I don't know whatever happened to the captain and his buddies, but the
    game they invented is still being played today in almost its original
    form.
    
    Dickstah
    

    You hurt my feelings Hawk ....

    The votes are in.  TigerMania for 1991 will be on Thursday night,
    October 3.  It is the lasted game against the Tigers so if it gets
    rained out ticket holders will be able to either exchange them for a
    game with the Brewers (the lasted 3 home games of 1991 on October 4, 5
    and 6) or wait until nexted year.
    
    There are 30 potential tickets for this game, 29 for October 1 and 28
    for October 2.  None of the July games was going to be more than 23.
    
    For anyone who is interested in attending please do the following:
    
    1.  Write out a check payable to me @$6/ticket.  In other words, if you
    want 1 ticket, you owe me $6; 2 tickets, $12 and so forth.
    
    2.  Mail it and a stamped self addressed envelope to me at 518 Wilson
    St, Clinton, Ma  01510
    
    3.  Do this so I have it before May 15.
    
    From there, I will buy and mail you the tickets.
    
    Ninj

    A mini-noters gathering was held lasted night at the Braves game, where 
    Bob "Ketchup" Hunt, JD, and yours truly rooted the home team on to
    victory.
    
    I could hardly contain my glee when JD showed wearing 'The Shirt' that
    he won from me, thanks to an impressive pro-Carolina note he entered 
    during 'The Contest'.  Rumors of its demise were grossly exaggerated.  
    It looked in fine shape and hardly worn.  (The shirt is bright red with
    'IU' on the front and some unmentionables printed on the back.  Around
    the sixth inning some drunkin fan stumbled up the isle, looked at JD
    and 'The Shirt', and said 'YOU LOOK JUST LIKE LARRY BIRD!'.  I'm not
    making this up ...)
    
    What impressed me the most about 'Bob' and 'John' though was how much
    they admitted to me (off the record, of course) their respect and
    admiration for Carolina basketball.  Why, I brought a 'Carolina Blue' 
    with me to the game and they could hardly keep their grubby hands of
    it, reading all about Dean and our seniors.  Bob even brought a little
    Carolina 'gift' for me prior to the game!
    
    Nice guys they are, and not nearly as anti-Dean as they'd have ya
    believe!
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    	JD does look like Larry Bird...
    
    	After a bad case of ricketts...  8^o

    >some drunkin fan stumbled up the isle, looked at JD
    >and 'The Shirt', and said 'YOU LOOK JUST LIKE LARRY BIRD!'.  I'm not
    >making this up ...) 
    
    What an insult!!  JD knocked the drunk into the next county, I
    presume...
    
    Dan

    Phil Simms, definitely the Phil-man, the Phillerino, the
    Phil-meister...

    > Whan an insult!!  JD knocked the drunk into the next county, I
    > presume...
    
    Actually he was so completely taken aback, so completely *shocked*, ...  
    that he didn't have time to do anything except make all sorts of ugly
    contorted facial expressions. 
    
    I think he had regrets afterwards though.  My only response was
    'Obviously the fool doesn't know that Bird was run-off by Knight
    in his attempt to go to IU and ended up down the road apiece.'
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    To clear this up, the guy actually thought I was Larry Bird's brother.
    
    As for Caroline Blew - you should see that rag - they had a great
    article
    that kept me and Senior Hunt chuckling - it listed the awards won at
    this year's banquet.  They have awards for everything:  Best senior,
    Most Charges, Best practice player, The Inspirational Award went to
    King Rice - so women of the world look out!
    
    Of course, the Tarhell (tm) fans gave Dean a coveted Award:
    
    The Chicago "Does Anybody Really KNow What Time Award" went to The
    Deanster.
    
    The Georgia Brotherhood of Lay Masons gave Rick Fox their:
    
    "Bricks:  The Foundation of a Strong Society Award"
    
    King Rice received the Robin Givens "Upside the Haid Award"
    
    and of course, Bob's Revolving Door's Emporium, of Charlotte, presented
    Dean with a little revolving door replica - to commemorate his 
    policy in the final four (93 substitutions...)
    
    JD
    
    PS:  I won money in the baseball game!

 Talked to Walt this morning and he's game for a get together on June 2 nd
 when the head of the Yuppies Union JoASNVBGLDPRFNBHYPSPTMDMHLUPPJ is in town.
 It looks like basketball because there doesn't seem to be enough interest
 that we could field softball teams. Who else is interested? DOn will be
 taking care of the post game festvities.....

 mike

    AS OF NOW, its a go, i wanna whip wardle like in joisey last august
    
    right JOJ?
    
    DINZ
    

    Dinz,
    
    So that's why you had that studded leather outfit on.  Didn't realize
    JOJ was also JOW (Jim on Whipping) or JOSM (Jim on Sado Masochism)
    
    JD

    HA.. GOOD ONE  JD!
    

    I'm interested - if healthy ....

    
    
    >>     <<< Note 19.367 by LUNER::BROOKS "Say it ain't so Homey !" >>>

    >>I'm interested - if healthy ....
    
    
    Hey DocMidRacingStripeInTheShorts:
    
    Why not just retire now and go out on top while you're still a legend
    in your own mind!!!!
    
    8^)  (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

 the banana or the latern during the week are excellent choices Hawk. But if
 we are going to have a sporting evenrt in worcester than 6/2 is it because
 that's the day JoJSGFJRTODNSNABDFLHLDKLFHJYHKVNG:>DF:P is travelling up
 this way....he's going to be in Merrimack after that until wednesday...

 mike    

    I may be late, but I'll try to make it.
    
    Dan

    I thought it was originally planned for SATURDAY???? and now
    it's Sunday????
    
    I got the pass from the SO for Saturday, hope I can negotiate
    a swap.....
    
    Put me down at 3:1
    
    Kev
    

    re: FrankWa...if your ankels hurt, you should quit grabbing them all the
    time for that Rugby team of yours.
    
    re: Needle, who needs ya...you're just a wannabe Caso anyway.
    
    re: Dinz, you never whipped me. You must be thinking of whipping
    something else...ya know, you have been dating Rosy for awhile now.
    
    re: Doc_No_Show....I dare ya to come. In fact, I double dog dare ya.
    
    JoJ

Ankles are so for a couple of reasons.  The only place I have to grab them
is here at work.  But then everyone has to take one up the butt for DEC, 
right????

Ankles are sore because of being stepped on, and making cuts on hard ground,
and having about 15 pounds too much (for a start) on this frame.

IF I don't have the Connecticut Cup tourney the day before, I'll show....

'Saw

    Where and when ?

    So who is going to be at the get together in Hartford this Saturday? 
    If I remember right, it will be me, 'Saw, Rachael, A&W, and John H. 
    Anyone else?

    JoJ that ankle grabbing comment had people howling.
    
    Heard a joke on the radio today.
    
    What do you get when you play a country and western record backwards?
    
    You get back your wife, your money, your truck, your dog......
    
    Jimbo

    Checks and envelopes are trickling in very slowly for TigerMania in
    October.  I figure I won't buy the tickets until June at this rate. 
    Deadline extended until the end of May.
    
    Ninj

 Well the June 2nd affair BasketBRAWLII is shaping up. Bucky is coming.
 I think Dinz and Myself owe Dan and JoJ a pasting. Dinz says he can
 spot JoJ 5 and beat him in game to 21. In a game to 15 JoJ claims he'll
 beat Dinz by atleast 5. So who else is interested. Walt said maybe so did
Doc but I think he just wants to talk a game of trash ahead of time and
then not show. Oh Yeah Shake and Bake McFall is supposed to make a visit,
 so who else? Let's make up some more teams so we can talk more trash....

mike

    count me in!  What time and where?
    
    Kev_the_wallbuilder
    
    :*)
    

    I'll play Dinz, Doc, Bucky...even Mike in a game of 1-on-1, but no way
    am I challenging "Shake-&-Bake McFall"....I would like to see /Don and
    S&B McFall in a game though. 
    
    We could even call it "Clash of the Titans".
    
    JoJ  8^)
    

 I want to know for sure by thursday if you're coming or not. If we don't
 have enough I'm going to Maine for the weekend and will go out with JOASBDRERTF
 SNDNMRP{E{DMGYYTOLEDKLEKTKGOSK : KVG$KTFKSKPO$IK%{YKH:JG during the week.
 If we're going to show then fine I'll stay home....

    im a definite, let me post up that siclian ... hes crying already
    
    about his  poor thumb..
    
    dinz
    

    Where and When ?

    Mike, take Jo* to Stoney O'Briens' on Thursday.  I'll be there anyway. 
    Besides, he needs a dose of a good neighborhood beer joint after
    spending all that time frequenting those fern bars with his roller
    blading buddies ;^)

    Hey Hawk, where ya bartending? Me and my partner will come by and order
    a few trendy drinks from ya....seriously, give me the address of where
    you'll be woikin.
    
    BTW - I am bringing my rollerblades. Better watch it hawk, I may just
    blade into your bar and embarrass you.
    
    Doc, how many times are you going to ask "where and when"? 
    
    JoJ

 I talked to Bucky B. Filberts this morning he plans on meeting us at
 my place at 1:00 pm sunday ok JoJ? 

 Doc I live in Worcester tell me where you are coming from and I'll 
 tell ya how to get there...

 Don/Dinz I think you guys remember where I am???


ex

    Doc is asking where and when to set up the inevitable no-show.
    
    Mark.

 
 
Directions to Mike Childs' house for this sunday at 1:00

FROM THE EAST:

 Take 290 West to route 70 Shewsbury/Worcester exit. Bear right off the exit.
 After crossing over the lake take the second left just before the Marine
 Corp Base and before the meridan in the road starts. Road twists around
 behind the fallon clinic at the end of the road take another left on to
 Lake Ave. Go straight through the set of lights that intersect route 9
 after a mile and half or so you'll come upon a Skating Arena on your right
 and a football field on your left. Take the first right after the Skating
 Arena this is Hamilton St. Take your second left off of Hamilton St. This 
 is Boston Ave. At the top of Boston Ave take a right I'm the third house
 down on your left the Blue one.

 18 Glezen St is the name and number the phone is (508)756-0483 


                                                     X
					     --------------
					     |  glezen st
					     |
					     |boston ave
			   Hamilton St       |
                          ____________________
    			 |
			 |
		Football | Skating Rink
	        Field    |
			 |
			 |
			 |
			 |
290W		         |	route 9
------------|      _____________________
            |		 |	
            |		 | 
	    \__ 	 |	
	      |		 |
	      |		 |
              |lake	 |
              |	   	 |
	      |	  	 |
	      ___________|

		Marine base

 Drawings a bit crude but hey it's only a computer...



FROM THE WEST:

	Take 290 East to the Grafton St. Posner sq. exit. Bear right off the
exit you're now on Grafton St. Follow straight up make a half moon around
the rotary you're now on Hamilton St. Stay straight on Hamilton St till you
reach Boston Ave. Take a right on to Boston Ave at the top of Boston Ave a
right on to Glezen St. 3rd house down on the left...



			-290-----------|
			               |
              			       |<- grafton st
               			       |
           			      (  )church
          			      (  )
             			       |
                house	|	church |<-hamilton st
              		|<-glezen      |
                        |--------------|
                               ^
                               |-boston ave


 From Grafton take rt122 into worcester. At the South Plaza shopping center
 (building 19, Stuarts, etc) take a right at the Burger King follow the
 twisting turning road and take your third right after the S-bend this is
 Glezen St.

 Anyone using the mass pike take the Pike to exit 11 Worcester/Milbury exit.
 at the end of the exit take a left and follow the above direction for the
 folks from Grafton...

 Mike

  >  BTW - I am bringing my rollerblades. Better watch it hawk, I may just
  >  blade into your bar and embarrass you.
  
	I was hoping to be able to make it, but my Little League team
has 2 makeup games Sunday afternoon. Shoot, I woulda like to have
tried them rollerblades. Scary thought, huh JOJ ? :^)

	Jim M

    Mike, that ain't no steenkin' football field!  That's a rugby pitch!

    For those Magic/Parish/Doc J. fans... "I B dare..."
    
    -Walt

    I'm looking forward to this...btw, Dinz has formally challenged me to
    a 1-on-1 game. 
    
    Now, I've already explained to him that I have a sore right ankle, a bruised
    left knee, and a broken thumb on my left hand. Since I'm injury riddled
    at the moment, I can't guarantee a 5 hoop victory in a game to 15. But,
    if we play to 21, injuries and all, I'll beat him by at least 5.
    
    He's lucky I'm injured or I'd shut him out.
    
    JoJ

otay Walt...hahhaa MAc so seeing you know where this rugby pitch is are you
 going to show???

    Wardle_Blade and I will be crashing Hawk's fern bar after work on
    Monday if anyone wants to join us.  Hawk promised he'd replace the
    Coronas with Rolling Rock, just for the occasion.
    
    He also promised to keep the goldfish crackers, brie and nachos out of
    our faces.
    
    Mark.

Mac probably won't show (althought I can't speak for him) but I know he's
playing in the CT Cup the day before.

I, on the other hand, might show (and probably will)....  I suck at hoops
though.  But, if you want a big guy to REALLY clear things out under the
rim, let me know 8^)

'Saw

    	Dinz, the dancers at the Magic Lantern don't take scratch tickets
    for tips.  Bring a few ones this time.
    
    				/Don

    
    Mark,
    
    	You'd better be careful about *meeting* WardleVane.  He
    	tends to not show (like at his own going away get together :*)  )
    
    Claybone

    I probably won't make it Sunday, Mike.  I was serious about tonight,
    though.  As 'Saw said, I'll be in Fairfield, CT all day Saturday for a
    rugby tournament.  As a result, I'm sure that quality time with the
    family will be required on Sunday.

 Quality Time or Time in Purgatory I can't always distinguish which is which
 can someone help me out here?

 :^)

    Wish I could join you guys!  Everyone knows that Iceman is the only
    noter that is better than me at hoops ;-)

 Well guys I found out what happened Dan payed my kids off yesterday to
 take me out of the room!!!!!

 They showed me the beaten up nickle that he had given them and told them
 to split.

 background: Hoops was fun full court some great play, some laughers, the
 usually. Doc did have one spectacular up and under scoop for a hoop (send
 check to my house Doc. What was it a week's pay ;^)?) The Buckmiester was
 hot outside, JoJ had on Don's favorite colors and Dinz was still blowing
 open layups anyways I lug the mugs back to my house for chow. Being the
 good host I'm cooking and tied up and not watching the game. Dan's holding
 center court in my living room about his beloved Lakers (Dinz's was vaining
 and rooting for the lakers) crying about the calls whilst the Lakers are
 going to line double what Chi-town was.

 4th quarter starts I finally sit down to watch the Bulls wipe out the lead
 take the lead etc. Fully convinced now that the Karma between me and Dan
 has sent the vibes to Michael and the boys I'm poised for a Bulls win. Under
 a minute left and suddenly my kids whom I've been trying to feed for the
 last hour or so are mysteriously hungry now. I get their food together
 whilst Perkins hit the three to win it....

 After the guys left I start to blast the kids from distracting me during 
 the game when they produced the evidence, THE NICKLE!!! and told me the
 details....

 ;^)

 mike

Dan, you cheap bastard.  A nickel?  A nickel?  Jeez, I'd have given them
EACH a buck, at least!  8^)

Sorry I couldn't make it guys.  Saturday turned out to be hotter, longer,
and more taxing than I'd planned on, plus some things came up that had to
be taken care of yesterday.

Still, I wished I'd have been there to see Dan pay off Mikey's kids, and
give them that sly Dan Schneider "We're all in this together" wink ....


hahahahahahaha....

'Saw

    re .408
    
    Vlade Heiser a hoops ace. 4-get it !
    
    re .409
    
    Mike, I had at least 3 or 4 FAN-tastical drives to the hole, at least
    one of them over you. So I'll send you a dollar ... :-)
    
    I've got to say Jim (aka JoFB - that's Jim on Fast Breaks) was fun to
    play with when we got out on the break ... Wardle as a trigger man
    (perfect place for a wagon-jumper to be - you can ride the hot man (ie.
    ME) :-), your's truly on the wing ...favernugen .... :-)
    
    Oh yeah, I still belive you're schitzo Mike ... the Worthy 'do, the
    Magic post-up moves (but not results), and the Celtic bias ... you need
    help homeboy ! :-)
    
    Oh yeah, here are three rules of nature :
    
    1) Never eat at a place call Mom's
    
    2) Never play cards with a man called "Doc" (not me)
    
    3) And never, ever with a game riding on the line ....
    
    and I mean NEVER
    ......
    
    
    Let Dinz finish off a fast break before he breaks a SERIOUS sweat !!!!!
    
    :-) :-0 :-)
    
    Doc

    I think Dan was very resourceful. Hail if the labor is worth a nickle
    you pay it a nickle. Way to go Dan! 8^)
    
    wasn't it great that the Best Player in the NBA choked while a
    journeyman forward who was given a second chance canned the 3 to win
    it!

                       <<< Note 19.411 by SASE::SZABO >>>
    >                     -< Which cd was that, Mark? >-
    
    REM, "Document".
    
    Mark.

     some day, i will practice those  layups.. the DOC aint that bad a guy 
    
    after all..  :))
    
    dinz
    

    Told you Dinz, stop shooting those layups in lowercase ! :-)

    Shirley t'was a mosted memorial time for this ol' main too.
    
    Of course I DID feel like a 'shroom in the forest allus looking
    up at kneecaps et al!  :*(
    Lookin back, I'm pretty glad I didn't try (too often) to out-rebound
    yuz all. (What FOUL?? Me????? No Blood, No Bruises  = no foul!!)
    
    
    Hey Doc 00:00 - I wuz wonderin if those "PUMP ME UP's" were yours
    or did ya rent'em from EZ rents just fer us????
    
    Before anybody gets da idea that 00:00 is a_ok B'ball player, ya
    gots to remember that it is RELATIVE-to-the-UNFORTUNATE guy who'z
    trying to defend him (wink).
    
    Walt kept muttering somthang about some kids stealing one of his
    red Cons and replacing it wif a blue one......I did overhear him
    expressing thanks that the little bugger left the correct size though....
    
    ....there was a-eyewitness confirming that DiNz REALLY DOESN'T type
    better than he plays B_Ball (:^>)!!!! Also, the DiNz KOD on LALA
    yesttiday was neutralized by the overpowering SCHNIEDcheer!!
    
    All in all, after a few aspirins, 2 tubes Ben-Gay, a_introvenous,
    and a hot-bath, this mornings stiffness and soreness isn't too bad.
    I could be DAID!!!  
    
    T'was mucho fun.  
    
    Kev
    
    
    

 >    yuz all. (What FOUL?? Me????? No Blood, No Bruises  = no foul!!)

Kev, sounds like you need to play some rugby.  With an attitude like that,
you'd fit right in....

'Saw

    'Saw,
    
    Too bad ya wussed out.  I kept my dollar seven real closeby until
    the very end.  On the way home, we parted ways as I became the proud
    owner of a BRAND SPANKIN NEW tube of BEN-GAY!  
    
    Too bad for you - it woulda payed for the tolls home!
    
    Ya also missed seein the dramatic entrance of the guest (?) of 'onor
    
    - JoDB (Jim on Damaged Body) - busted toe, broken finger, 'lectric
    pink (to cover blood) 1/2 shirt, and all the other stuff he told
    ya about lasted(tm) week.  T'was a pity to see the pool fella
    hobble around the court, constructing a wall here, a wall there.  Why
    after a few moments, it looked like a maze out there!!!!!
    
    BTW - Didja know that Schneid gots religion????  Man-o-man, does that
    guy repent a LOT!!!!  He forced us ta watch one of them religious
    don't-call, send money Hallelujja stations at 30 second intervals
    (or more frequently when one o' Mikey's fruits-from-the loins entered
    the room.
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev
    

    re: "..fit right in..."
    
    Yeah, I know what you mean.  Like when we "skins" were packing the
    paint for the eventual rebound provided by JoAB (Jim-on-Air Ball),
    I looked around and all I could see was male alvioli - right at eye
    level!  I felt like I was a t-shirt ready for one of those old
    fashoned washing machine rollers!  SQUISH!
    
    I know you caint identify with me in this one, and I'm not saying I'm
    short or anything like that but I gotta ask ya, "do elevators smell
    diffently to you than they do to me? Or are you the cause of them
    smellin diff'rent?  ;^)
    
    Me play Rigby???  Naw, that's a game for sissies. Real men play
    hardtop basketball with a slew of injuries - just like JoDB!  Why
    I'll bet that guy who got the busted wrist wouldn'ta played - he
    should see how JoDB sets a_example of playing with damaged goods!
    many ;^)
    
    Kev
    

Don't worry Mac....

Hey, it's very rare that I no-show.  Mike Childs will tell you that most
times if I'm not gonna go to one of his get togethers I tell him, or I just
don't respond.

And being short is what being a hooker is all about.  Tony Flay, the
Eagles hooker ain't all that big.  Plus his ears stick way out (that's a
minus for a hooker).  Kev, I'll bet your ears don't stick out all that
much!

Bobbie Bates couldn't have played yesterday.  He's got a cast from finger
tips to just below his armpit.  NASTY break -- I saw the X-Rays.  They
had to knock him out to set it...

We were bustin' on him though, because he's a State Trooper, and now he
has to a) use a left handed holster at the desk job he's gonna have till
he heals, b) find a way to drink coffee, eat donuts and drive at the same
time 8^)

FWIW, he WAS playing that game with two busted ribs though....


And Kev, when all about you is Gonad City, that's the time for a good ol
Head Butt!


'Saw

Okay, here's the deal:

On the weekend of July 13th, JD will be back in these here parts.

So, here it is:


	Party for JD at Saw's House.


If we have enough people we can play some football.  There'll probably be
a couple of ruggers there too, so if anyone is man enough after football,
we'll teach you how to play 7s (right Mac?)

The deal is this:

	o Bring your own Burgers and/or Dogs (or steak for all I care)
	
	o Bring yourselves

	o Bring any yuppie beers you want

I supply:

	o The grill

	o A couple of cases of manly American beers (READ THAT Miller, Bud)

	o Condiments (Ketchup, Relish, Mustard etc etc etc etc)

	o Other bullshit as needed for the cookout.


I'll pick up the dog poop outta the yard and we can have some fun.

(Sorry, but the back pasture is for hay this summer.  No cows grazin 8^(  )


I'll post directions as the time gets closer.  If you want to attend, please
send me some VAXmail, even if you reply in here....


See you there,
'Saw

PS  Kev, bring yourself, leave your $1.07 at home, and I'll show you all
    my rugby pictures....

    'Saw, we should probably start 'em of with touch 7s.  We wouldn't want
    to scare off those softball/touch football/roller bladin' types.

    'Saw,
    Just wanna clarify a leetle tiny point - 
    
    'nad City was @ elbow height.  How do you think I was able to clear out
    an area for unmolested rebounds??  ;^0
    
    THIS GENTLEMAN DOES NOT DO HEAD MOVEMENTS INTO GONAD TERRITORY!!!
    
    'nipple city was at head height.
    
    HTH,
    
    Kev
    

OH.  I understand.

No reflection on you, Kev, but from reading the other tales of great exploits
in here, I figured that they're vertical leaping ability was greater than
you've stated.

I kind of figured we were talking Spud vs Manute, instead of Spud vs
Tiny Archibald.....

many 8^)
'Saw

    No Spud here Saw, more a case of 1/3 Elgin Baylor, 1/3 Earl Monroe, and
    1/3 Jerry West ....

>    No Spud here Saw, more a case of 1/3 Elgin Baylor, 1/3 Earl Monroe, and
>    1/3 Jerry West ....


 and Ali's mouth squared!!!

 ;^)

    'Saw,
    
    Lemme 'splain...
    
    In the beginning, twas true they had a great advantage - sort of like
    giant redwood trees with giant branches reaching out towards the
    sunlight, effectively blocking out the tiny sapling.
    
    Then a chipmunk started hammering away at a "knot" in the trunk
    thereby causing the giant branches to drop lower and lower as they
    tried to protect the "knot" from further damage by the pest.  This
    also caused the giant redwood to "stoop" down and allow sunlight to
    fall upon the tiny sapling and neutralized the physical difference!
    
    And so it later became a Spud vs. Tiny match or, "The Battle Of the
    Aged".....
    
    ;^)
    
    Kev
    

    Mike,
    
    Re: Ali squared comment
    
    Be kind and understanding 'cause here's the rest of the story.
    
    Do remember my_AWESOME_SHUT-HIM_DOWN defense on 00:00?  Runnin him
    ragged down the sidelilnes shutting off his passing?  My totally
    neutralizing his dodge and wheeling and how he was sweatin bullets?
    Do you also remember all those special iced-water bottles?
    
    Well, now the truth may be told - 
    
    I put a batch of powdered 'shrooms into the Dr.'s water.  The solution
    was chemically altered to have a delayed effect on the brain for
    precisely 18 hours.  What we are all seeing is that he "thinks he
    remembers" which doesn't necessarily reflect what really happened.
    
    Be Kind....
    
    many ;^)
    
    Kev
    

    Doc -
    
    You're lucky I wasn't playing.  First time you drove the lane and tried
    anything fancy, I'd dump you on your keester.  I don't believe in touch
    fouls.  I play the game like Action Jackson - cept I hve a Bernard King
    spin move no one stops.
    
    JD

    JD,
    
    Your comment on Action Jackson brought back a memory I had
    on "The Hacker".  Remember he had the longest reach and the pushed
    in chest look (Like McHale?) and his style of defense was to flail
    his arms around like a windmill and anybody who tried to get near him
    was usually chopped real bad on the forearms?
    
    Famous saying "No briuse, no foul"
    
    Ah loved "Da Hacker" cause he tried to play defense without
    intentionally hurting.  
    
    Kev
    

I was referring to Kev as Spud, Doc.  To hear him tell it he was the shortest
of the bunch....


If you ain't bleedin', you ain't playin the game right.  Down here at lunch
time, we don't call fouls unless you tackle the guy, and there's no minutes
for injury unless there's blood.

And of course, like Jesse said in Predator, "I ain't got time to bleed!"


So who's makin' the road trip to the SawMill??????

'Saw

    Saw Predator for the umpteenth time last night.  Fun flick.
    
    Mark.

    re .432
    
    If you play defense like Phil "LSD" Jackson (according to Bob Ryan, he
    admitted to an 8 hour LSD trip in his youth -caint say I'm suprised),
    then I'll get my points at the line ....

    re .435
    
    Saw, he was about the shortest guy out there. I would have posted,
    'cept that Mike pulled out that Celtic 2-3 zone, and I usually got
    doubled anytime I got past the top of the key. Luckily, JoHC (Jim on
    Half-Court) and I picked them apart with our crisp passing, then
    Buckmeister drilled some "post-dated" bank shots from the parking lot,
    and the rest was due to soem feroicious offensive rebounding, and a few
    4-D moves by me ...
    
    BTW, Walt's shoe could only be viewed with 3-D glasses ...

             <<< Note 19.423 by CAM::WAY "Ruck till you puke..." >>>
    >And being short is what being a hooker is all about.  
    
    No comments on that one?  Wow...
    
    Can't make the 13th, I'll be in Montreal or Saratoga...
    
    Good game yesterday.  None of this "I was driving to the hoop and
    someone looked at me, so it must have been a foul" crap.  No forearm
    shivers or hips, but what can you do?  Piston rules in full effect.
    We must have all be scum I guess...
    
    Doc:  From what I heard, it was more 1/3 Wingo, 1/3 Mengelt, and 1/3
    Nimphius... (cool do though...)
    
    Good to see Riles have to blow dry that hair on Weds...
    
    Thanks for everything Mike.  I wonder if Bucky B still repenting with
    Torrid Tori...
    
    Any coincedence that neither John Hendry or A&W showed up?  (I don't
    know, Kevin asked someone to start that topic up again...)
    
    -Walt
    

    I don't know where A&W was but I was at the beach.
    
    John

    I was out at Olde Sturbridge Village, watching the genetic derivative
    learn how to shear sheep.  
    
    A&W

Well, I don't hold with that.

I mean, when a man and a sheep get together like that, it should be a private
thang.....

Did he have a cigarette afterwards???? 

many 8^)


'Saw

    
    	Hah!  I toldja!!!!!!!!!!
    
    	Claybone

    Yeah, Claybroon, I shoulda listened.  That's the last time I change my
    schedule to meet Wardle.
    
    Mark.

 Looks like I'll be in Spit Brook aka Phlegm Creek for the nexted two
 weeks.   Any of you upper New Englanders want to get together ???  
 
 Bosox in town ???   Rugby matches ???   Any sports bars for the NBA
 Finals ???
 
 Bob Hunt

    
 > Bosox in town ???  
    
    Through what date, Bob?  The Red Sox return next weekend and I gots my
    usual three seats up front in the centerfield bleachers the 15th and
    16th.  Was anybody else planning on going out to the Fens that weekend?
    
    glenn
    

    If you're here on the 21st, the Boston Shootout begins that
    day.  See some of the best High School bb players in the country
    compete.  Lasted year, James Forrest and Juwan Howard, two of the
    top 5 players in the country this year, played in the tourney as
    juniors.  They should be back.  Four games Firday, four Saturday,
    and three SUnday, including the slam dunk and 3-point contests.
    
    NAZZ 

Bob, I live up in that neck of the woods and may be persuaded to curl 
a few pitchers whilst watching the FANtastic finals! 


Steve

>Not that I don't believe the Doctor mind you but could someone in 
>here verify that Doc did indeed dominate the game Russell style? 
    
    I got there late after my softball double dip, and Doc predictably
    high-tailed it outa there when he saw me approaching the court.  He did
    hang around long enough for me to see him launch one of the
    god-awfulest jump shots in modern hoops history.  About 14 feet out,
    wide open (and I noticed they always left him wide open, in sort of a
    "Let Greg Kite shoot" defense) he bricked one off of the right side of
    the backboard about 2 feet from the rim.
    
    Sad.
    
    Dan

    NBA Finals action is always on at my place.  Even during the off nights
    of this years finals, I pop in my tapes of the '85 and '87 finals just
    for laughs.
    
    Dan

    The Collegiate Interterritorial Tournament (ITT) is being held at Daly
    Field in Brighton, MA on June 15&16.  This tournament will feature all
    star teams for each of the 4 US Rugby Territories.  The following
    weekend (June 21), the US Collegiates will take on the Canda Under-23s
    at the same location.
    
    I'm planning on going to at least the ITT since a friend of mine from
    Austin will be playing for the Western Territory.

Bob, if you were serious about the rugby, there is a 7s match on
Saturday, June 15th, at Columbus Park, South Boston from 9am -6pm.

I don't know the format of the tournament, but Guiness is sponsoring it,
and I believe that a 7s team from Hartford might be going up.

7s is a faster paced version of rugby played with 7 men, in two 7 minute
halves with a one minute halftime.  It's fun to play and watch...

I can't give directions because I don't know them, but I'm sure some
of the Boston-ites could help you out....

Might be something to check out before going to Fenway 8^)


'Saw

PS  Admission is FREE

>   I'm planning on going to at least the ITT since a friend of mine from
>    Austin will be playing for the Western Territory.

Is that the guy from the calendar, Mac?


I'd forgotten about that tournament.  Bob, that's a full fifteen tournament,
and as Mac said, it's the cream of the college crop.....

'Saw

    >I'll send directions if you're interested... 
    
    Ask JoNS (No Show) for directions.  He sent them to me for our alleged
    get together.
    
    Mark.
    

 I'm in for the shootout on friday or sunday, saturday I got a golf tournment..

 mike

    marcus,
    
    Mr. WARDLE TOLD ME PER A PHONE CONVERSATION THAT THE NO SHOW
    
    MADE UP FOR YOUR NO-SHOW IN CXO..
    
    DINZ
    

         <<< Note 19.461 by COBRA::DINSMORE "living for the moment" >>>
                              -< RELAYER OF NEWS >-

>    marcus,
>    
>    Mr. WARDLE TOLD ME PER A PHONE CONVERSATION THAT THE NO SHOW
>    
>    MADE UP FOR YOUR NO-SHOW IN CXO..
>    
>    DINZ
    
    Hmmm, that's interesting considering that Wardle had already moved out
    of Colorado by the time of my first visit there.
    
    Tell him to try again.
    
    Mark.

    	I'm up for the shootout on Sunday.  Hell we can get tickets
    at the box office that day.  I had a few beers with JoJ last night
    at some fern bar that Dan Schneider suggested.  Guess who didn't
    show after guiding us to this yuppie joint?  Yup old Dan hisself.
    
    				/Don
    
    	P.S. Dan, I got a warm six pack of Rolling Rock in the car.
             I'll give it to you next time we meet.

    Hawk, Dan sent me a note asking if I wanted to go.  I politely
    declined, cuz I didn't feel like getting stiffed again.  Looks like I
    made a good decision.
    
    If you see Wardle, remind him how I sent him mail on Monday asking to
    reschedule due to a conflict.  Thank him for not responding, and ask him
    if I was wrong to assume we were still supposed together since he
    didn't answer my mail.
    
    Mark.

    	Mark, JoJ said he forgot about you.  I can see how that can
    happen.  Dan was supposed to put a note in here because the network
    at the Mill was so bad yesterday, but I guess he blew that off too.
    
    				/Don

    The Ground Round, formerly Brambles........Good Guiness on tap

    
re .452
    
>    I got there late after my softball double dip,
    
    Uh huh ... like you didn't know what time we'd play. 
    
>  He did hang around long enough for me to see him launch one of the
>  god-awfulest jump shots in modern hoops history.  
    
    You really need to lay off those SPORTSROOMS
    
>    About 14 feet out, wide open 
    
    Probably because we were between games ...
        
>    Sad.
 
    Not nearly as sad as the way you're CYA from that roasting you got
    after I left - Slasher filled me in on all the gory details.
    
    You should thank me fro leaving - it is the only way your were going to
    get on the court - HAHHAHAHAHAAA !!!!
    
    Doc
    

    Hey, Hawk, it wasn't my doing.  I would have insisted you be there!  By
    the way, we were meeting at Crossroads Cafe in Acton.  But those
    wusses, JoJ and /Don left before I got there.  Well post softball game
    activities went a little late, and I didn't get there till about 11 or
    so, so I really didn't expect them to hang around...
    
    /Don, I changed my mind.  I'll go for the Dos Equis again.  Thanks.
    
    Dan

    	Dan, you'll get the now flat Rolling Rock and like it!

    Here's the info on the Shootout:
    
    19th Annual Boston Shootout - Fri-Sun, June 21, 22, 23
    
    FRIDAY, JUNE 21 - at BOSTON UNIVERSITY
    
    3:00 - Game 1:  WASHINGTON, DC vs NEW ORLEANS
    4:45 - Game 2:  ATLANTA vs CHICAGO
    6:30 - Game 3:  NEW YORK vs OAKLAND
    8:15 - Game 4:  BOSTON vs PITTSBURGH
    
    SATURDAY, JUNE 22 - at BOSTON UNIVERSITY
    
    10:30 - Game 5:  Game 2 loser vs Game 3 loser
    12:00 - Game 6:  Game 1 loser vs Game 4 loser
    
    1:30 - SLAM DUNK CONTEST AND 3-POINT SHOT CONTEST PRELIMINARIES
    
    2:45 - Game 7, SEMIFINALS:  Game 2 Winner vs Game 3 Winner
    4:30 - Game 8, SEMIFINALS:  Game 1 Winner vs Game 4 Winner
    
    SUNDAY, JUNE 23 - at BOSTON GARDEN
    
    10:30 - Game 9, FIFTH PLACE GAME:  Game 5 Winner vs Game 6 Winner
    12:00 - Game 10, THIRD PLACE GAME:  Game 7 loser vs Game 8 loser
    
    1:30 - SLAM DUNK CONTEST AND 3-POINT SHOT CONTEST FINALS
    
    2:30 - GAME 11, CHAMPIONSHIP GAME:  Game 7 Winner vs Game 8 Winner
    
    NAZZ

    /Don...
    
    I would have shut down the Joe Dumars wannabees, but they were on my
    team... I set them up to make them look good instead...

    
    Nazz,  Do you have any of the Big names that are going to be there?
    
    - Ken -

    Won't that be wonderful - the Shootout is being held at Boston
    University at the same time as the Shriners All-Star Football Game
    (which I'll be working at).  The BU area will be a mess!
    
    The following people have sent me checks for Tiger Mania:
    
    Glenn Waugaman	1
    Walt Ashe		1
    Paul Yankowskas	2
    Don Robichaud	4
    Karen Derry		2
    Mike Childs		4
    Dick Hamel		2
    Mark Lefebvre	2
    
    That's 18 tickets.  I'll be going so that'll be 19.
    
    I'm going to the game on July 4 and it's most likely that I'll get the
    tickets for TigerMania then.  Deadline is hereby extended.
    
    John
    
    PS - Walt and /Don, no word from Bucky yet

    Hey dan,
    Re. .453
    
    I like your style,man. Whilst you are watching reruns of the '85 and
    '87 NBA finals tapes on finals off-nights, I was doing the same thing
    with my '83-'90 Notre Dame-USC tapes.
    
    Tis a thrilling re-experience!
    
    MikeL
    

    Re .476 Big names at the shootout -
    
    Ken, I can't recall the name, but I think it has 11 letters in it.
    
    :*)
    
    Lee

Lee, you disappointed me.

You gave a SUPERB ANSWER, but forget to put the obligatory

		Hope this helps

In there.


Please don't make an omission like that again.  There are people in here
who count on you!

thanks,
phoe shit schlep,
'Saw

    
            Hey Hawk,
             You mean Christopher's in Leominstah?
    
            Melster

    As one who knows, the place is packed on Mondays, so get there early
    and often.
    
    Mark.

    It's a free night for me, Hawkster.  You gonna post directions?
    
    Dan

    Dan's going?  I'm busy.
    
    Mark.

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    This is one of my favorite CDs of all time!  If I didn't already have
    it on tape, album and CD, I'd snatch this one up in a second.  I
    heartily recommend buying it.  "Mandy" is truly incredible.  Barry is a
    musical genius and after years of trying, my hair is exactly like his
    now.
    
    Mark.
                                                                        

    Don't have the preliminary rosters yet, but I do know that Eric
    Brunson is on the Boston team, but Travis Best is not.
    
    I should know the preliminary rosters by the end of this week.
    I'll put them in here when I get them.
    
    NAZZ

    Okay, so what's wrong with Barry Manilow?
    
    Mark.

    "I Write the Songs" used to be my favourite song when I was 9 or 10.

    If someone wants to pick me up in Worcester and then bring me back
    home, I'm up for it.
    
    Haverhill is a long way to drive to have a few drinks.

    Mac, not if you live there!  :*)
    
    Hawk, I wish I had known, I would have dropped in.  I was in class all
    day at ACO, with no access for checking notes.  Damn.
    
    Lee

    Deadline is now sooner.  I'm going to the Sox game on June 23 and plan
    to pick up the tickets then.  The only person to have responded to my
    last note is Hawk so I'll assume, unless I hear otherwise, that the
    list is finalized.  Walt and /Don, I never heard back from Bucky so I
    assume he's not interested.
    
    John

 Christopher's in Haverhill in a real nice place.   Highly recommended. 
 The seafood was excellent but the "service" was a little slow.  Plus the
 bartender gives you that classic "Better not be wastin' my precious time
 with a candy ass little tip!" stare whenever you politely ask him just to
 refill your glass.  :-) :-) :-)
 
 Dan and I swapped stories about growing up on the Jersey Shore, the
 Yankees, the Phillies, the Celtics, the Sixers, the Lakers, road trips,
 Dr. J, the Nets, Michael Jordan, SPORTS get-togethers, the Hornets, T,
 college days, Knorr's ticket contest, the Red Sox, Magic Johnson, hoops,
 minor league baseball, and, oh yes, Dean Smith.
 
 And, yes, Hawk and Dan now have an even finer appreciation of the "assets"
 of the Paper Doll Lounge in Charlotte.
 
 For the record, Dan insists that his motives are pure when it comes to
 defending Snuffy and that he's just an innocent bystander in all this
 North Carolina hoohaa here in SPORTS.   I immediately reached for my
 wallet to make sure it was still firmly wedged in my back pocket.  :-)
 
 Dan and I also agreed that the Hornets should take Larry Johnson and
 should leave Billy Owens for the Nets because Dan wants to see Derrick
 Coleman and Billy Owens reunited and I want to see JR Reid with a plane
 ticket outta town.
 
 A nice night out with two "old and new" friends ...   That's the true
 beauty of SPORTS ... You can meet an "old" friend for the very first time.
 
 Bob Hunt

	So does anybody still want to go to the Boston Shootout.  I would 
like to go Sunday at the Garden but would rather skip the first consolation 
game and get there around noon.

				/Don

    Ninj, Bucky cain have my extra ticket if he should decide to go.
    
    Mark.

  I'm still game for the Shootout 6/23....

 mike

    I'd like to go to the shootout, but I have doubleheaders on Sunday
    mornings.  What's the Sunday schedule like and is the seating GA?
    
    Dan
    

    Well, my access to CAM:: is so slow, I'm gonna avoid reading the last
    100 or so replies....
    
    My trip last week got a most excellent start. Worcester blacktop hoops
    and another excelllent BBQ at the Childs' house. (Thanks Mike, really
    had a good time). 
    
    The Hoops match between me and Dinz never materialized. Too many guys
    waiting to play so we couldn't hog a hoop for a 1-on-1. Dinz ended up
    covering me in the game and so I had an easy time of it. Doc "NoShow"
    showed up and pretty much embarassed the guy that was trying to cover
    him. He threw up this "Jordan-esque" scoop shot that just kind of spun
    into the hoop.
    
    He and I were on the same team, and whenever I pulled in a rebound I
    found Doc breaking for the fast break. We had no trouble running the
    opposition ragged.
    
    Me and Bucky played Mike and Dinz later and went up 2 games to 1 in our
    on-going match.
    
    Later, we hit Mike's for some burgers. The only downside was Dan
    doing his Laker-Girl imitation after Jordan missed the last shot and
    the Lakers won what will probably be their only win.
    
    Monday I had dinner with Dinz. I highly recommend never doing this.
    Dinz has gotten a little too "touchy-feely". He spent the entire dinner
    trying to analyze me. It really sucked.
    
    Wednesday, Dan "the new mr. no show" was supposed to meet me and /Don
    at some fern bar to watch the game....but he never showed. /Slasher and
    I drank some yuppie beer and had something to eat....and dragged Dan
    through the mud for not showing up.
    
    Pretty good trip overall...seems like I forgot something but I can't
    recall what it was.
    
    JoJ 

JoJ --

And why is it that you object so to being analyzed?

Do you feel self-conscious about that?  Do you feel that you might
be projecting your uneasy feelings onto the Dinz, and blaming him
for your lack of self-analysis skills?

Tell us about your mother.  What was your relationship with her like?


Dr. 'Saw

    
>    Pretty good trip overall...seems like I forgot something but I can't
>    recall what it was.
    
    Give you a hint...
    
    Mark.

    The Bruins schedule came out today.  A couple of alternatives for a
    Fall or Winter get-together at Boston Garden Southwest (a/k/a the
    Hartford Civic Center) are apparent:
    
    Sat Nov 16	Boston at Hartford	735
    Sat Jan 25	Boston at Hartford	135
    
    No, I'm not volunteering to organize this one since I'm doing
    TigerMania V.
    
    John

    I'll be at the Shootout all three days, doing the stats.  I'm using
    my personal holiday to get outta here Friday.  
    
    COme down to the table and say hello if you make it.
    
    BTW, I should have a list of the tentative rosters to post in here
    tomorrow.
    
    NAZZ

    
    re: Travis
    
    	I was wondering the same thing.  I can think of two possible 
    reasons but I've heard nothing official here in his hometown of 
    Springfield.
    
    	One could be that Travis is a busy man.  Every summer since he
    was in 8th grade, Travis has spent his summer running all over the
    country to different camps and exhibitions.  Chances are that he won't
    be in town during that time.
    
    	Second reason could be that Travis was not invited.  Is there a
    certain radius that they choose from?  I can understand kids from right
    around Boston being on the Boston team, but Travis lives 80 miles from
    Boston.  Could it of had something to do with geography?
    
    	Oh yea, a third reason is maybe he doesn't want to play in it.
    Maybe he's trying to get ready for his first season at Tech and might
    not want to risk getting hurt.  
    
    	Whatever the reason, I haven't heard anything around town as to
    why he isn't playing.  Wish he was though.
    
    
    							bill..g.
    

    Keep me posted, I'm still interested... 
    
    -Walt (still playing catchup)

    Walt, how do you play "catchup"?  I've heard of "relishing" something,
    "salting" something away for a rainy day, but I've never heard of
    "catchup", or even "mayonnaised".
    
    Knead to no.
    
    lEe

 Well I'm definately up for the shootout got the babysit and all. Where and at
 what time do we all want to meet?

 mike

    One final reminder:
    
    I plan to get tickets for Sox-TigerMania on Sunday, June 23.  The game
    itself is Wednesday, October 2.  If any of you still want to go and
    haven't gotten me your check yet, please do so ASAP, otherwise, you're
    out of luck.
    
    John

    	Mike Childs and I are going to the Shootout together Sunday.
    We're leaving his house Sunday at 11.  Anybody else going?
    
    				/Don

    >	Mike Childs and I are going to the Shootout together Sunday.
    
    Oh boy!  Which one gets to be the Guy?
    
    Mark.

    	Hey Lufay...
    
    	Go do a deer!

    Here are all the rosters (except for New York - they're notorious
    for bringing whoever is hanging around the neighborhood that day)
    for the Boston Shootout, which starts tomorrow.
    
    			ATLANTA
    
    1) Ryan Amestoy	6-6	Clemson
    2) Greg Anderson	6-6	Mississippi St	In Top 20 small forwards
    3) Terrell Bell	6-10	junior
    4) Dathon Brown	6-6	Georgia
    5) James Forrest	6-8	Georgia Tech	3rd rated PF in nation
    6) Keith LeGree	6-2	Louisville	5th rated PG in nation
    7) Reginald Manuel	6-3	UNLV		4th rated SG in nation
    8) Carlos Strong	6-9	junior
    9) Octavius Thomas	6-1	junior
    10) Sharone Wright	6-10	Clemson		4th rated center in nation
    
    			BOSTON
    
    1) Robert Bailey	6-1	Boston University
    2) Eric Brunson	6-4	Temple		2nd rated SG in nation
    3) Jamal Jackson	6-5	junior
    4) Timothy Ketter	6-5	Bridgeton Academy
    5) Adrian Machado	6-8	Bridgeton Academy
    6) Daniel Marshall	6-9	Assumption
    7) Hector Negron	5-11	junior
    8) Rigo Nunez	6-7	Mount Hermon Academy
    9) Bevan Thomas	6-8	Mount Hermon Academy
    10) Sean Williams	6-1	Kilgore JC
    
    			CHICAGO
    
    1) Robert Bennett	no information available
    2) Don Boyse	6-5	Colorado
    3) Skelly Clark	6-8	Iowa
    4) Nathan Driggers	no information available
    5) Mike Finlay	6-6	Wisconsin
    6) Sherrell Ford	6-7	Illinois-Chicago
    7) Juwan Howard	6-9	Michigan	#1 rated center in nation
    8) Tom Kleinschmidt	6-5	DePaul		#3 rated SF in nation
    9) Belifia Parks	6-2	undecided
    10) Darrick Patterson 6-7	Wisconsin
 
   
    			NEW ORLEANS
    
    1) Doug Annison	6-5	LSU
    2) Clarence Caesar	6-8	LSU
    3) Kerry Kittles	6-5	junior
    4) Randy Livingston 6-4	sophomore
    5) Curtis Raymon	6-7	Nichols State
    6) John Rondeno	6-2	undecided
    7) Patrick Savoy	6-8	Gulf Coast CC
    8) Duane Spencer	6-10	junior
    9) Scotty Thurman	6-5	junior
    10) Pointer Williams 6-1	Tulane
    
    			OAKLAND
    
    1) Kevin Dempsey	6-5	Arizona		In Top 20 small forwards
    2) John Duggan	6-7	junior
    3) Kevin Dunne	6-5	junior
    4) John Henry	6-6	Fordham
    5) Clayton Johnson	6-6	Pacific
    6) Doug Muse	6-9	UCSB
    7) Shawn Pennington	6-4	junior
    8) Chris Stone	5-11	Arizona State 
    9) Jerald Walker	6-1	junior
    10) Zuri Williams	6-1	Cal-Irvine
    
    			PITTSBURGH
    
    1) Dante Calabria	6-4	junior
    2) Casey Givener	6-1	junior
    3) George Harvey	6-4	undecided
    4) Malik Hightower	6-3	undecided
    5) Benjie Ingram	5-9	undecided
    6) Will Makon	6-7	DePaul		12th ranked PF in nation
    7) Terry O'Shea	5-11	junior
    8) Bruce Patterson	6-4	Midland JC
    9) Tom Pipkin	6-2	sophomore
    10) Randy Young 	6-5	undecided
    
    			WASHINGTON
    
    1) Irvin Church	6-2	Georgetown
    2) Robert Garner	6-1	Texas
    3) Lonnie Harrell	6-5	Georgetown
    4) Brian Leftwich	6-4	Princeton
    5) James Marshall	6-5	UTEP
    6) Tony Moore	6-8	junior
    7) Don Reid		6-9	Georgetown
    8) Johnny Rhodes	6-5	Maryland
    9) Brent Sherrill	6-6	Drake
    10) Brett Sherrill	6-6	Drake
    
    NAZZ
    

 I would guess the best available seats we can find when we get there Jeff.
 Naturally we'll buy the cheapies and move on down.....

 how about an agreed time to meet at the scorer table and say hi to Nazz???

    Sox tickets for October 2 have been purchased and are in the mail (with
    a couple of exceptions).  We have 2 complete rows in Section 43 and 4
    tickets in the row behind those 2 rows.
    
    John

Did you include a ticket for the inevitable inflatable guest?  

many 8^)


ok, ok, I couldn't resist!!!!!!


'Saw

    I hope you did better than Hawk and got us the winning tickets, and
    tickets to a winning game ;^).  You think we'll be able to find the
    right rows this time? ;^)

    re: .529
    
    Nope, 'Saw, because she didn't send me a check for her ticket. 
    Besides, she wouldn't last very long in the same crowd as the Ninja
    Patrol.
    
    John

 Thanks John, I'll get you a beer at the game if you promise not to let Dan
 sponge it off you...

 ;^)

    Excellent weekend of basketball, although the Boston team wasn't very
    strong.  They lost to a mediocre Pittsburgh team in the first round.
    
    New Orleans won the title, 92-87 over Chicago.  Randy Livinston, a 6-3
    SOPHOMORE point guard, was the MVP.  He has some unbelievable moves
    driving to the basket, and had NBA range on his 3-pointers.  For the
    three games, he averaged 26.7 ppg, 7.3 apg, 3.7 rpg, with 6 steals and
    3 blocks.  He was unbelievable.
    
    Juwan Howard from Chicago had another tremendous Shootout - in the
    first round, he totally dominated 6-10 Sharone Wright of Atlanta (going
    to Clemson).  Howard had 23 poipnts and 15 rebounds, while Wright had
    0 (that's right, zero) points and 4 rebounds.  For the tournament,
    Howard averaged 28.3 ppg and 17.7 rpg.
    
    Other performers of note in the tourney were Lawrence Moten of DC
    (going to Syracuse), Eric Brunson of Boston (he's a legit big-time
    player, but he had no support; going to Temple), two guys going to
    DePaul - Will Makon (6-7 F Pittburgh) and Tommy Kleinschmidt (6-5 F
    Chicago), James Forrest of Atlanta (6-8 F Georgia Tech), Don Boyce
    (6-5 Colorado) and Belefia Parks (6-1 Temple) of Chicago and Jamal
    Phillips (6-6 Rutgers) of New York.
    
    There were several other outstanding underclassmen bedises Livingston:
    Kerry Kittles and 6-10 Duane Spencer of New Orleans, Jamal Jackson and
    PG Hector Negron of Boston, 6-10 Terrell Bell of Atlanta, 6-4 Dante
    Calabria and 6-1 Casey Givener of Pittsburgh, 2-7 JOhn Duggan and 6-1
    Jerald Walker (who won the award for highest degrgee of difficulty on
    his shots!) from Oakland, and 5-10 PG Jermaine Brown of DC.
    
    Friday afternoon, the SHootout had to be moved from the Walter Brown
    Arena at BU upstairs to the Case Center (first time since 1979), since
    there was a lot of condensation on the floor from the ice that BU
    inexplicably left down.  One player slipped and sprained an ankle, so
    we moved everything upstairs at halftime of the first game.  It was a
    lot of fun being in a real gym - the place was packed, it was hot and
    sweaty, like a gym should be.  By Saturday, the Arena was safe again,
    so the semifinals were back downstairs.
    
    All in all, an excellent tournament, lots of talent, and lots of fun.
    
    NAZZ

	I was going to go to the Shootout Sunday but Mike Childs wimped out.
8^)  Actually I was broke and didn't mind not going.  You see after the 
Supreme Court decision on nude dancing last Friday I decided to conduct my 
own investigation on its affects on the local economy.  It was a time 
consuming and exhausting chore, but one I felt had to be done.

				/Don

    Thanks for the report Nazz.  My patience was rewarded ...
    
    Historically John Thompson has had alot of success recruiting in the
    New Orleans area.  Me_thinks he'll have his hands full going after some
    of the Cajun talent you mention - especially the high scoring guard. 
    JT's slow style should see that he goes to LSU, in all likelihood.
    
    Surprising that Wright got dominated so badly.  Dale Ellis can't be
    pleased, although I think he had at least one decent game.  (20+
    points.)
    
    
    - ACC Chris

       Don't believe the Slasher! He really spent Sunday with my hat! An
    excellent field trip /Don. Caint understand why you were broke though.
    You musta had at least 50 $1s on you Friday!
    
                                          Denny

    Anyone know if the main runway at Manchester airport has been fixed?
    
    I heard it was out of commission due to a sinkhole or something - and
    since I'm flying in there a few weeks from now, I was wondering about
    its status...
    
    Thanks,
    
    JD

Can't help ya with that JD.....


Okay, semi-final call for the get together at my place for 7/13.

I know JD will be there, and I've heard from a couple of others.  I'm 
gonna pick up some burgers for that day too, so if yer interested, please
let me know in here, by mail, whatever.....


thanks,
'Saw

    I'll be rolling into the merrimack/spit brook area on July 10, and
    staying til the 17th.   ANyone up for a get together.  I figure I could
    visit Hawk's yuppie fern bar one night.  AAnd on the 13th, Saw has
    mentioned have a bar-b-que at his house in Connect-I-Cut.
    
    ANyone want to get together for a brewski or two?  Perhaps have a good
    conversation about Doug Flutie, Cam Neely and Red Auerbach?
    
    JD

    JD, count me in.  Call me either at work (dtn 289-1333) or home
    (603-926-7455).
    
    We'll have to schedule a pose down.
    
    Mark.

Well, the cookout is *on* for the 13th, whether anyone comes or not 8^)

I'll post directions in here next week, but I'd really like to hear from 
anyone that's coming, so I can plan on what to get....

'Saw

    Saw -
    
    I'll be there.  
    
    Jeff -
    
    Don't know if I cain make it to Maynard - I'll have to see...
    
    JD

    'Saw -
    
    Ummmm - any idea when (as in time of day) your extravaganza will start
    and end?  I have to be in Mass until around 1 or 2, but would be
    willing to consider "dropping by" after that if anyone would still be
    around by the time I got there.........
    
    A&W

    	We still having a New England Giantsmanis in Foxboro on August
    24th?  Tom, Denny and myself have renewed out season sentences so
    we'll be there regardless.
    
    				/Don

    I will be there too so if y'all want help in organizing a group
    purchase of tickets, let me know.
    
    Ninj

    'saw,
    
    Looking forward to the bitty ride to the Nutmeg State since it doesn't
    look like my brother's gonna have a birthday party on Saturday.
    
    Inquiring minds and all that:
    
    How much floor space is being allocated per person if they get REAL
    tired and nobody from the Worcester area [;^)]?  Will we have to share 
    oxygen/CO2 wif the wolf?
    
    Should I bring the $1.07 or since you wimped out on us lasted month
    will it be "on the house"?
    
    Kev
    

Well, there's room for a couple anyway, if they get too plastered to make
the trek back home....

I'll have to see if I can dig out that rugby picture, since I don't have
it in the album yet...

I think Mac might be coming, but he's on VC until 7/10, so I'm not sure yet.



I'll post directions soon too....

'Saw

    Hawk -
    
    What nights do you tend bar at that Yuppie place in Hav-a-hill??
    
    Do you do it on Mon and Tues nights by any chance?  Nexted Tuesday
    looks like a good night for me to stop by and partake in a few
    libations.
    If not - nayone wanna get together nexted Tuesday night somewhere for a
    brew or two???
    
    I'm flying in today, so I'l monitor the notesfile tomorrow!
    
    JD

    I gots no plans for Tuesday night so I'll join in if I don't have to
    travel too fah.

    Good job, Squawk.  I learnt you real good.
    
    Mark.

    RE:  Devlin_Jo
    
    What about that bowling grudge match????????  I needs the money!
    
    RTG

For those attending on Saturday.  If yer coming from a different way,
get a map!  No seriously, send me some mail, and I'll get you started
a different way.......


Here's directions to the Sawmill....


	1. I-90 West to I-84 West (exit 9 I think)

	2. I-84 West to I-384 East (exit 59 I think, but it's clearly
	   marked.)  Be careful on the exit ramp (it's a long stretch
	   of two lane "highway" which runs into 384) because they
	   do radar on it.  Also radar on 384 quite often too.

	3. Take EXIT 5 off of I-384.  This is the CT Rt 85 exit.

	4. At the top of the exit ramp take a right. You are on Ct 85.

	5. 1 mile from the exit ramp, Ct 85 takes a 90 degree right.
	   Stay on Ct 85.  (i.e. take the right)

	6. Proceed to the stop sign.  At the stop sign, go straight.

	7. From the stop sign to my house is a straight shot, but it's
	   a long way so here are some landmarks.

		a. .5 mile from the stop sign, on the left is a
		   country story/liquor store.

		b. .5 mile beyond that, on the left, is Bolton Pizza.

	8. Approx 1.5 miles beyond Bolton Pizza, on the RIGHT, is the
	   entrance to Gay City State Park.  My house is exactly 1.5 miles
	   from there.

	9. After passing the entrance to the park, the road makes a sweeping
	   right hand curve, and goes up a hill.

       10. As you go down the other side of the hill, you'll see a pond
	   (it's a big as a lake, but locally it's known as a pond) on the
	   right hand side.

       11. Once you've seen the pond, start watching on the right for the
	   entrance to Tallwoods Country Club.  (Light Green sign on 
	   white wooden posts).

       12. My driveway is the next driveway on the right AFTER the entrance.
           Black mailbox, #85.

       13. If you miss my driveway, proceed straight for .5 mile.  The
	   road hits a T intersection (with a little rotary type affair)
	   and you can go around the island and come back.  Driveway is
	   your first left....

    JD and Ninj, I could be talked into a cupla quick brew-dogs on Tuesday
    if it's not too late.  I'd be willin' to drive down to Chemsfuhd.
    
    Mark.

    
    Well guys, Tuesday in >Chelmsford sounds fine by me - and Hawk - I may
    drop by tomorrow night to have a brew and talk to ya bout Ali, Neeley
    and softball...
    
    JD

    I'm cross-posting this from the Bruins file....if anyone is interested
    let the Cath-meister know.  Tickets are $18/each.
    
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Hey, hey, hey!


It's that time of year again folks!  Time to get psyched for hockey, as the 
pre-season is quickly sneaking up on us.

Last year I arranged for a group of us to go to the Philly vs. Boston preseason
game at the Centrum, and we had a great time!  

Well, for this year, my roommate (who works in Employee Services) arranged the
game - you might have seen the Flyers?  So, I don't have to do a darn thing!

Here are the specifics:

The Philadelphia Flyers vs. the Boston Bruins
Saturday, 14 September
7:30pm
The Centrum - Worcester, MA

If you'd all like to get together for the Second Annual Noters Preseason Game
Fiesta, there are plenty of seats available!  My roommate can seat us all in a
group and we can cheer the B's onto a win together!!

Here's what you'd have to do:

Order your tickets from Employee Services & Recreation.  That requires that you
fill out an Activity Request form and mail it, your check and a stamped, self
addressed envelope to - Employee Services & Recreation
                        P.O. Box 1009
                        W. Concord, MA  01742

Be sure to indicate that you are part of the noters group so she can seat you
with the rest of the crew!  If you have any questions, or can't find a form, 
send mail to ICS::FINUCANE and she'll help you out.  Orders MUST be received by
12 August!!!

Last year we all met up at the Firehouse for the "pregame warmups".  :-)  Any
ideas for this years' meeting place?


Joann
                                                     

    I'm interested...anyone else?
    
    Mark.

I would be except I've got a game that day and there's no way I could
make it there by game time......

'Saw

    I'll plan to be at the Chelmsford Ground Round Tuesday after work -
    just name the time.
    
    I'd be interested in the Bruins game too except my youngest brother is
    getting married that day and I'm in the ^*&^%&*$# wedding.  I have so
    many good possibilities that day that I'm passing up - Holy Cross at
    UMass in college football, a 1-day trip to Yankee Stadium to see the
    Sox and Yanks - that I'm at least thankful it's not the day of a
    Patriots home game (we're in Pittsburgh on Sunday).  The wedding is at
    530 so I can at least go see Brockton at St Johns (D) in high school
    football earlier that day.  I may have to show up in my tux at the game
    though since the game is at 3 (or so I've been told).
    
    The interesting thing about this wedding is that my brother is marrying
    my sister-in-law's youngest sister.  My next-to-youngest brother got
    married 5 years ago and they (my youngest brother and his fiance') were
    paired in the wedding, and now they're getting married.  Same church,
    mostly the same guest list - they might as well rerun the VCR tape for
    background and save themselves the time and trouble.
    
    I was in the wedding 5 years ago too, which was not only the day of a
    Patriots home game but also the day of Game 5 of the ALCS between the
    Red Sox and Angels.  I spent a good part of the reception in my car
    listening to the Sox game on the radio.  No such distractions this
    time, unfortunately.
    
    I'd rather spend the day in Amherst at the UMass - Holy Cross game and
    then join y'all at the Centrum, but family duty unfortunately calls.
    
    :-(
    
    John

John....

Go to the reception.  Get absolutely and outrageously sh*tfaced.  Dance
with every woman in the place, even the old wrinkled up prune faced ones.

Sing with the band. Sing the Mony Mony song and sing ALL the lines they
sing in the bars.

Insult your brother's mother-in-law.

Drink some more.  Get some chewing tobacco and spit into a cup.  Drink
some more after that.

Insult your brother's father-in-law (pretend he went to BC)

Down two shots of Jack Daniels, chug a beer, two more shots of Jack
Daniels, then chug another beer.


Finally, get up to the mike, make a big announcement, give a demonstration
of projectile vomiting, and then MOON the entire wedding.


I guarantee you, you will never be tied down with a family committment
again 8^) 8^) 8^) 8^)


'Saw

    'Saw, I'd love to do that but then I'd think I was at a rugby party. 
    :-)
    
    Seriously, if I did that, all my aunts and uncles and my parents would
    die of heart attacks and I'd be disowned.  It would be fun, though.
    
    Let me think about it.
    
    John

    I was talking to Monty_East the other day about that preseason Bruins
    game.  We were saying how it would be great to go again - we hadn't
    been to one in a few years.  Put me down as a maybe.  I have to check
    my rugby schedule.  If it's a home game I'll probably go see the Bs. 
    Y'all can come to Stoney O'Brien's on Millbury St. in Worcester for the
    post-match rugby party before the Bs' game.

Well, it may have been small, but we thought of ourselves as Special Forces.
The party was light, fast, highly mobile, and it packed a good old-fashioned
sh_tload of firepower....

The weather at the Sawmill was Seattle-like, in honor of JD, and we didn't
let the drizzle stop us from consuming mass quantities of amber nectar.

Over beers, we solved all of DEC's problems, feeling some consternation
however that the powers that be would never listen to our solutions.
We also extensively analyzed the tendency in SPORTS to extensively 
analyze things.

We spoke of rugby as a metaphor for life, track and field as a metaphor
for life, women, men, men, women, children, DEC etc etc etc ad nauseum.

The Docker-wearing/Brie-Eating/Perrier-Sipping way of life was represented
as JD brought blue tortilla chips and salsa, and the mountain man way of
life was represented when we jumped the pasture fence, brought down 
a cow, dressed it, and threw it on the grill.

It was time for a TALC run.  Hitting Uncle Al's in Hartford, we had
a bodacious time.  Several minutes after we got there, an individual
said in my ear "Make way for a guy getting married".  I made some
room, and the chair pulled in next to me.  I looked around and there
was Kevin Dineen, Todd Krygier, Peter Sidorkewicz, and several other
Whalers.  Todd Krygier was getting married and was sitting next to me.

I spoke with Kevin Dineen, for a bit, and wished Krygier luck.  Then, JD
challanged Krygier to a lat posedown.  I was worried, because Krygier in
real life is HUGE, and I thought JD might lose the LAT KING crown.

JD and Todd stripped down.  Todd flexed, and the crowd gasped.  JD flexed,
and the strippers came running over to him as if he were a God(tm).  JD
won it, lats down.

Then, out came the headliner Ashley.  I lost some major respect for
Todd when Ashley reached down into my drink, pullled out an ice
cube, then she |CENSORED| it |CENSORED| |CENSORED| and then tried
to get Todd to eat the ice cube.  He wouldn't, and seemed totally shy.
She dropped it into his drink.   Meantime, I was totally taken with
Ashley, and her ice cube technique.

If I'd been farther into my workout program, I would have told Krygier
to be a man and take the ice cube, but he was just a tad bigger than me....


Later in her performance, Ashley gave me and JD personalized pictures.


Later still, I looked over way across the stage, and lo and behold, out
of the employee's only door, walks Kevin Farley, being led out by one
of the female employees.  My first thought was that the bouncer was larger
than Todd Krygier, and I didn't want to meet him up close and personal!
JD and I looked at each other, and it was like "I *don't* want to know...
I *DON'T* want to know!"

The evening ended back at the Sawmill.  We were rarin' to go, even though
it was 4am.  Then we sat down.  The rest, as they say, is history......

It'll be a tough party to top, but the next time we're gonna try......

'Saw

       Hey Chap and /Don. Should we add this establishment to our 'must see'
     list?
                                          Denny

First off, concerning the TALC establishment...  Sometimes Uncle Al's is
right on, sometimes it isn't.  On Saturday, it was clearly ON.....


Hawk, it was outta control.  If we'd have had more people, I'm sure the
governor would have had to declare a State of Emergency....8^)


'Saw

PS  You oughta surprise JD with some Blue Tortilla chips if he visits your
    Fern Bar.......

    
    'Saw,
    
    	Lemme guess, JD's salsa was made in......NEW YORK CITY!
    
    	That really chaps mah hide.
    
    Claybone ;^)

    JD, Ninj and Walt, are we still on for tomorrow night at the Chelmsford
    Ground Round?
    
    I cain be there circa 5:30.
    
    Mark.

    I'll be there.
    
    Ninj

Claywad...

I'm not really sure where the salsa was made.  It was good though.

JD also proved himself a man of style by bringing some Newcastle Brown Ale.
And, Kevin brought something I'd never had before, "Old Peculiar", which
I found very pleasant.

My buddy Chris (another runner, so it was Runners 3, Ruggers 1) brought
reinforcements at around 3pm, in the form of 24 BUDdies...

After the smoke cleared from the battlefield on Sunday morning, there
were but 5 BUDS left.


I'm still wondering what Kev was doing in the Employees Only area ;^)

'Saw

>> JD also proved himself a man of style by bringing some Newcastle Brown Ale.
>> And, Kevin brought something I'd never had before, "Old Peculiar", which
>> I found very pleasant.

That's "Old PeculiEr", 'Saw.  And it's expensive so it must be good ;-).

j.

>That's "Old PeculiEr", 'Saw.  And it's expensive so it must be good ;-).
    
     Obviously JD was on 'expenses'!
                                               Denny  :^)

By the time I got to drinking that, a was looking like e and e was looking
like a....

JD musta been on expenses, because he offered to buy us all memberships
at the golf club by my house....8^)

I did make sure I didn't have any iced tea in the house, however.....8^)

'Saw

RE:  Ground Round

I would love to stop by, but can't be there until around 7:00 - were any of you
planning on being there that long?

=Bob=

No.

Gay City is a state park on the site of an old abandoned mill town that's
almost 200 years old.  The reason it's called Gay City is because the
people who founded the town were named Gay.

Right behind the pasture behind my house is Tallwoods Country Club.  It's
a very nice golf course.  Fair front nine, tough back nine.  It's still
public, although I've heard it might go private....



As to who might stay long at the Ground Round, figure JD will put in 
some serious time.  He should just about be catchin' his second wind now....8^)


'Saw

    Bob, we'll likely still be there.
    
    Mark.

See you there, guys.

=Bob=

    First, tonight - I couldn't get to a terminal yesterday, so that's why
    no note.  I'll be there, probably ~5:30 or so.  Bob - I'll hang til 
    you get there.  It won't be a real late night....
    
    As for Saturday - simply awesome Dude.  When Ashley hit the stage, I
    was fully woodward, but alas, in Connecticut, the lacquer stores close
    at 9:00 pm.    Saw's 'dog', WOlfie, is really pumped, no girly-mon dog
    is he.  Farley was feeding the thang raw hamburgs.  Kev also told Saw
    he thought Wolfie would look good in a tight leather outfit - so ya
    never know!
    
    Kev was also going to be the Chefmeister on Sunday morning, but being
    Men, we simply gnawed on the remains of the cow and drank extra strong
    coffee.
    
    I axed the Wailers where Bob Marley was - no one knew, but Dineen said
    he thought that he was still unsigned, or maybe down on the farm.  
    
    The "Employees ONly" thing was too funny.  Oh yeah, luckily, Kev didn't
    have his nose kicked back into his haid  ;-)
    
    Thanks again Saw - see ya nexted time.
    
    See you guys tonighted at the Grounded Rounded...
    
    
    JD

Actually, JD, we probably should have let Kev have a go at being
the Chefmeister.  I mean, I only had 8 eggs in the house.  If he could
have done anything with them, we might have had to start calling him
the Messiahmeister.....8^)

Glad to see you sufficiently recovered.....

    Ou est le Ground Round, s'il vous plait?
    
    Marc.

    Tonight's looking bad for me due to a crisis here at work.  Too many
    people using too many apostrophes.  I'll try to make it, though.
    
    Ninj

    I made it after all.  JD made it.  Walt made it.  Lufay hurt hisself
    runnin today and couldn't make it.  Walt and I both left by 7, Walt's
    mom is in town and he went to have dinner with her.
    
    Nice to see JD and Walt.
    
    John

    Severed my ankle during a manly steeple chase run.  William Shatner and
    his Rescue 911 crew were blowing burgers and buds over all the blood
    and gore.  I refused the morphine and chose instead to pack a peench of
    Skoal.
    
    Seriously, I'm sorry I missed the festivities, but give me credit for
    letting Ninj ahead of time, unlike the Wuss-Wardle (tm).
    
    Mark (sitting at home in a cast).

Youse guys were long gone by the time I got there at 7:00.

Poor JD had to sit by hisself and have a brew or two.

Seriously, hope to catch up with you soon, and that Markie's ankle is OK.  (At 
least you hurt it doing a manly sport - running in 90 degree heat 8^)).

=Bob=

Whoa....

"Severed" yer ankle.  Too cool.  Did they pack your foot in ice, rush you
to the hospital in a helicopter, and attach the foot there?  Or did old
Bill Shatner do it himself at the scene:

	"Don't bother.... to pack.... the... limb in ice.... because...
	 I'll do it here and another... thing....I...was....always better....
	 than...Bones... on the show!"


Seriously, too bad about that Markie.  Drink lots of beer, as I hear it
is great for healing bones....


I'm sure JD had NO problem drinking a couple of beers alone.  I also hear
beer is great for Lats....

JD, did you show off Ashley?????


'Saw

Lufay seriously injured in Ankle grabbing incident at Digital Equip corp. 

It ain't true....

The headline should read:


	Lufay Seriously Injured in ANKLE BITING Incident When
		Tony Easyon Visits Digital



hth,
'Saw

Trying DECwindows notes sucks, by the way...

Good to see John and JD.  Mom says hi...

Stopped by the GB last week.  Marina was there... some
things just don't change...

Went to Montreal for the weekend.  I recommend Chez Paree.
Very nice place... especially at the front row of the
stage.  No tipping, just special dances and Canadian
beer....

Can't go to the Flyers game (told you I'm playing catch
up)... 

    I'm Baacck!
    
    Firsted off, 'Saw, YOU are a wunnerful host!  From what little I
    remember, we(I) had a great time!
    
    The trip down and back was certainly a pleasant suprise.  I thought
    I'd be travellin haffway 'round the world.  It only took about 40
    minutes once I got on I-84 and I was suprised to see the UConn
    exit just before Frankwa's.  That certainly makes food for thought
    to see LOUIEEEE and the boys play the Huskies during the BE season
    since it's almost equidistant from my starting point to Providence
    or to UConn.  
    
    MikeC & 'Saw whattya think about a possible get-together sometime duing
    the BBall season & maybe get to see a game?
    
    
    
    JD, t'was really nice that you brought some authentic Seattle type
    weather to Hebron.  ;^)  After all, it was the weather that permitted
    some really serious thirst quenching and male bonding type activity
    instead of hoops (the former being much more fun).
    
    Folks, those nasty personal attacks on my "honorable" character
    regarding my (ahem) hasty exit from the "Employees Only" area (read
    "dressing room") is only part of the story. Ya see, JD and 'saw
    only observed my exit - they didn't see my entrance nor did they know
    how l-o-n-g I was dere!  I promised Ashley not to divulge any
    "apparent" activity while there.
    
    I am a man o my word so....
    
    
    
    suffice it to say, "Eat yer heart out!"
    
    
    
    ;^)
    
    
    I'd love to mention things like:
    
    the sawmill's electronic toys
    'Saw's culinary talents
    what WAS a well stocked 'fridge, ice chest & munchy cabinets
    the sheep in wolf's clothes ;^)
    and 'Saw's HUGE rawhide chew-bone (18+") when raw meat just don't cut
    it.
    
    but I'm in catch up mode - mebbe later I'll do so.
    
    
    I had a great time and am looking forward to the nexted time.  
    
    Kev
    

A UCONN game is certainly a possibility (we'd have to include Jimbo McKay,
the ULTIMATE UCONN fan).

I'm not sure, but I think that tix for the Gampel Pavillion are hard to come
by.  If it's at  all possible we should do it, since I can be at 
the Campus in 15-20 minutes by backroads.


That weekend still have epic proportions in my memory, or perhaps it
was just Ashley 8^)


latered dudes,
'Saw

If you guys don't mind doing a SUNDAY at the Sawmill, we could have
a Memorial Service for the Manis at the Sawmill sometime in September.

We could probably watch a couple of games on TV, and if I can get my
old body locomoting after a typical fall Saturday, then we could play
some touch too....


Let me know what you all think,

'Saw

      /Don, Chap and me already have our Pats-Gimps tickets. I'm sure Kwak
    wouldn't mind handling arrangements for others. ;^). No big deal
    organizing a Pats manis. Just get tickets and look for Dinz out in the
    road flagging down cars. He'll show you where to park.
                                      Denny

Hawk --

Well, no "organized" Manis seems to be taking place.

Our rugby season officially starts on Aug 24 in Monmouth, but I'm sure
there'll be at least one pre-season intersquad scrimmage before that.


I'll probably plan a Sunday "football" THANG at the Sawmill early on
in the football season....

'Saw

I guess we can BLAM the Giants front office who decided to put the
preseason into the Season ticket holders package....

But, keep a Sunday free during September.  We can do a Sawmill THANG, 
and as Kev will tell you, it's OUTRAGEOUS!

'Saw

    Ok I'll tell ya
    
    
    
    it's truely OUTRAGEOUS!!!
    
    ;^)
    

    I know this is kind of late but I just found out I'm free for lunch. 
    I'm in MKO right now as we speak.  Is anyone out there at MKO or
    remotely close?
    
    	--dan'l

    Did anyone get tix for Pats-Giants... Can I still get a ticket?
    

    Bucky B said he somehow missed out on a ticket to Tigermania so if 
    you got an extra give him a call...

    He should have called the Ninj... he tried to reach him....

    Hey, I'd be up for Pats-Giants...
    
    I also missed out on Tigermania, and would be interested in an extra...
    
    Basically, I'm "newly single", so anytime you guys get together over
    brews and sports, let me know and count me in!! ;-)
    
    ML

ML --

In case you didn't know it, pheo shit slep, deen to wonk, and all that
ca-ca, the Sawmill is always open.

JD, Kev, and Hawk are all veterans of Sawmill exploits, in fact, Hawk's
and my list of Muslim Name Translations, scrupulously worked on over
many beers in the Sawmill, will soon be published.

So, just watch this topic for any Sawmill announcements (especially
once football season starts) and you'll be golden.


Even though I live in Ct it's only a little over an hour to my house
from Worcester, and I can be in Boston in 1:45, so that should give you
an idea....


later dude,
'Saw

    Hey guys - I will definitely try to stop in here more often to check
    for activities...   you guys make it tough to be a casual reader,
    tho...  (But, seeing I showed up late this AM, I figured I at least had
    to leave late...  maybe I should write a memo now ;-)
    
    Lata,
    
    ML

    'Saw,
    
    Now that I've FINALLY met ya, consider it a_OPEN invitation to
    use my pad as a 1/2 way point whenever UR in the area.
    
    real close D_T_D is 70 miles ('cause I'm only ~5 miles east o'
    MikeC's place) 'sept I have more room and a DOG!!!!!
    
    Wanna consider Hawks "maybee we should go to the Jints-game" now
    that free room & bored is in the pot?
    
    Kev_who also_offers it to ANYBODY else (and I HATE the DAMN Underscore
    thingie!!!)
    

    Hawk,
    
    'r'fresh my memory OK?
    
    'Bout how much "doh-ray-me" (aka $$$) might be needed?
    
    When's  da  game?
    
    When d'ya need the doh-ray-me?
    
    ASN ( as a side note )
    
    is it worth THAT much JUST to meet ya?  I got away with $7.00/gas and
    $10.90/ol Peculiar and ~$2.00/ice-to-keep-it-cool to meet 'Saw?
    (Alreddy met JD)
    
    What Ashley charged is between her & me  <wink>
    
    Kev
    

Here's the way *I* see it:

	Hawk is always saying "I wanna party with you" to various people.

	Well, MHO is that the person we should all be partying with is 
	Hawkster.  This man IS a party.

	I'm still out on the Jints game for the 24th.  I'll be in Joisey...


later,
'Saw

       Tickets are $28 sideline and $18 endzone, a bargain at half the
    price!
       We'll have to figure out a place to mmet so we cain all park
    together. It could get confusing trying to end up in the same lot if
    we don't.
                                   Denny

    Hawk, why buy tickets to the game?  You're not going to watch it and
    even if you did, you'll probably be leaving in the 2nd quarter to go to
    another party. ;^)

       ....remember, anyone attending Gints-Pats manis will be obligated to
    accompany /Don, Chap and myself to The Foxy Lady (TALC) in Providence,
    after (or maybe during) the game.
                                              Denny

    	Hey Walt, if you ain't going I ain't wearing that damned Dennis
    (Ears) Rodman shirt!
    
    				/Don

    Thanks Slasher, you just jogged my memory of what Rodman reminds me of.
    
    Mark.

    Ha ha ha, a wingnut!  
    
    Great one, Markie.  :*)
    
    lEe

    Hey Slasher,
    
    If Szambo gets me a ticket, I'm goin' ok?

NOTE:  This is *NOT* strictly a ::SPORTS Get Together!
    
	Due to popular demand and some serious chopbusting from our
friend Deb, the Cathmeister and I (who, BTW, are roommates) have set
aside August 17th, Saturday as the evening of the official, 'Better
catch us before hockey season starts' party!

	Seeing as this is going to be a party of epic proportions, we
ask that you kindly RSVP either yea or nay by Wednesday, August 14th.
The 'yeas' will be provided with beer, munchies & directions.  The
'nays' will be provided with tales of fun that they've missed, all
juicy gossip and a complimentary tape of "lost" Love Boat episodes
for the next Saturday night they want to stay in. :-)  Spouses,
significant others, and guests are also welcome...please let us
know if you will be bringing anyone with you.

	Just a couple of F.Y.I.'s - if you don't drink beer you'll have
to bring your own.  There are two (2) cats...if you're allergic you're
in trouble!  

	No theme, here, folks; just some good, clean fun.  Ties are not
required.  Underwear, however, is! (Don't ask who's checking!)  ;-)

	Please let either Joann (WMOIS::BARROWSJ) or Cathy (ICS::FINUCANE)
know!  Hope to see ya there!

Well, I *was* gonna go, but if I gotta wear *UNDERWEAR*.....

       Hey Hawk, I'm surprised you made it past "the yeas will be provided
    with beer". You must be reading too fast.
                                      Denny  ;^)

    Saturday night, August 17, Gail and I will be in the second half of the
    LT100, making our way across Mt. Elbert and Sugarloaf Mountain by
    flashlight.  Perhaps those of you at the party could take a moment to
    offer some cosmic assistance through your alcohol muddled minds.  I'll
    attempt to pick it up through my beta-endorphin muddled mind.
    
    Sid (who hasn't worn underwear since 1968; so there)

    Anybody going to the Worcester 7-A-Side Tournament on Saturday besides
    me?

Mac --

I'd love to go, but I gotta go to a pig roast.

One of the Wanderers is throwing a small party (~200 people!).  He's a 
flanker, which Rachael would tell you ensures a most bodacious time...

It's our last big thang before practice starts....


'Saw

       I'll be at the Foxboro 11-a side bloodbath on Sat. Prob'ly in the
    rain too!
                                        Denny

Sid:

	Let me give you two Vince Lombardi quotes that will help you:

		"The Glory is not in never falling, but in
			rising everytime you fall"

		"If you strive for perfection, you will not achieve
			it, but you will achieve excellence"


Finally, remember this:

	It is only through pain that you grow.


Additionally:

	Be excellent to each other

AND 

	Party on, dude........



'Saw

    The forecast calls for rain on Saturday.  The tournament will go on,
    but it probably won't be much fun for spectators.

>    The forecast calls for rain on Saturday.  


God loves the infantry (and ruggers)

So what city is this shindig in anyway?  If it's close enough, I suppose I
could always borrow some underwear.  The wife won't mind.

j.

Cubby Bear parties in thong, film @ 11

    Cubby Bear in a thong?
    
    Count me out.
    
    Mark.

    
    The pahty is in beautiful, swingin' Clinton, MA. 
    
    Jo, did we figger out who the lucky gal is that gets to *check* to see
    if these folks are wearing underwear.  Eeeeuuuu.  That could be
    heinous!!  Especially knowing some of my friends!!
    
    
    C-meister

    C-meister... Since I did help Joann and you move there I won't say a word....
    And I won't say anything about Dave's and my favorite phrase... :-}
    
    REK
    
    
    GAWD, this is going to kill me..........

    Darn.  I'll be up in Merrimack, NH all next week but I'm leaving
    Friday.  Cath, if you want to meet somewhere for an honorary underwear
    checking just let me know.  I promise I won't wear the leopard print
    playboy pee-pee pouch on that day. 8-)
    
    	--dan'l
    
    

    Hey, just because I buy my underwear in a tube you don't have to laugh
    at me!!!!!!!!!!1111
    
    REK
    
    PS We don't have to bother checking your underwear..we all know you buy
    yours from L.L. Bean!!! ,For those lonely nights at hoem in the winter
    by yourself!!!!!

    But from what I hear you use the tube and not the underwear!!!
    
    Jo
    ;-)

    Naw, the tubes are too small......
    
    REK
    
    
    Joann, the ice queen.... It does have a nice ring to it......

    Now REK, why do you think I like hockey??
    
    
    Its twice as nice on the ice!  :-)

    As long as you are not the one on the bottom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    REK